Assuming that the pre requisite to a deal for the team receiving Melo is that he signs a contract, Melo can chose what he wants to do. He can guarantee himself the money and go to NJ or he can take a chance and wait until he gets his wish to go to the Knicks. His people have to be telling him "yes, it's a a bit of a risk to wait for a deal to the Knicks, but it's still a very good chance you'll end up there by February if you want to be patient". If it gets to February and it's clear he's not willing ot go to NJ, Denver will be incredibly stupid not to take what the Knicks are giving. That's why I think if Melo makes it clear to them soon that he wants to go to the Knicks it would be in their best interest to get a stronger package from teh Knicks now than a weaker one at the deadline. All this talk about Denver not wanting to deal with the Knicks out of principle is for the public and press. They're dealing him no matter what.

It's all up to Melo. Take the money and go to your 2nd choice or wait for the money and OWN NYC.

GustavBahler wrote:

Uptown wrote:At the end of the day it might just abe a big game of chicken. Just last week, reports leaked that it was NY or bust for Melo. Now, all of a sudden he's warming up to the idea of playing in the swamp. I can imagine Melos camp leaking the Melo to NY reports and the Nuggets countering by leaking the Nets reports as way to possibly force NY's hand in terms of spicing up thier offer (maybe including Feilds to a package of Gallo and Chandler.)

Sounds like it. He seems awfully anxious to leave this season.

http://www.nba.com/video/games/heat/2010/12/20/0021000410_dal_mia_recap.nba/index.html

Hell yeah. Watch that video...JR Smith posterizes someone and Melo's reaction was very bla

Vmart wrote:I hope this doesn't happen. Melo to Nets would be a bad break for the Knicks. Knicks need Melo if they seriously want to be in the conversation for a chip. Without him I see a similar fate for Amare as Ewing. Never having the second guy in his prime.

Agreed. Not only do we need a second star to go along with Amare, but there is absolutely no way we can allow him to go to the Nets of all teams. Thats why I'm wondering if this story was leaked as a way to get the Knicks to up the ante.

Uptown wrote:

Vmart wrote:I hope this doesn't happen. Melo to Nets would be a bad break for the Knicks. Knicks need Melo if they seriously want to be in the conversation for a chip. Without him I see a similar fate for Amare as Ewing. Never having the second guy in his prime.

Agreed. Not only do we need a second star to go along with Amare, but there is absolutely no way we can allow him to go to the Nets of all teams. Thats why I'm wondering if this story was leaked as a way to get the Knicks to up the ante.

I have come to the conclusion that you have to get Melo on the Knicks. If it means dropping Chandler, Gallo and AR or Fields I'm for it. I'm not worried about depleting the Knicks roster. Our guy doesn't play them anyway. This is waht I would most might not agree with it. Trade Chandler, Gallo and Fields for Melo. Get him on you team and increase you odds of signing him rather than losing him to the Nets. Other talents can be found but Superstar talent is a must for any Championship aspiration.

Vmart wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Vmart wrote:I hope this doesn't happen. Melo to Nets would be a bad break for the Knicks. Knicks need Melo if they seriously want to be in the conversation for a chip. Without him I see a similar fate for Amare as Ewing. Never having the second guy in his prime.

Agreed. Not only do we need a second star to go along with Amare, but there is absolutely no way we can allow him to go to the Nets of all teams. Thats why I'm wondering if this story was leaked as a way to get the Knicks to up the ante.

I have come to the conclusion that you have to get Melo on the Knicks. If it means dropping Chandler, Gallo and AR or Fields I'm for it. I'm not worried about depleting the Knicks roster. Our guy doesn't play them anyway. This is waht I would most might not agree with it. Trade Chandler, Gallo and Fields for Melo. Get him on you team and increase you odds of signing him rather than losing him to the Nets. Other talents can be found but Superstar talent is a must for any Championship aspiration.

Welcome to the darkside. But seriously, we didn't have a problem adding role/2nd teir players to the roster when Isiah was here. The problem was chasing and securing that super star. We have a star in Amare, so why not go all in and shoot for the championship when that other supertsar is somewhat available and is begging to come here. I'm not going to let Feilds stand in the way of possibly competing for a 'Chip'. We have an owner who has proven he would overspend just as long as we have GM that has a clue. Once we get Melo, we can overspend a bit to add the right pieces around Malo, Amre and Ray. Remember the defending champs Lakers are over the cap and spent money this summer to secure thier position.

martin wrote:I want to know how Nets can trade for Melo AND significantly upgrade their roster.

Man, you so dumb, they said "Harrington!!!"

Uptown wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Uptown wrote:

crzymdups wrote:It's not a matter of Donnie waking up - we have nothing the Nuggets want in a trade. And, moreover, it seems like the Nuggets ACTIVELY do not want to deal with NYK. They don't want to send Melo where he wants to go.

I know, just a little morning humor. But seriously, you are right the Nuggs seem hell-bent against sending Melo our way. So now its up to Melo. If he really wants to come here, he needs to inform them that he wont sign any extention until the summer. I think Melo is getting restless and impatient and just wants to get out of town. The Nuggs seemed to have 'smoked-him-out' in a sense as they have waited and waited until Melo bailed and accepted thier wishes. I just hope Melo can be a little more patient.

Melo basically admitted his first priority is signing the extension. And I can't blame him for that.

The league might change a lot with the new CBA - but I can guarantee you that existing deals will be grandfathered in. He'd be insane to leave $65M on the table. We can posture all we want, but having no contract at all versus having $65M is a pretty major difference heading into a labor dispute.

Thats it. That extension is his first priority and I think privately the Nuggs may have told him they will not ship to the Knicks. The idea that Melo will wait until the summer is a pipe dream because as you mentioned, he wants that money before the new CBA kicks in. Thats why I've said over and over that we have to trade for this guy this year and not take any chances and hope he will sign in the summer. Too many things can happen from now until then. Plus, it always comes down to dollars with the athletes regardless of the BS they spoon feed to the press.

Papabear Says

If Carmelo came to the Knicks he would be able to make that 65 million in other ways like indorsments. Dolan's got the money. It seem like no one wants to see the Knicks as contenders.

Papabear wrote:

Uptown wrote:

crzymdups wrote:It's not a matter of Donnie waking up - we have nothing the Nuggets want in a trade. And, moreover, it seems like the Nuggets ACTIVELY do not want to deal with NYK. They don't want to send Melo where he wants to go.

I know, just a little morning humor. But seriously, you are right the Nuggs seem hell-bent against sending Melo our way. So now its up to Melo. I think Melo is getting restless and impatient and just wants to get out of town. The Nuggs seemed to have 'smoked-him-out' in a sense as they have waited and waited until Melo bailed and accepted thier wishes. I just hope Melo can be a little more patient at least until around the deadline.

Papabear Says

Like I said before Denver would rather give Carmelo away as long as they are assured he won't come to the knicks. Well that's that. Can we now go to another subject.

That's what they're making it seem like, but if it comes down to just the Knicks they're not going to leave their franchise without anything in return. They'd be crazy to do that out of principle or not liking being dictated to or whatever.