martin wrote:

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martin wrote:

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martin wrote:I think MDA gave Mason more than enough chances to show himself over the course of the preseason and season. What was the circumstance, did Mason blurt out that he deserves more playing time without provocation? Then HELL YES I think it was the right answer.

Mason has been given 2 games of double digit minutes this season, & 1 of them was in garbage time of a blowout loss... do u really consider that as enough of a chance to show himself?

he played enough during preseason and he pretty much stunk it up during the first 3 games of the season. This is a vet guy not some unknown rookie. He was brought in for shooting and that's the one thing he can't do.

How much time should we waste on him? Especially when you have Fields who is hot hot hot and TD who needs minutes.

like i said i could care less that he hasn't been given minutes... but nothing in his comments were objectionable... i don't see any reason for a snitty response to a reporter's question... this has been MDA's MO with players he doesn't play since he's been here... he gets highly defensive & obnoxious with his replies whenever someone questions his decisions about his rotation & really there's no need for it... i don't care how much of a joker or an ass he is, as a head coach you should be setting the example for acting like a professional... i think Mason has handled himself like a pro since he's been here, don't see any reason to publically diss him in this fashion... if MDA doesn't think this guy can contribute then release him already so he can join up with another team... he's wasting space on our roster that could be better used on a young guy that might actually find some playing time at some point this year.

what if he was just asking Berman who he was talking about?

could be who knows? again, Berman likes to stir the pot so u never know... but do u agree that there was nothing objectionable about what Mason said or no? & do u agree that MDA has been guilty in the past of this type of stuff w/his "i only play good rookies, i don't like to play bad rookies" comment? i just don't find that kinda stuff necessary... he's just being an ass for no reason.

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:I think MDA gave Mason more than enough chances to show himself over the course of the preseason and season. What was the circumstance, did Mason blurt out that he deserves more playing time without provocation? Then HELL YES I think it was the right answer.

Mason has been given 2 games of double digit minutes this season, & 1 of them was in garbage time of a blowout loss... do u really consider that as enough of a chance to show himself?

he played enough during preseason and he pretty much stunk it up during the first 3 games of the season. This is a vet guy not some unknown rookie. He was brought in for shooting and that's the one thing he can't do.

How much time should we waste on him? Especially when you have Fields who is hot hot hot and TD who needs minutes.

like i said i could care less that he hasn't been given minutes... but nothing in his comments were objectionable... i don't see any reason for a snitty response to a reporter's question... this has been MDA's MO with players he doesn't play since he's been here... he gets highly defensive & obnoxious with his replies whenever someone questions his decisions about his rotation & really there's no need for it... i don't care how much of a joker or an ass he is, as a head coach you should be setting the example for acting like a professional... i think Mason has handled himself like a pro since he's been here, don't see any reason to publically diss him in this fashion... if MDA doesn't think this guy can contribute then release him already so he can join up with another team... he's wasting space on our roster that could be better used on a young guy that might actually find some playing time at some point this year.

what if he was just asking Berman who he was talking about?

This is his way to motivate players. Especially veterans.
If player will take it personally and start working to get respect back it's a good player but if player will start crying... it's also good to know...

martin wrote:If I were Berman, I would have asked Mason why he is owed another chance. I would have asked him: "given that you can't make a shot, why are you OWED another chance".

This is about context.... why didn't Mason just say: "I am staying ready and when my next chance comes, I am going to show MDA that I should get minutes." He should have stopped right there. To say that he hasn't been given an opportunity yet? I don't think that's true.

i dunno how u took those comments but i didn't take anything about Mason feeling he was OWED playing time... here are his exact comments aside from Berman's own interpretations:

"Things have been a little different than I imagined, yes,"
"I'll continue to work and be a good teammate and cheer them on and wait for an opportunity. I haven't really had one yet."
"I don't think I was really given an opportunity yet,"
"In preseason, I didn't shoot as well as I wanted to. Most preseasons, it takes me to the regular season to get going.
"I'm just hitting the prime of my career,"
"Ideally, you wouldn't want to be in scenario where you're not playing."

right there he's acknowledging the fact that he hasn't performed to the level he would have liked during the preseason & just trying to explain that it usually takes him til the regular season to get going in his game... also said he's gonna continue to work hard & be a good teammate & wait for an opportunity... i don't see anywhere that he said he felt he was owed minutes anywhere in those comments... he said ideally he'd like to be playing & feels he hasn't really hasn't been given an opportunity yet, which he really hasn't unless u think 2 games with double digit minutes is a real opportunity... again, i don't see anything wrong w/what he said.

personally i think we should just waive this guy because he obviously didn't sign up to be a bench warmer... i think he can maybe find a better opportunity elsewhere, & he's been a pro about his situation since he's been here... we could use that roster spot for some frontcourt depth.

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martin wrote:If I were Berman, I would have asked Mason why he is owed another chance. I would have asked him: "given that you can't make a shot, why are you OWED another chance".

This is about context.... why didn't Mason just say: "I am staying ready and when my next chance comes, I am going to show MDA that I should get minutes." He should have stopped right there. To say that he hasn't been given an opportunity yet? I don't think that's true.

i dunno how u took those comments but i didn't take anything about Mason feeling he was OWED playing time... here are his exact comments aside from Berman's own interpretations:

"Things have been a little different than I imagined, yes,"
"I'll continue to work and be a good teammate and cheer them on and wait for an opportunity. I haven't really had one yet."
"I don't think I was really given an opportunity yet,"
"In preseason, I didn't shoot as well as I wanted to. Most preseasons, it takes me to the regular season to get going.
"I'm just hitting the prime of my career,"
"Ideally, you wouldn't want to be in scenario where you're not playing."

right there he's acknowledging the fact that he hasn't performed to the level he would have liked during the preseason & just trying to explain that it usually takes him til the regular season to get going in his game... also said he's gonna continue to work hard & be a good teammate & wait for an opportunity... i don't see anywhere that he said he felt he was owed minutes anywhere in those comments... he said ideally he'd like to be playing & feels he hasn't really hasn't been given an opportunity yet, which he really hasn't unless u think 2 games with double digit minutes is a real opportunity... again, i don't see anything wrong w/what he said.

personally i think we should just waive this guy because he obviously didn't sign up to be a bench warmer... i think he can maybe find a better opportunity elsewhere, & he's been a pro about his situation since he's been here... we could use that roster spot for some frontcourt depth.

i guess i did add the implicit, unspoken to this: "I don't think I was really given an opportunity yet" ... meaning, i haven't been given an opportunity, I am owed that chance (perhaps OWED is too strong). Generally, if you don't think you have been given an opportunity, you think you deserve one. Which begs the question: if you don't think you have been given an opportunity, WHY don't you think you have been given one considering your **** shooting in the minutes you HAVE been given. And, why didn't you come into camp much more prepared than you actually did. And, what are you doing to show the coach that you are ready for an opportunity. And, given that TD is injured, why do you suck so much or why haven't you played well enough in practice such that coach HAS to try you again. Like that, those are the questions I would have asked.

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:I think MDA gave Mason more than enough chances to show himself over the course of the preseason and season. What was the circumstance, did Mason blurt out that he deserves more playing time without provocation? Then HELL YES I think it was the right answer.

Mason has been given 2 games of double digit minutes this season, & 1 of them was in garbage time of a blowout loss... do u really consider that as enough of a chance to show himself?

he played enough during preseason and he pretty much stunk it up during the first 3 games of the season. This is a vet guy not some unknown rookie. He was brought in for shooting and that's the one thing he can't do.

How much time should we waste on him? Especially when you have Fields who is hot hot hot and TD who needs minutes.

The one question that no one has asked is; would you take Fields out of the line-up and replace him with Mason

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Sangfroid wrote:

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:I think MDA gave Mason more than enough chances to show himself over the course of the preseason and season. What was the circumstance, did Mason blurt out that he deserves more playing time without provocation? Then HELL YES I think it was the right answer.

Mason has been given 2 games of double digit minutes this season, & 1 of them was in garbage time of a blowout loss... do u really consider that as enough of a chance to show himself?

he played enough during preseason and he pretty much stunk it up during the first 3 games of the season. This is a vet guy not some unknown rookie. He was brought in for shooting and that's the one thing he can't do.

How much time should we waste on him? Especially when you have Fields who is hot hot hot and TD who needs minutes.

The one question that no one has asked is; would you take Fields out of the line-up and replace him with Mason

I am not sure how the coach saying something really stupid and smug ended up in debating a line up change. The bottom line is that if he said what was reported in the context it was reported he is jerk and put his foot in his mouth again. He needs to check himself before he goes into interviews or speaks with reporters about his guys.

wait, did you see the interview or did you just assume it was just stupid and smug?

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Sangfroid wrote:

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:I think MDA gave Mason more than enough chances to show himself over the course of the preseason and season. What was the circumstance, did Mason blurt out that he deserves more playing time without provocation? Then HELL YES I think it was the right answer.

Mason has been given 2 games of double digit minutes this season, & 1 of them was in garbage time of a blowout loss... do u really consider that as enough of a chance to show himself?

he played enough during preseason and he pretty much stunk it up during the first 3 games of the season. This is a vet guy not some unknown rookie. He was brought in for shooting and that's the one thing he can't do.

How much time should we waste on him? Especially when you have Fields who is hot hot hot and TD who needs minutes.

The one question that no one has asked is; would you take Fields out of the line-up and replace him with Mason

I am not sure how the coach saying something really stupid and smug ended up in debating a line up change. The bottom line is that if he said what was reported in the context it was reported he is jerk and put his foot in his mouth again. He needs to check himself before he goes into interviews or speaks with reporters about his guys.

wait, did you see the interview or did you just assume it was just stupid and smug?

The bottom line is that if he said what was reported in the context it was reported he is jerk and put his foot in his mouth again.

If he really said that he needs to censor his comments a bit. He makes guys irrelevant and then cracks on them.

I guess I need to be more blunt.
I am puzzled as to why you are defending D'Antoni in this situation. He has done this before and it can't be spun if it is being reported accurately. If you take the high road on this one I think you use words like poor judgement and mistake.

It's been a decade since we've had a winning team and we have to start threads about the coach possibly saying something about a guy that can't get off the bench! This is why I get so heated with guys around here when it comes to D'Antoni. The team has been doing well on the court, so why don't we just let that speak for itself. Who cares if he's a snarky guy or not?

Berman can't find any stink he'll manufacture some. What's the Knicks without some drama?

And I like the comment above about playing anyone that can help. Berman is needling him it appears to me and d'A fell for it.