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1/5/2011  2:44 PM
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If that doesn't put MDA's credibility in an envelope and stamps it, mails it to all of the coach's detractors, and they open it and read it and accept it as truth, then they are part of the blind, permanently unable to see.

A ringing endorsement of the entire Knicks team, players and coaches alike, from a living coaching legend, leader of the best team in the league, is no small matter. It is one of the highest compliments the current Knicks leadership has gotten since Donnie came to power.

The players have so adeptly put MDA's plans into practice that much props goes out to them, may they all some way be blessed with the NBA's awards and honors at season's end. And may Coach Mike receive the recognition he deserves for being the ideological leader of a resurgent Knicks team that's now only at the beginning of a potentially meteoric ascent to the elite echelon of the greatest basketball league in the solar system.


Meteors never ascend. They fall, crash and burn. Just sayin.

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1/5/2011  2:44 PM
Panos wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:

If that doesn't put MDA's credibility in an envelope and stamps it, mails it to all of the coach's detractors, and they open it and read it and accept it as truth, then they are part of the blind, permanently unable to see.

A ringing endorsement of the entire Knicks team, players and coaches alike, from a living coaching legend, leader of the best team in the league, is no small matter. It is one of the highest compliments the current Knicks leadership has gotten since Donnie came to power.

The players have so adeptly put MDA's plans into practice that much props goes out to them, may they all some way be blessed with the NBA's awards and honors at season's end. And may Coach Mike receive the recognition he deserves for being the ideological leader of a resurgent Knicks team that's now only at the beginning of a potentially meteoric ascent to the elite echelon of the greatest basketball league in the solar system.


Meteors never ascend. They fall, crash and burn. Just sayin.

theres that greek passion

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1/5/2011  2:45 PM
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1/5/2011  2:45 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
Panos wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:

If that doesn't put MDA's credibility in an envelope and stamps it, mails it to all of the coach's detractors, and they open it and read it and accept it as truth, then they are part of the blind, permanently unable to see.

A ringing endorsement of the entire Knicks team, players and coaches alike, from a living coaching legend, leader of the best team in the league, is no small matter. It is one of the highest compliments the current Knicks leadership has gotten since Donnie came to power.

The players have so adeptly put MDA's plans into practice that much props goes out to them, may they all some way be blessed with the NBA's awards and honors at season's end. And may Coach Mike receive the recognition he deserves for being the ideological leader of a resurgent Knicks team that's now only at the beginning of a potentially meteoric ascent to the elite echelon of the greatest basketball league in the solar system.


Meteors never ascend. They fall, crash and burn. Just sayin.

theres that greek passion


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1/5/2011  2:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/5/2011  2:48 PM
Panos wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:

If that doesn't put MDA's credibility in an envelope and stamps it, mails it to all of the coach's detractors, and they open it and read it and accept it as truth, then they are part of the blind, permanently unable to see.

A ringing endorsement of the entire Knicks team, players and coaches alike, from a living coaching legend, leader of the best team in the league, is no small matter. It is one of the highest compliments the current Knicks leadership has gotten since Donnie came to power.

The players have so adeptly put MDA's plans into practice that much props goes out to them, may they all some way be blessed with the NBA's awards and honors at season's end. And may Coach Mike receive the recognition he deserves for being the ideological leader of a resurgent Knicks team that's now only at the beginning of a potentially meteoric ascent to the elite echelon of the greatest basketball league in the solar system.


Meteors never ascend. They fall, crash and burn. Just sayin.

They're also fast. I used meteoric here in a translational sense, not positional. Translation denoting movement, ascent qualifying this movement. A positional usage would require defining two separate points, one high and one low or one left one right. i.e. to fall from grace like a meteor.

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1/5/2011  2:45 PM
Panos wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
Panos wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:

If that doesn't put MDA's credibility in an envelope and stamps it, mails it to all of the coach's detractors, and they open it and read it and accept it as truth, then they are part of the blind, permanently unable to see.

A ringing endorsement of the entire Knicks team, players and coaches alike, from a living coaching legend, leader of the best team in the league, is no small matter. It is one of the highest compliments the current Knicks leadership has gotten since Donnie came to power.

The players have so adeptly put MDA's plans into practice that much props goes out to them, may they all some way be blessed with the NBA's awards and honors at season's end. And may Coach Mike receive the recognition he deserves for being the ideological leader of a resurgent Knicks team that's now only at the beginning of a potentially meteoric ascent to the elite echelon of the greatest basketball league in the solar system.


Meteors never ascend. They fall, crash and burn. Just sayin.

theres that greek passion


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1/5/2011  2:46 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
Panos wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
Panos wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:

If that doesn't put MDA's credibility in an envelope and stamps it, mails it to all of the coach's detractors, and they open it and read it and accept it as truth, then they are part of the blind, permanently unable to see.

A ringing endorsement of the entire Knicks team, players and coaches alike, from a living coaching legend, leader of the best team in the league, is no small matter. It is one of the highest compliments the current Knicks leadership has gotten since Donnie came to power.

The players have so adeptly put MDA's plans into practice that much props goes out to them, may they all some way be blessed with the NBA's awards and honors at season's end. And may Coach Mike receive the recognition he deserves for being the ideological leader of a resurgent Knicks team that's now only at the beginning of a potentially meteoric ascent to the elite echelon of the greatest basketball league in the solar system.


Meteors never ascend. They fall, crash and burn. Just sayin.

theres that greek passion


Missed me?

like i miss trueblue bro


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1/5/2011  2:47 PM
Panos wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:

If that doesn't put MDA's credibility in an envelope and stamps it, mails it to all of the coach's detractors, and they open it and read it and accept it as truth, then they are part of the blind, permanently unable to see.

A ringing endorsement of the entire Knicks team, players and coaches alike, from a living coaching legend, leader of the best team in the league, is no small matter. It is one of the highest compliments the current Knicks leadership has gotten since Donnie came to power.

The players have so adeptly put MDA's plans into practice that much props goes out to them, may they all some way be blessed with the NBA's awards and honors at season's end. And may Coach Mike receive the recognition he deserves for being the ideological leader of a resurgent Knicks team that's now only at the beginning of a potentially meteoric ascent to the elite echelon of the greatest basketball league in the solar system.


Meteors never ascend. They fall, crash and burn. Just sayin.

Just so you know, they usually are referring to the SPEED of a meteor and not that they are in truth usually crashing to the Earth. So to say it's a Metroric Rise is to say that it's a very fast rise to the top.

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1/5/2011  2:49 PM
nixluva wrote:
Panos wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:

If that doesn't put MDA's credibility in an envelope and stamps it, mails it to all of the coach's detractors, and they open it and read it and accept it as truth, then they are part of the blind, permanently unable to see.

A ringing endorsement of the entire Knicks team, players and coaches alike, from a living coaching legend, leader of the best team in the league, is no small matter. It is one of the highest compliments the current Knicks leadership has gotten since Donnie came to power.

The players have so adeptly put MDA's plans into practice that much props goes out to them, may they all some way be blessed with the NBA's awards and honors at season's end. And may Coach Mike receive the recognition he deserves for being the ideological leader of a resurgent Knicks team that's now only at the beginning of a potentially meteoric ascent to the elite echelon of the greatest basketball league in the solar system.


Meteors never ascend. They fall, crash and burn. Just sayin.

Just so you know, they usually are referring to the SPEED of a meteor and not that they are in truth usually crashing to the Earth. So to say it's a Metroric Rise is to say that it's a very fast rise to the top.

Ok, you live in the land of metaphors. I'll continue to live in the land of "see a meteor, get the **** out of the way or go the way of the dinosaurs."

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1/5/2011  2:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/5/2011  2:53 PM
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it's a negative comment. Kobe Bryant is dangerous. Dwight Howard is good.

As it pertains to the Knicks, the team is good and can win games. When Pop yanked his starters, I was shocked, because no lead is big enough with the Knicks. During "Dream Week," the team beat the Nugs but it was back and forth... not a neck on the throat type of deal. Against Boston, the Knicks led the whole game only to not stop anyone down the stretch and lose. Against the Heat, the Knicks played a solid first half, only to get dominated by a team that plays the same style offensively but with better athletes and defenders. In none of those games was I ever comfortable or that the outcome was decided.

A dangerous team is one that will win even if they're down. For example, this Spurs team is dangerous. I watched the game on NBAtv and headed into the 4th quarter, even though the PSurs were down, both CWebb and McHale said they thought the Spurs would win. A dangerous team is one that just needs to stay close and go on a run to close the game out. The Knicks are just as likely to give up a 8-0 run wiht 2 minutes to go in the game as they are to get one. That's good, not dangerous

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1/5/2011  2:54 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:it's a negative comment. Kobe Bryant is dangerous. Dwight Howard is good.

As it pertains to the Knicks, the team is good and can win games. When Pop yanked his starters, I was shocked, because no lead is big enough with the Knicks. During "Dream Week," the team beat the Nugs but it was back and forth... not a neck on the throat type of deal. Against Boston, the Knicks led the whole game only to not stop anyone down the stretch and lose. Against the Heat, the Knicks played a solid first half, only to get dominated by a team that plays the same style offensively but with better athletes and defenders. In none of those games was I ever comfortable or that the outcome was decided.

A dangerous team is one that will win even if they're down. For example, this Spurs team is dangerous. I watched the game on NBAtv and headed into the 4th quarter, even though the PSurs were down, both CWebb and McHale said they thought the Spurs would win. A dangerous team is one that just needs to stay close and go on a run to close the game out. The Knicks are just as likely to give up a 8-0 run wiht 2 minutes to go in the game as they are to get one. That's good, not dangerous

That would be a plausible explanation if the true meaning wasn't clarified by MaTT4281's posting of the full quote.

"They're a very good basketball team. They're not a dangerous team, they're a GOOD team. And there's a big difference. A lot of teams, you know, they can be dangerous on a night, that sort of thing. But they're solid."

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1/5/2011  2:58 PM
Lawrence is an idiot. He made an article out of taking a sentence out of context. Just a good example of his "work".
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1/5/2011  2:58 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:it's a negative comment. Kobe Bryant is dangerous. Dwight Howard is good.

As it pertains to the Knicks, the team is good and can win games. When Pop yanked his starters, I was shocked, because no lead is big enough with the Knicks. During "Dream Week," the team beat the Nugs but it was back and forth... not a neck on the throat type of deal. Against Boston, the Knicks led the whole game only to not stop anyone down the stretch and lose. Against the Heat, the Knicks played a solid first half, only to get dominated by a team that plays the same style offensively but with better athletes and defenders. In none of those games was I ever comfortable or that the outcome was decided.

A dangerous team is one that will win even if they're down. For example, this Spurs team is dangerous. I watched the game on NBAtv and headed into the 4th quarter, even though the PSurs were down, both CWebb and McHale said they thought the Spurs would win. A dangerous team is one that just needs to stay close and go on a run to close the game out. The Knicks are just as likely to give up a 8-0 run wiht 2 minutes to go in the game as they are to get one. That's good, not dangerous

That would be a plausible explanation if the true meaning wasn't clarified by MaTT4281's posting of the full quote.

"They're a very good basketball team. They're not a dangerous team, they're a GOOD team. And there's a big difference. A lot of teams, you know, they can be dangerous on a night, that sort of thing. But they're solid."

fair enough... read the article and responded in kind. if that's what he means, okay. but seeing as how this thread is all about metaphors and sematics, I'd rather my team fit the "dangerous" label than the "good" because, to me, dangerous implies being a good team as well as certain style

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1/5/2011  2:58 PM
Good > Dangerous. Clearly it was meant as respect, not degradation.
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1/5/2011  3:01 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:it's a negative comment. Kobe Bryant is dangerous. Dwight Howard is good.

As it pertains to the Knicks, the team is good and can win games. When Pop yanked his starters, I was shocked, because no lead is big enough with the Knicks. During "Dream Week," the team beat the Nugs but it was back and forth... not a neck on the throat type of deal. Against Boston, the Knicks led the whole game only to not stop anyone down the stretch and lose. Against the Heat, the Knicks played a solid first half, only to get dominated by a team that plays the same style offensively but with better athletes and defenders. In none of those games was I ever comfortable or that the outcome was decided.

A dangerous team is one that will win even if they're down. For example, this Spurs team is dangerous. I watched the game on NBAtv and headed into the 4th quarter, even though the PSurs were down, both CWebb and McHale said they thought the Spurs would win. A dangerous team is one that just needs to stay close and go on a run to close the game out. The Knicks are just as likely to give up a 8-0 run wiht 2 minutes to go in the game as they are to get one. That's good, not dangerous

That would be a plausible explanation if the true meaning wasn't clarified by MaTT4281's posting of the full quote.

"They're a very good basketball team. They're not a dangerous team, they're a GOOD team. And there's a big difference. A lot of teams, you know, they can be dangerous on a night, that sort of thing. But they're solid."

fair enough... read the article and responded in kind. if that's what he means, okay. but seeing as how this thread is all about metaphors and sematics, I'd rather my team fit the "dangerous" label than the "good" because, to me, dangerous implies being a good team as well as certain style

That's all well and good, but how do you feel about being called a "meteoric" team?

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1/5/2011  3:01 PM
As many of you did, I watched the interview with Pop on NBATV...he clearly meant it as a compliment. This is what drives me nuts about the press sometimes...if you watched it, or listened to it, or even read the entire interview...you had to understand that Pop meant they are legit.

Now, he wasn't calling them title contenders...My take would be....Inidana is dangerous, Knicks are good, Celtics are title contender, oh, and Sacramento is bad....

Fun win wasn't it...sure is nice to be talking about this kind of stuff with he Knicks!

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1/5/2011  3:03 PM
Panos wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:it's a negative comment. Kobe Bryant is dangerous. Dwight Howard is good.

As it pertains to the Knicks, the team is good and can win games. When Pop yanked his starters, I was shocked, because no lead is big enough with the Knicks. During "Dream Week," the team beat the Nugs but it was back and forth... not a neck on the throat type of deal. Against Boston, the Knicks led the whole game only to not stop anyone down the stretch and lose. Against the Heat, the Knicks played a solid first half, only to get dominated by a team that plays the same style offensively but with better athletes and defenders. In none of those games was I ever comfortable or that the outcome was decided.

A dangerous team is one that will win even if they're down. For example, this Spurs team is dangerous. I watched the game on NBAtv and headed into the 4th quarter, even though the PSurs were down, both CWebb and McHale said they thought the Spurs would win. A dangerous team is one that just needs to stay close and go on a run to close the game out. The Knicks are just as likely to give up a 8-0 run wiht 2 minutes to go in the game as they are to get one. That's good, not dangerous

That would be a plausible explanation if the true meaning wasn't clarified by MaTT4281's posting of the full quote.

"They're a very good basketball team. They're not a dangerous team, they're a GOOD team. And there's a big difference. A lot of teams, you know, they can be dangerous on a night, that sort of thing. But they're solid."

fair enough... read the article and responded in kind. if that's what he means, okay. but seeing as how this thread is all about metaphors and sematics, I'd rather my team fit the "dangerous" label than the "good" because, to me, dangerous implies being a good team as well as certain style

That's all well and good, but how do you feel about being called a "meteoric" team?

I would say that the team's star player brought a gun to practice to threaten a teammate, or choked a coach, or something else that would make me run like hell

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1/5/2011  3:04 PM
Panos wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:it's a negative comment. Kobe Bryant is dangerous. Dwight Howard is good.

As it pertains to the Knicks, the team is good and can win games. When Pop yanked his starters, I was shocked, because no lead is big enough with the Knicks. During "Dream Week," the team beat the Nugs but it was back and forth... not a neck on the throat type of deal. Against Boston, the Knicks led the whole game only to not stop anyone down the stretch and lose. Against the Heat, the Knicks played a solid first half, only to get dominated by a team that plays the same style offensively but with better athletes and defenders. In none of those games was I ever comfortable or that the outcome was decided.

A dangerous team is one that will win even if they're down. For example, this Spurs team is dangerous. I watched the game on NBAtv and headed into the 4th quarter, even though the PSurs were down, both CWebb and McHale said they thought the Spurs would win. A dangerous team is one that just needs to stay close and go on a run to close the game out. The Knicks are just as likely to give up a 8-0 run wiht 2 minutes to go in the game as they are to get one. That's good, not dangerous

That would be a plausible explanation if the true meaning wasn't clarified by MaTT4281's posting of the full quote.

"They're a very good basketball team. They're not a dangerous team, they're a GOOD team. And there's a big difference. A lot of teams, you know, they can be dangerous on a night, that sort of thing. But they're solid."

fair enough... read the article and responded in kind. if that's what he means, okay. but seeing as how this thread is all about metaphors and sematics, I'd rather my team fit the "dangerous" label than the "good" because, to me, dangerous implies being a good team as well as certain style

That's all well and good, but how do you feel about being called a "meteoric" team?

No one said they're a meteoric team, but that their rise will be meteoric, as in fast, because that's what it's been so far. They came out of nowhere this year to win 10 out of 11 and are now one of the top teams in the league.

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1/5/2011  3:31 PM
Redcru wrote:As many of you did, I watched the interview with Pop on NBATV...he clearly meant it as a compliment. This is what drives me nuts about the press sometimes...if you watched it, or listened to it, or even read the entire interview...you had to understand that Pop meant they are legit.

Now, he wasn't calling them title contenders...My take would be....Inidana is dangerous, Knicks are good, Celtics are title contender, oh, and Sacramento is bad....

Fun win wasn't it...sure is nice to be talking about this kind of stuff with he Knicks!

Dangerous team menas the fans risk to have a heart attack every game as the team can go from good to bad in 2 minutes. This want we was for along while.
Good team plays hard and smart from the begginning to the end of the game. They can be outplayed by superior tallent and experience but always do all they can to win.
I think this is the highest compliment team can get from one of the most respected bbal minds. Makes me proud to be a Knicks fan.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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The 'dangerous team' quote, how did you interpret it?

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