Marv wrote:

tkf wrote:

umynot wrote:Of all those picks in that draft NO ONE HAS SCORED MORE 3's then Gallo THIS YEAR!!!

Other then Augastine NO ONE has a better FT %

Rose Westbrook Lopez Gordon and Beasley ALL avg at least twice as many TO then Gallo.

Rose is his team #1 option...... As is Lopez!!
Westbrook Gordon and Beasley are all # 2 options.

We beat all their teams this year mind you!!

Gallo at best is our 4th option on this team at least that is what his shot attempts suggest.
He has has 5th most shots on our team.... That is just a fact

Amare shoots more as does Felton Wilson and Toney D on our team.

Gallo proved last year that as 1st or second option he can avg over 20 a game......

He has not played as good as he will play and yet he still is better then anyone other then Rose and
Westbrook from that draft...

Walsh made right pick with Gallo......... Ohhh and I'm not alone in my thinking folks Gallo is also
top 11 in Jersey sales in NBA...... Ahead of everyone from that draft other then Rose!!!

other than felton and amare. no one should be touching or shooting the ball more than gallo...it is silly that TD is taking a lot of shots as well as chandler... the ball should not be in those guys hands as much unless they are in position to shoot open shots or finish at the hoop. other than that, leaving those two to make decisions with the ball is asking for trouble, they will just hoist up a shot... But hey, I like gallo's productivity even with less shots and we are winning which is most important..

I really like fields a ton and I think he can still be effective for 25-30mpg even off the bench.. Getting a guy like OJ mayo to play SG and even some backup point would make our offense even better.. may even make some forget about melo.. maybe?

wow i'm really surprised to hear you make this comment about chandler. his decisoin-making, handle and shot-making seem SO much improved this year to me and constitute a major reason for our team success. you think he's a liability with the ball in his hands????

I wouldn't say a liability, but not a playmaker either.. I think he gets tunnel vision and in this offense that is bad. I said this before. when amare get about 4-5 dimes a game. the knicks are so much better... TD has that tunnel vision at times, wilson has it most of the time. I just like when chandler gets the ball open to shoot, or when he has a clear advantage over a bigger defender...wilson is a solid player, but he doesn't go left, doesn't finish left, and doesn't see the floor, so when he decides to make his move, there are not many other options but to shoot..

Marv wrote:

tkf wrote:

umynot wrote:Of all those picks in that draft NO ONE HAS SCORED MORE 3's then Gallo THIS YEAR!!!

Other then Augastine NO ONE has a better FT %

Rose Westbrook Lopez Gordon and Beasley ALL avg at least twice as many TO then Gallo.

Rose is his team #1 option...... As is Lopez!!
Westbrook Gordon and Beasley are all # 2 options.

We beat all their teams this year mind you!!

Gallo at best is our 4th option on this team at least that is what his shot attempts suggest.
He has has 5th most shots on our team.... That is just a fact

Amare shoots more as does Felton Wilson and Toney D on our team.

Gallo proved last year that as 1st or second option he can avg over 20 a game......

He has not played as good as he will play and yet he still is better then anyone other then Rose and
Westbrook from that draft...

Walsh made right pick with Gallo......... Ohhh and I'm not alone in my thinking folks Gallo is also
top 11 in Jersey sales in NBA...... Ahead of everyone from that draft other then Rose!!!

other than felton and amare. no one should be touching or shooting the ball more than gallo...it is silly that TD is taking a lot of shots as well as chandler... the ball should not be in those guys hands as much unless they are in position to shoot open shots or finish at the hoop. other than that, leaving those two to make decisions with the ball is asking for trouble, they will just hoist up a shot... But hey, I like gallo's productivity even with less shots and we are winning which is most important..

I really like fields a ton and I think he can still be effective for 25-30mpg even off the bench.. Getting a guy like OJ mayo to play SG and even some backup point would make our offense even better.. may even make some forget about melo.. maybe?

wow i'm really surprised to hear you make this comment about chandler. his decisoin-making, handle and shot-making seem SO much improved this year to me and constitute a major reason for our team success. you think he's a liability with the ball in his hands????

I agree Wilson has earned his touches........

IMO Gallo will too soon!!

tkf wrote:

Uptown wrote:

tkf wrote:

TMS wrote:Eric Gordon is the only guy taken after Gallo i might think twice about... he's turned himself into 1 of the best young SG's in the game... out of the guys taken before Gallo i'd take Rose, Westbrook or possibly Love over Gallo, but none of them would have been available anyway.

i still remember the panic that erupted on these forums when we passed up on Jerryd Bayless... good times.

gordon is a very nice player.. But I can't take his stats or blake griffin stats too serious(but serious enough) being on such a losing team... Gordon is a good player, so is blake for that matter, but since we are talking just gordon here. Not sure I want him starting as my SG. he does take a lot of shots and I just wonder how effective of a player he would be with less shots and touches. I still like OJ mayo better as I think he has a more complete game, from his scoring, to his playmaking abilities... If mayo was with the clippers in gordon's situation, he would be putting up some sick, sick numbers...

Not sure thats a fiar statement. Gallo's first two years were on losing teams aswell. He's winning this year mainly because he's playing beside a legit MVP candidate. Gordon doesn't have that luxury.

gallo wasn't a first or second option as well. what I am saying is that gordon and griffin pretty much are running that team. taking most of the shots, getting all of the opportunities. Good numbers, but what are those numbers leading to? I think on a team that wins, they are not the first two options, but good 3rd options at this point.. so my question is, how effective is gordon then? I think griffin is a different story, since I think he can still get a lot of boards and points off dunks since he is so athletic...

but you hit the nail on the head.. gallo can produce good numbers in either situation, especially a winning one.. we don't need to question if he can be part of a starting core that wins..

And that the point.....

Gallo does not HURT us at all!!

Has least TO's of all our starters and yet we have mostly agreed he has struggled!!

Marv wrote:

tkf wrote:

Uptown wrote:

tkf wrote:

TMS wrote:Eric Gordon is the only guy taken after Gallo i might think twice about... he's turned himself into 1 of the best young SG's in the game... out of the guys taken before Gallo i'd take Rose, Westbrook or possibly Love over Gallo, but none of them would have been available anyway.

i still remember the panic that erupted on these forums when we passed up on Jerryd Bayless... good times.

gordon is a very nice player.. But I can't take his stats or blake griffin stats too serious(but serious enough) being on such a losing team... Gordon is a good player, so is blake for that matter, but since we are talking just gordon here. Not sure I want him starting as my SG. he does take a lot of shots and I just wonder how effective of a player he would be with less shots and touches. I still like OJ mayo better as I think he has a more complete game, from his scoring, to his playmaking abilities... If mayo was with the clippers in gordon's situation, he would be putting up some sick, sick numbers...

Not sure thats a fiar statement. Gallo's first two years were on losing teams aswell. He's winning this year mainly because he's playing beside a legit MVP candidate. Gordon doesn't have that luxury.

gallo wasn't a first or second option as well. what I am saying is that gordon and griffin pretty much are running that team. taking most of the shots, getting all of the opportunities. Good numbers, but what are those numbers leading to? I think on a team that wins, they are not the first two options, but good 3rd options at this point.. so my question is, how effective is gordon then? I think griffin is a different story, since I think he can still get a lot of boards and points off dunks since he is so athletic...

but you hit the nail on the head.. gallo can produce good numbers in either situation, especially a winning one.. we don't need to question if he can be part of a starting core that wins..

i'm seeing it differently. griffin and gordon would actually be the amar'e and felton on a team if they had any help. the rest of that roster is absolute garbage. gordon's giving you 5 assists a game on top of the scoring. griffin's an absolute beast in just his first few dozen games in the league. imo these 2 will carry a team - they just need a team, which they don't currently have.

griffin doesn't defend enough, and just doesn't score in enough ways to be a go to guy at this point. Not sure if you watch a lot of clipper games, but there is a reason, besides the rest of the team, that they stink... Gordon is not a PG, but he is playing well. Not sure how good of a team you will be if those two are your main two guys. stats can be decieving, I watch the clips play a lot , espeically this year... those two need to be support players at this point...

look at tyreke evans last year.. guy averaged 20/5/5 as a rookie.. team still was bad and he had some decent help... It goes beyond numbers, but how can you impact your team in other ways.... are griffin and gordon going to make their teamates better or more effective? who knows. I don't see it yet...

tkf wrote:

Marv wrote:

tkf wrote:

Uptown wrote:

tkf wrote:

TMS wrote:Eric Gordon is the only guy taken after Gallo i might think twice about... he's turned himself into 1 of the best young SG's in the game... out of the guys taken before Gallo i'd take Rose, Westbrook or possibly Love over Gallo, but none of them would have been available anyway.

i still remember the panic that erupted on these forums when we passed up on Jerryd Bayless... good times.

gordon is a very nice player.. But I can't take his stats or blake griffin stats too serious(but serious enough) being on such a losing team... Gordon is a good player, so is blake for that matter, but since we are talking just gordon here. Not sure I want him starting as my SG. he does take a lot of shots and I just wonder how effective of a player he would be with less shots and touches. I still like OJ mayo better as I think he has a more complete game, from his scoring, to his playmaking abilities... If mayo was with the clippers in gordon's situation, he would be putting up some sick, sick numbers...

Not sure thats a fiar statement. Gallo's first two years were on losing teams aswell. He's winning this year mainly because he's playing beside a legit MVP candidate. Gordon doesn't have that luxury.

gallo wasn't a first or second option as well. what I am saying is that gordon and griffin pretty much are running that team. taking most of the shots, getting all of the opportunities. Good numbers, but what are those numbers leading to? I think on a team that wins, they are not the first two options, but good 3rd options at this point.. so my question is, how effective is gordon then? I think griffin is a different story, since I think he can still get a lot of boards and points off dunks since he is so athletic...

but you hit the nail on the head.. gallo can produce good numbers in either situation, especially a winning one.. we don't need to question if he can be part of a starting core that wins..

i'm seeing it differently. griffin and gordon would actually be the amar'e and felton on a team if they had any help. the rest of that roster is absolute garbage. gordon's giving you 5 assists a game on top of the scoring. griffin's an absolute beast in just his first few dozen games in the league. imo these 2 will carry a team - they just need a team, which they don't currently have.

griffin doesn't defend enough, and just doesn't score in enough ways to be a go to guy at this point. Not sure if you watch a lot of clipper games, but there is a reason, besides the rest of the team, that they stink... Gordon is not a PG, but he is playing well. Not sure how good of a team you will be if those two are your main two guys. stats can be decieving, I watch the clips play a lot , espeically this year... those two need to be support players at this point...

look at tyreke evans last year.. guy averaged 20/5/5 as a rookie.. team still was bad and he had some decent help... It goes beyond numbers, but how can you impact your team in other ways.... are griffin and gordon going to make their teamates better or more effective? who knows. I don't see it yet...

We are way off topic but Griffen is definitely an Ideal Go-To Guy...... Karl Malone with better hops!!

Gordon is nice but def touches ball way more then Gallo not even close.... I rather have a 7 foot 3 point
threat who can pass and get to hoop and line the an undersized ball hogging SG

Ohh Clips won 4 of last 5 and look better everyday!!

He is all of 22. Lots of upside still to go.

martin wrote:tkf, if you watch LAC some, what do you think of Jordan? How are hands? Rebounding and defending?

hands= ok

Rebounding= has the potential to be very good

Defense= commits silly fouls, but will block shots and goaltend some.

has no footwork, can't give him the ball in the post, but when he gets close to the hoop can really finish.. mostly off feeds.. his dunks rival blake griffin's... for real...

I would still say he is a project, has some tools, but a long way to go..

tkf wrote:

TMS wrote:Eric Gordon is the only guy taken after Gallo i might think twice about... he's turned himself into 1 of the best young SG's in the game... out of the guys taken before Gallo i'd take Rose, Westbrook or possibly Love over Gallo, but none of them would have been available anyway.

i still remember the panic that erupted on these forums when we passed up on Jerryd Bayless... good times.

gordon is a very nice player.. But I can't take his stats or blake griffin stats too serious(but serious enough) being on such a losing team... Gordon is a good player, so is blake for that matter, but since we are talking just gordon here. Not sure I want him starting as my SG. he does take a lot of shots and I just wonder how effective of a player he would be with less shots and touches. I still like OJ mayo better as I think he has a more complete game, from his scoring, to his playmaking abilities... If mayo was with the clippers in gordon's situation, he would be putting up some sick, sick numbers...

Gordon is pretty damn explosive... to tell u the truth i never really knew much about him coming out of the draft, but he has really opened my eyes this season... IMO he can do things on the court OJ Mayo can't... dude is playing in obscurity & putting up huge numbers on a bad team but i think even if u put him on a good team he would open some eyes... i think Mayo's got a nice shooting touch, but he's sorta like James Harden in that he's smooth on the court & gets his points but he doesn't give me that "wow" factor... Mayo's got more playmaking ability i'll give u that, but Gordon has some real nastiness in his game that i love.