Paladin55 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Thats the guy I thought the Knicks were getting. There are so many videos of him just showing incredible athleticism it is unbelievable that he can't get some run. Come on Mike give the boy a chance and save your glare and shout for Toney and Gallo when they f'up

There have been times when I expected to see some of the athleticism Randolph is noted for, but for us he has been a pretty pedestrian player so far. I've been amazed at how many times he's put up weak shots and not finished well. I have to think that his ankle issue was more serious than any of us expected.

Turiaf is the only GS player to give use anything this year, and he's also been slowed down by injury. These 3 guys were the players who should have been providing us with significant depth. Their failure to do so has been a major issue for MDA and our rotation.

after we traded D Lee for those guys, it's a shame AR hasn't gotten more of an extended look this season... right now it's looking as if we gave up Lee to get Turiaf, hardly an equitable trade off.

Nene (defensive big man anyone?)
Kenyon Martin. How much does he have left in the tank? Could be a nice cheap defensive minded big and add an edge to this team
JR Smith floor spacer in case we lose Gallo or Chandler. Yes headcase but damn skilled player. another guy with a chip on his shoulder

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:Kinda just noticed this but the Nuggets entire team is coming off the books this season

Nene (defensive big man anyone?)
Kenyon Martin. How much does he have left in the tank? Could be a nice cheap defensive minded big and add an edge to this team
JR Smith floor spacer in case we lose Gallo or Chandler. Yes headcase but damn skilled player. another guy with a chip on his shoulder

would love to add Kenyon Martin but not at the money he's making... that's way too much to pay for a backup PF even if it is an expiring contract... if we had some contracts we wanted to unload then he'd be an attractive option, but we don't other than Curry & the dollars don't match up... DEN is not about to accept Curry & Buike for KMart.

as for JR Smith, forget it... he'd find his way into MDA's doghouse just like Nate did.

has turned out to be a pretty damn stubborn coach. last year we had nate, jordan hill, and darko all sitting on the bench while hired guns who for sure wouldn't be on the team the next year (larry hughes, al harrington, et al) inexplicably played big minutes. say what you want about those guys, but nate is contributing on a team that has championship aspirations while we have felton playing 40+ a night because we don't have a backup PG. darko and hill, whatever, they are duds but why weren't they playing AT ALL last year? hill especially, you take him 8th overall on a team that is so deprived of any talent and then he racks up like 40 DNP-CDs before getting dealt in a salary cap move. what is that about?

VDesai wrote:Its not the season average as much as it hurts to go 40 mins in a night in back to backs or 3 games in 4 or 5 days. We have to be careful about bunching together serious mintues b/c what results are flat, tired efforts. The Cavs game would've been the perfect game to go 10 deep and open up the bench a bit.

Exactly. I have no doubt we lost that game largely because Amare was fatigued. It was pretty obvious to me. How does he go 41 minutes against a bad team on back-to-backs??? If D'Antoni isn't going to give him more of a breather in a game like that, then when will he? It's so unbelievably short-sighted.

Uptown wrote:Amare shouldnt be playing 42 mins per but lets be clear, our bench is garbage. You guys act like the bench didn't get a shot at all. Mason couldn't make a shot, Walker is a plodder who does nothing but make an occasional 3, Randolph was lost, and Moz clearly wasnt ready. The bench help we need is on our becnh yet.

Most here were talking about how deep our bench was.

Walker produced last year, did look lost in SL, and had some flashes this year- now is benched.

Randolph has produced at this level, was hurt last year, and should be able to contribute something in limited minutes.

Moz is certainly a project, but did seem to have his moments, especially on defense.

Uptown wrote:Amare shouldnt be playing 42 mins per but lets be clear, our bench is garbage. You guys act like the bench didn't get a shot at all. Mason couldn't make a shot, Walker is a plodder who does nothing but make an occasional 3, Randolph was lost, and Moz clearly wasnt ready. The bench help we need is on our becnh yet.

i believe you mean "isn't on our bench", but basically, i agree.

and some of y'all want to throw out guys who couldn't cut it on the court?

folks are complaining about moZgov, and randolph as costing the team too much, not being good enough (now), but in this thread others want us to play them?

putting these guys in for a few minutes a game could mean the difference in wins and loses.

are people even taking that into consideration as POSSIBLY WHY THEY AREN'T PLAYING even though it means amar'e and felton are logging BIG minutes.

again, i believe this is a short term, calculated measure, because i do not expect the roster to remain the same past the trade deadline.

we are going to make a deal to fix this issue, if we can, and YES (to answer a question in a previous thread), i would expect the rotation to grow by perhaps one more player, or have our backup bigs, starting center, and pgs (whoever that may be then) to earn more minutes than they currently are getting.

We could do fine with an 8 or 9 man rotation if they were all healthy.

PresIke wrote:

Uptown wrote:Amare shouldnt be playing 42 mins per but lets be clear, our bench is garbage. You guys act like the bench didn't get a shot at all. Mason couldn't make a shot, Walker is a plodder who does nothing but make an occasional 3, Randolph was lost, and Moz clearly wasnt ready. The bench help we need isn't on our bench yet.

i believe you mean "isn't on our bench", but basically, i agree.