that said, u can't be serious to wanna trade Gallo in a salary dump... he's way too valuable... if u can't get back at least a lottery pick or an upgrade in talent, then why do it?

TheGame wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:

Andrew wrote:Why not just trade AR instead?

Yes...please. Save us all...AR for Rubio is awesome IMHO

Now an AR for Rubio trade would be good, as we still don't have a competent backup PG and Rubio can play the 1 or 2.

I say AR and Bill Walker plus cash for Mayo......... But would do AR for Rubio in a NY Hot Second!!

Juice wrote:

TMS wrote:i love both Wilson & Gallo, but right now i think you'd be blind to say Wilson wasn't the better player... i think i've been consistent w/that for the past couple years... this has nothing to do with Gallo hate or Wilson love, i just feel Wilson is the more consistent player... just my $.02.

that said, u can't be serious to wanna trade Gallo in a salary dump... he's way too valuable... if u can't get back at least a lottery pick or an upgrade in talent, then why do it?

#2 option=LONG SEASON.....lol lol lol lol lol

I'm just kidding because Felton is getting his ball on but you see why I raised an eyebrow to those that thought Chandler didn't belong as a legit top threat on this team where it could equal success?

Gallo supporters are getting a little feisty though. That's okay because they had their day in the sun last year when Gallo was busting the Nuggets getting propped up by Billups and Melo.....and those games didn't have near the importance as these games this year have. Chandler was under the knife too, no one cared and were wanting him to be traded over the summer. Time to fall back and take this 2week ride like a man is all I have to say.

personally i think it's way premature to pronounce Wilson as a legit #2 option... role players have great games at times too... Kelenna Azabuike scored 31 in a game last year... it's consistency that sets the star players apart from the rest... obviously i think Wilson is better than Azabuike but i don't put him on the level of Melo or Durant just yet until he starts to put up these kinds of games on a regular basis... a game like tonight is no big deal to see out of the real star players even though it's much harder to do when you're expected to put up that kind of performance every night where teams are keying in on trying to stop that from happening.

i think Wilson is easily our best young player right now, but he's not an untouchable... if we miss out on Melo & end up keeping Wilson, that would be fine by me, but unless he becomes a more featured part of this offense on a regular basis he won't be able to ascend to star status, & neither will Gallo.

Juice wrote:

TMS wrote:

Juice wrote:

TMS wrote:i love both Wilson & Gallo, but right now i think you'd be blind to say Wilson wasn't the better player... i think i've been consistent w/that for the past couple years... this has nothing to do with Gallo hate or Wilson love, i just feel Wilson is the more consistent player... just my $.02.

that said, u can't be serious to wanna trade Gallo in a salary dump... he's way too valuable... if u can't get back at least a lottery pick or an upgrade in talent, then why do it?

#2 option=LONG SEASON.....lol lol lol lol lol

I'm just kidding because Felton is getting his ball on but you see why I raised an eyebrow to those that thought Chandler didn't belong as a legit top threat on this team where it could equal success?

Gallo supporters are getting a little feisty though. That's okay because they had their day in the sun last year when Gallo was busting the Nuggets getting propped up by Billups and Melo.....and those games didn't have near the importance as these games this year have. Chandler was under the knife too, no one cared and were wanting him to be traded over the summer. Time to fall back and take this 2week ride like a man is all I have to say.

personally i think it's way premature to pronounce Wilson as a legit #2 option... role players have great games at times too... Kelenna Azabuike scored 31 in a game last year... it's consistency that sets the star players apart from the rest... obviously i think Wilson is better than Azabuike but i don't put him on the level of Melo or Durant just yet until he starts to put up these kinds of games on a regular basis... a game like tonight is no big deal to see out of the real star players even though it's much harder to do when you're expected to put up that kind of performance every night where teams are keying in on trying to stop that from happening.

i think Wilson is easily our best young player right now, but he's not an untouchable... if we miss out on Melo & end up keeping Wilson, that would be fine by me, but unless he becomes a more featured part of this offense on a regular basis he won't be able to ascend to star status, & neither will Gallo.

Well although he had an off game against the Pacers he did put up almost 30pts on Orlando another good team Friday. Someone said he was sick against the Pacers not sure if this is true or not. Melo and Durant are clear #1 options not sure why they're getting mentioned at the moment. Felton and Chandler attempt almost the same amount of FGA/gm 14.5 so slight edge to Felts as he averages about .4pt/gm better(maybe not after tonight who knows) but if we checked their numbers as starters Chandler is a becoming a near #2 option. He's like 20ppg as a starter(with great percentages). I think he started permanently on the road against Charlotte and his numbers have only gone up since...... so if you're wanting a greater stretch of games there you go. It's about 19gms 10 of them he's scored 20 or more and 12 of them his season average. Last 6gms 20+pts 4 times. There's no anointing going on here I stand by what I said it was never preposterous to think he can be a #2 option and we can win. We're too caught up in thinking certain players are only so good. Who would have thought he and Shawne Williams would elevate themselves into the better 3pt shooters on the team, which btw Chandler has made almost 2 3s every game(except 2) since the beginning of December more evidence of consistency which this is something he doesn't have a problem with.

ur right, i shouldn't bring Melo or KD into this discussion... in terms of Chandler's ability to be a consistent #2 option though, again i think Gallo's presence here sorta limits his upside, & vice versa... i have no problem w/MDA riding the hot hand on any given night between the 2 of them, but you ideally would want a guy who can bring it every night & put up that 20+ to take some of the pressure off Amare's shoulders... Wilson is certainly capable of doing it but dunno if he's reached that level just yet.

If Chandler is playing this well and can sustain this level of play, why do we need Carmelo at all? Keep Chandler, Keep Gallo and add pieces.

kingofelpaso wrote:I think the better question is this:

If Chandler is playing this well and can sustain this level of play, why do we need Carmelo at all? Keep Chandler, Keep Gallo and add pieces.

Don't need no superstar center.

Thats what we saw last nite.

The MDA vision was to have Wil come off the bench and get starters minutes. We set the tempo early and dared Spurs to keep up.

They did for most of the game.

Spurs have that Gaudy record (in the west no less!) by playing a very uptempo game now. Very MDA.

They have nice pieces with depth and thats why it works. The collective is bigger than the pieces. It does not need "Stars" to work.

We lack their depth but we looked good last nite!

I say any inclusion of melo is done with patience. Donnie will set his budget and stick to it.

Unfortunately Wilson will be the price we pay either by trade, sign and trade or renounce to fit a max deal in and keep some depth.

I like wilson much better than RJ but I remember RJ early in his career looked as good if not better.

Remember, when guys are improving you see flashes but its not consistent. Then you start to see it more frequently. Fans get frustrated but it takes time. We are seeing it with Gallo and Wilson. Gallo is taking less shots but a higher %. Wilson is a higher volume shooter. Can't judge their trade value cuz MDA ball gets you lots of shots.

Knixkik wrote:

kingofelpaso wrote:I think the better question is this:

If Chandler is playing this well and can sustain this level of play, why do we need Carmelo at all? Keep Chandler, Keep Gallo and add pieces.

You can't look at a win like this and say we don't need Melo. Doing it in a 7 game series in the playoffs is completely different and you need a closer like Melo. Comparing Chandler to Melo is like comparing Lee to Stoudemire. There are nights when he can put up comparable numbers, but he is not the same caliber of player that teams must adjust their defenses to. Hopefully we don't have to choose and we can have both, but Melo makes us a much better team then Chandler ever could.

iSergio wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:It did NOT prove we don't need Gallinari. Please. Gthot (get the heck out of town) with that ish.

Yes it did. Danilo Gallinari provides nothing and adds nothing that we cannot replace.

iSergio wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:It did NOT prove we don't need Gallinari. Please. Gthot (get the heck out of town) with that ish.

Yes it did. Danilo Gallinari provides nothing and adds nothing that we cannot replace.

Papabear Says

Gallo is Mike D's Favorite and Gallo's father and Mike D are best friends. Mike D will want Chandler gone and Carmelo here before he would want Gallo traded. That's a fact. Walsh may have a different opinion but Mike D is the coach.

iSergio wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:It did NOT prove we don't need Gallinari. Please. Gthot (get the heck out of town) with that ish.

Yes it did. Danilo Gallinari provides nothing and adds nothing that we cannot replace.

Oh my goodness. This has to be something personal with you and Gallo. To say he does not add anything is just dumb and I don't think you are dumb.