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DrAlphaeus
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12/22/2010  12:54 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/22/2010  1:13 AM
firefly wrote:Not really sure if youre trying to suggest that Russia is in fact a part of Europe as some kind of "we are America and everywhere else is Europe. Or China. Or Puerto Rico. Whatever." kind of shtick of if youre just being wrong.

The distance between Alaska (an American state under US constitution) and Russia is 55 miles ( or actually 3 miles if your being pedantic). Between Russia and Europe, we have various contries including Belarus and Ukraine. Admittedly, they are a part of the same landmass, but to say that equates to Russia being a part of Europe is like saying Guatamala is part of the US because you share a landmass.

Double-sheesh. Hasheesh.

So awesome. "Sharing a landmass" is the bloody definition of a continent!

And you picked one of the worst analogies when you brought up "America."

I can say "Guatemala is an American state" (meaning nation-state as opposed to what we mean by "state" here in the US) and be absolutely 100%
correct.

Geographically speaking, both the USA and Guatemala are part of the same continent: North America.

America is the name of the Western Hemisphere, also known as the Americas, commonly divided up into North America & South America.

Central America is a subcontinental designation of the part of North America between Mexico and Colombia.

Latin America is a cultural (& political?) designation that can include all the predominantly Spanish- and Portuguese-speaking nations of the Americas, and technically the French-speaking parts too (Haiti, Martinique where Turiaf is from, Quebec) since French is a Romance (Latin-derived) language as well.

Some people argue that Europe and Asia are more a cultural, historical or political -- versus a geographical or geological -- definition, and that they really are just two parts (subcontinents) of a (super)continent named Eurasia.

Others say that the Ural Mountains divide the two continents much like a sea or ocean would. I'm not even going to try to get into plate tectonics.

Let me give you time to reload the bong now. Fire in the hole!

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12/22/2010  1:23 AM
P.S: And you know Alaska used to be part of Russia, right?
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12/22/2010  1:42 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/22/2010  1:43 AM
Nalod wrote:
I know some of you think of Nets as "Clippers" to our knicks.

Second rate oprhan team, no fan base even when they were winning.

Melo "would never go to that crap".

Guys, the Russian got plans. I think the Russian would over pay for Melo and is desporate to have a starphuch face for the franchise.

The Russian has plans.

NOt to be top team in NY. His sights are to be the "it" NBA team in Europe for a new generation. Not just the next three years of Amares contract, not just to win over Brooklyn, but EUROPE. And That includes RUSSIA!

Build the product. Build the Name. Get a face.

You think MSG has a big audiance? What about Moscow? what about RUSSIA!

Pro league in russia is in shambles right now. Nets could fill a huge void.

Think cable subscriptions with his political clout? Huge potential.

In ten years there will be NBA in EUrope and this guy being an NBA owner gets the Moscow franchise if he wants it. WOuld have to sell his stake in Nets, but thats another time and place. The value of nets would skyrocket.

NYC in its borders also has 500,000 russian speaking citizens. Thats like the size of Oklahoma City. That his small base to start with.

Knick fans don't have to root for them or even like them. But you should respect them. Not for the last 20 years, but for what they will do in the next 10. Respect the business model.

This dude is thinking bigger than what most knick fans are thinking. If he wants to overpay for Melo, thats his business.

Walsh should do whats good for knicks. HE should not get into a bidding war over this. Set his price for whats good for knicks then move on to next plan. If he bids up what nets do thats ok too! We only know what we read anyway.


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12/22/2010  3:50 AM
Ok, so I'm willing to concede a modicum of snobbery and silliness in my posts of last night. Taking some frustrations out on my boys - unacceptable . However, I still maintain as a national identity, both Russians and (most) European countries do not consider Russia a part of a European identity.
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12/22/2010  6:11 AM
Does Eastern Europe = Europe? That's really what this is about.
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12/22/2010  6:18 AM
You do realize that the Czar monarchy bloodlines were related with other royalty families all thru Europe?
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12/22/2010  7:20 AM
Nalod wrote:You do realize that the Czar monarchy bloodlines were related with other royalty families all thru Europe?

yes, but despite that logic, England is still not Germany.

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12/22/2010  8:26 AM
firefly wrote:
Nalod wrote:You do realize that the Czar monarchy bloodlines were related with other royalty families all thru Europe?

yes, but despite that logic, England is still not Germany.

But England was temporarily annexed by Germany during WWII.

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12/22/2010  8:45 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/22/2010  8:49 AM
I can go either way on this and have never really gotten a consensus. My Russian friend has corrected me multiple times when I referred to Russia as part of Europe, so who knows. Could it just be perception? I mean maybe in Europe, it's taught differently? Firefly is from England, right?

I recall responding to my friend by asking if Russia was part of Asia, instead. Then, he smirked and didn't answer.

Also, according to Google, the official answer is that Russia is both part of Europe and Asia. Hmmm....

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12/22/2010  9:31 AM
Solace wrote:I can go either way on this and have never really gotten a consensus. My Russian friend has corrected me multiple times when I referred to Russia as part of Europe, so who knows. Could it just be perception? I mean maybe in Europe, it's taught differently? Firefly is from England, right?

I recall responding to my friend by asking if Russia was part of Asia, instead. Then, he smirked and didn't answer.

Also, according to Google, the official answer is that Russia is both part of Europe and Asia. Hmmm....

Yeah, I think this is all about national perception. Both Russians and Europeans don't see Russia as a part of Europe, and they're not a member of the EU. They may be a part of the same landmass, but so are some Asian countries.

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12/22/2010  9:34 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/22/2010  9:35 AM
TheGame wrote:
firefly wrote:
Nalod wrote:You do realize that the Czar monarchy bloodlines were related with other royalty families all thru Europe?

yes, but despite that logic, England is still not Germany.

But England was temporarily annexed by Germany during WWII.

Never!!!! Unlike ze french, who dislocated their collective shoulders in attempting to put their hands up as quick as possible (), we fought them on the beaches, on the hills, in the streets bla bla bla. But most importantly, in the air. Remember? Never in the history of human conflict has so much been owed by so many to so few.

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12/22/2010  9:38 AM
But Knicks have Mozgov.
WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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12/22/2010  11:14 AM
I asked my Russian coworker and he said "it depends". He said for sports, Russia is European. For politics, Russia is either in Europe or Asia, depending on what suits them better at the moment. Heh.
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12/22/2010  6:20 PM
Russia is in Europe. If Russian owned Alaska still it would span 3 continents. It spans both Europe and Asia.

Moscow is in europe. St Pete is in Europe. Vladivostok is in Asia.

Technically "Russia" is in europe. The federation spans into Asia.

Czar had cousins who were monarchs in Germany, England and others. White Russians were european.
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12/22/2010  7:22 PM
Nalod wrote:Russia is in Europe. If Russian owned Alaska still it would span 3 continents. It spans both Europe and Asia.

Moscow is in europe. St Pete is in Europe. Vladivostok is in Asia.

Technically "Russia" is in europe. The federation spans into Asia.

Czar had cousins who were monarchs in Germany, England and others. White Russians were european.

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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