BRIGGS wrote:

TMS wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

TMS wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

TMS wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

TMS wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Solace wrote:

TMS wrote:i don't think anyone here wants to trade Landry Fields.

+1. I don't know why this keeps coming up. It was pretty much unanimous.

Thats excatly why we have no chance at trading for melo--but I could care less. I hope Melo goes to the Nets.

that all depends on whether Melo wants to go to NJ or not, doesn't it? if he is, then nothing we can offer will match NJ's offer, Landry Fields or no Landry Fields... but if not, then we're definitely in the running to get him in a trade w/o having to give up Landry Fields, unless u think DEN would just let him walk for nothing to spite us.

I dont want Carmelo Anthony at 25mm anyway--bad business. That would cap us out and we would lose all of our assets.

also not true... we actually gain assets in the form of the MLE & LLE to sign FA's if we trade for Melo... that's been pointed out to you many times... u make it sound as if only Felton, Melo & Amare will be left over with nothing else but minimum salary players to round out the rest of the roster... DW has already said he's not going to gut the entire team to get any 1 player so get past that already... it's not going to happen.

How do you gain assets-which one's what exactly do you think Denver wants for Carmelo--Billy walker? You are making a ghost trade with nothing going to Denver?

wow, you really can't seem to register what i'm telling u... once again for the 96000th time, DW is not going to gut our roster to trade for Melo... the only way a Melo trade gets made is if Melo forces DEN's hand & we end up getting him for an equitable package that includes keeping at least 1 or 2 of our young players... you also gain the MLE & LLE to use to sign FA's this summer.

lol--if you cant answer the question--why bother with a response?

because you're asking me a question that has zero possibility of happening... the only one on this forum who thinks we're trading Melo for all 4 of our young guys is you.

Dude who do you think we can trade Denver for Melo--either answer the question or dont. You dont want to answer the question obviously.

i've only answered that question about 50 different times on other threads... since you're obviously vision impaired here it is again... it all depends on what Melo decides to do... if he refuses a trade to NJ then we don't need to try & match NJ's offer to get Melo... somehow u keep insisting that we do... if Melo agrees to a NJ trade then we can't match a NJ offer no matter what we offer, so the discussion is moot... & once again since you have a hard time accepting it, DW has already said he won't gut the roster to trade for Melo no matter what.

if DEN is left w/no other choice but to trade him to NY or lose him for nothing in free agency, then i think a reasonable offer to make would be either Wilson or Gallo plus AR & contract filler & whatever picks we can get our hands on... i don't think we would need to include Fields... DEN will no doubt ask for both Gallo & Wilson to be included but at that point will they have much bargaining strength to make any types of demands?

holfresh wrote:There are people here who were arguing against trading Frye for Garnett when Frye was putting up good rookie numbers...

holfresh wrote:Melo is a once in a 10-15 year talent..He would give the Knicks the opportunity to compete with the Bostons, Miamis and the Lakers of the world...Our current structure doesn't help us get to the next level...Tweeking with second tier players doesn't get us there either...

holfresh wrote:...Gallo, Chandler and Fields are bench players on a Championship team

I like Melo. I'd like to see Melo a Knick. But not if it involves trading away the best young rooking the Knicks have seen in decades.

martin wrote:

technomaster wrote:How about comparing him to a poor man's Grant Hill... or a poor man's Shane Battier?

i think he's better than Battier. Different but better.

Shane Battier was never as good as Fields--not one year.

cheers wrote:i dont know who havlicek is but i would trade him for melo.

Study your history man! 13-time all-star, 8 rings, hall of fame, considered one of the top 10 or 15 players of ALL TIME. You DO NOT trade Havlicek for 'Melo, not now not anytime.

Havlicek shot 43 per cent for his career

http://www.fromthebaseline.com/video-mixes/mixes/Landry-Fields%5C%27-Putback-layup/0/156/1

Donnie Walsh replaced David Lee with a more rounded player in the second round.

And I loved David Lee.

Moonangie wrote:

Solace wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Solace wrote:

TMS wrote:i don't think anyone here wants to trade Landry Fields.

+1. I don't know why this keeps coming up. It was pretty much unanimous.

Thats excatly why we have no chance at trading for melo--but I could care less. I hope Melo goes to the Nets.

Which is fine. We should only make trades that improve the team, not destroy it. If we have to destroy the current team, then pass. Agree?

1000% agree. Keep Gallo and Fields no matter what.

Offer Chandler, AR, Turiaf, Curry's expiring, Walker or Buke, $3mil for Melo and say "Take it or Leave it Muffah". If they want us to take Nene, too, thats fine. I don't really care if we fail to get Melo, but he'd be a nice upgrade at SF. Gutting the core to do it is plain stupid and unnecessary.

Facts (as I see it):

1. Melo wants The Garden, the legacy, the scratch from Madison Ave, and the fame
2. We don't owe the Nuggets diddley
3. We want to compete for the next five years for a chip, starting next season
4. His mama din't raise no foo: Melo wants what we want, to win. He knows NYC will give him everything else. No reason for him to douche down and act like he's bigger than the game (i.e., "Witness" ad in Cleveland from LeCon).
5. If he will accept playing out the year in Denver, and tell them Knicks or I walk, they will deal for our package. Something is better than nothing.

Turiaf, Buke and Curry are expirings, AR has big upside and on a rebuilding team he gets burn. Chandler is a great player just out of his rookie deal (we might have to S&T him so they get him locked up - can we do that?).

Papabear Says

Why give up Chandler? Chandler may refuse to sign. Chandler is going to be an allstar. Gallo is not as good a Chandler. We need to stop fooling ourselves. We should not give up Fields , Gallo, or Chandler. We will need these pieces to compete for a championship.