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12/18/2010  11:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/18/2010  11:05 PM
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cheers wrote:mda problem in past seasons he was looking for a winning rotation. problem solved. mda has his top five winners. the new mda problem is how do you pepper in the rest of the team to always keep your top five fresh that is a problem mda has not solved.

Decision making of some of the starters today was totally low IQ or lazy. They could not create any big lead so that the bench can try and show up but even that the bench was not good. TD was usual out of control lately. Shawne was probably the only bench player that was playing the system.

it was neither its called, tired. felton jacked up a lot of shots without looking to pass. it was just tired play all around.

and no you dont wait for a big lead to include your bench, you include them from beginning of game to end. walsh did not hand mda a bunch of scrubs, they are all serviceable, to help our top five guys win.

Call it tired but here is gallos stat:

D. Gallinari(notes) 39:03 FG 3-14 3PT 1-10 FT 0-0

I am a big time supporter of gallo but you kidding me 0-0 free throw and 1-10 3pt thats not smart to me.

last two recent games gallo was hot, mda didnt make gallo the focal point of the offense. instead the ball was dumped to amar'e for the double team strip or ffs toney got a hold of it and of course shot it. lol.

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12/18/2010  11:09 PM
cheers wrote:
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cheers wrote:
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cheers wrote:mda problem in past seasons he was looking for a winning rotation. problem solved. mda has his top five winners. the new mda problem is how do you pepper in the rest of the team to always keep your top five fresh that is a problem mda has not solved.

Decision making of some of the starters today was totally low IQ or lazy. They could not create any big lead so that the bench can try and show up but even that the bench was not good. TD was usual out of control lately. Shawne was probably the only bench player that was playing the system.

it was neither its called, tired. felton jacked up a lot of shots without looking to pass. it was just tired play all around.

and no you dont wait for a big lead to include your bench, you include them from beginning of game to end. walsh did not hand mda a bunch of scrubs, they are all serviceable, to help our top five guys win.

Call it tired but here is gallos stat:

D. Gallinari(notes) 39:03 FG 3-14 3PT 1-10 FT 0-0

I am a big time supporter of gallo but you kidding me 0-0 free throw and 1-10 3pt thats not smart to me.

last two recent games gallo was hot, mda didnt make gallo the focal point of the offense. instead the ball was dumped to amar'e for the double team strip or ffs toney got a hold of it and of course shot it. lol.

Gallo put some gel on his hair again today I blame him for that LOL.

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12/18/2010  11:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/18/2010  11:09 PM
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last two recent games gallo was hot, mda didnt make gallo the focal point of the offense. instead the ball was dumped to amar'e for the double team strip or ffs toney got a hold of it and of course shot it. lol.

right, what dumb, crazy coach would go to their #1 star player who's scored 30pts + game after game.

you're reaching, my man.

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12/18/2010  11:10 PM
Silverfuel wrote:I don't think we need JVG over MDA. We need another offensive player and a decent defensive big. This is not an elite team, its an incomplete team.

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Mike D is killing this team. He is also killing the trade value of our players. He may talk defense but he is a 3 point gambler.

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12/18/2010  11:13 PM
Papabear wrote:
Silverfuel wrote:I don't think we need JVG over MDA. We need another offensive player and a decent defensive big. This is not an elite team, its an incomplete team.

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Mike D is killing this team. He is also killing the trade value of our players. He may talk defense but he is a 3 point gambler.

I don't blame the coach a lot but it takes two to make a team (coach/players). If the players are no showing you anything in practice unlike williams why play them? Obviously williams have showed something to warrant his playing time unlike AR or Moz.

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12/18/2010  11:16 PM
rp wrote:
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Silverfuel wrote:I don't think we need JVG over MDA. We need another offensive player and a decent defensive big. This is not an elite team, its an incomplete team.

Papabear Says

Mike D is killing this team. He is also killing the trade value of our players. He may talk defense but he is a 3 point gambler.

I don't blame the coach a lot but it takes two to make a team (coach/players). If the players are no showing you anything in practice unlike williams why play them? Obviously williams have showed something to warrant his playing time unlike AR or Moz.

for the obvious reason, that our top five are not robots, they need rest in game, to close out games.

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12/18/2010  11:16 PM
Papabear wrote:
Silverfuel wrote:I don't think we need JVG over MDA. We need another offensive player and a decent defensive big. This is not an elite team, its an incomplete team.

Papabear Says

Mike D is killing this team. He is also killing the trade value of our players. He may talk defense but he is a 3 point gambler.

yeah, clearly all mike d's fault..

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12/18/2010  11:27 PM
cheers wrote:
rp wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Silverfuel wrote:I don't think we need JVG over MDA. We need another offensive player and a decent defensive big. This is not an elite team, its an incomplete team.

Papabear Says

Mike D is killing this team. He is also killing the trade value of our players. He may talk defense but he is a 3 point gambler.

I don't blame the coach a lot but it takes two to make a team (coach/players). If the players are no showing you anything in practice unlike williams why play them? Obviously williams have showed something to warrant his playing time unlike AR or Moz.

for the obvious reason, that our top five are not robots, they need rest in game, to close out games.

Your argument is bench should be played but my argument the bench is not good so lets leave it at that.

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12/18/2010  11:30 PM
Papabear wrote:
Silverfuel wrote:I don't think we need JVG over MDA. We need another offensive player and a decent defensive big. This is not an elite team, its an incomplete team.

Papabear Says

Mike D is killing this team. He is also killing the trade value of our players. He may talk defense but he is a 3 point gambler.


Walsh is not done building this team yet. He has to get Amare some help. This team has overachieved and won over the last few weeks. We could be 6 games under .500 if MDA was not doing what he is doing. IMO, these losses are coming at the right time. They remind the fans/management that this team is missing major pieces. Let Walsh do his thing, wait and watch until the cavalry arrives.
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12/18/2010  11:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/18/2010  11:36 PM
rp wrote:
cheers wrote:
rp wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Silverfuel wrote:I don't think we need JVG over MDA. We need another offensive player and a decent defensive big. This is not an elite team, its an incomplete team.

Papabear Says

Mike D is killing this team. He is also killing the trade value of our players. He may talk defense but he is a 3 point gambler.

I don't blame the coach a lot but it takes two to make a team (coach/players). If the players are no showing you anything in practice unlike williams why play them? Obviously williams have showed something to warrant his playing time unlike AR or Moz.

for the obvious reason, that our top five are not robots, they need rest in game, to close out games.

Your argument is bench should be played but my argument the bench is not good so lets leave it at that.

your argument is a winner in nba jams boomshakalaka.

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12/18/2010  11:37 PM
cheers wrote:
rp wrote:
cheers wrote:
rp wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Silverfuel wrote:I don't think we need JVG over MDA. We need another offensive player and a decent defensive big. This is not an elite team, its an incomplete team.

Papabear Says

Mike D is killing this team. He is also killing the trade value of our players. He may talk defense but he is a 3 point gambler.

I don't blame the coach a lot but it takes two to make a team (coach/players). If the players are no showing you anything in practice unlike williams why play them? Obviously williams have showed something to warrant his playing time unlike AR or Moz.

for the obvious reason, that our top five are not robots, they need rest in game, to close out games.

Your argument is bench should be played but my argument the bench is not good so lets leave it at that.

your argument is a winner in nba jams boomshakalaka.

love the game but you really need it to the low level :)

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12/18/2010  11:38 PM
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12/19/2010  10:26 AM
Pure love? Not sure he has the cache anymore as a premiere coach or the desire. Dude has his bank and life is much easier broadcasting. He is good at it also.

His biggest crime in Houston was yao's feet

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12/19/2010  10:42 AM
People are acting as if Mike D'Antoni doesn't already have a history of very short rotations, and giving his starting lineup 40+ minutes. He's done this in Phoenix and NY. Mike D'Antoni has servicable bench players, he just needs to learn how to incorporate them. He has no trust in them, and vice versa, they have no confidence when they get yanked after one mistake (on offense only).
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12/19/2010  1:13 PM
Nalod wrote:Pure love? Not sure he has the cache anymore as a premiere coach or the desire. Dude has his bank and life is much easier broadcasting. He is good at it also.

His biggest crime in Houston was yao's feet

then how about coach ewing

i know ewing would take the job, and he would understand what amar'e needs to win.

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12/20/2010  11:41 AM
I have a short memory but I'm pretty sure that Jeff Van Gundy was notorious for short rotations and not wanting to play young guys. These appear to be the exact same arguments against D'Antoni
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12/20/2010  11:43 AM
Bippity10 wrote:I have a short memory but I'm pretty sure that Jeff Van Gundy was notorious for short rotations and not wanting to play young guys. These appear to be the exact same arguments against D'Antoni

don't let facts get in the way of a good argument.

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12/20/2010  12:09 PM
cheers wrote:
rp wrote:
cheers wrote:
rp wrote:
cheers wrote:mda problem in past seasons he was looking for a winning rotation. problem solved. mda has his top five winners. the new mda problem is how do you pepper in the rest of the team to always keep your top five fresh that is a problem mda has not solved.

Decision making of some of the starters today was totally low IQ or lazy. They could not create any big lead so that the bench can try and show up but even that the bench was not good. TD was usual out of control lately. Shawne was probably the only bench player that was playing the system.

it was neither its called, tired. felton jacked up a lot of shots without looking to pass. it was just tired play all around.

and no you dont wait for a big lead to include your bench, you include them from beginning of game to end. walsh did not hand mda a bunch of scrubs, they are all serviceable, to help our top five guys win.

Call it tired but here is gallos stat:

D. Gallinari(notes) 39:03 FG 3-14 3PT 1-10 FT 0-0

I am a big time supporter of gallo but you kidding me 0-0 free throw and 1-10 3pt thats not smart to me.

last two recent games gallo was hot, mda didnt make gallo the focal point of the offense. instead the ball was dumped to amar'e for the double team strip or ffs toney got a hold of it and of course shot it. lol.

Gallo has been the tale of 2 halfs (good one half no where to be found the next half)...walt says get the ball to the guy thats hot (when gallo had it going) mda says, spread the floor and get it to the guy that has the best available shot despite who's hot.

I agree with MDA, when you start force feeding guys cause they have it going, they star forcing wild shots, In the cavs game, Amare had hit 2 sweet shots, on his 3rd consecutive shot, he took a horrible shot, I mean mind boggling horrible, he was thinking he had it going and anything he through up would just drop in.

Amare, for all his good play and leadership, gives up 10 to 20 point with his turnovers

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12/20/2010  12:11 PM
Bippity10 wrote:I have a short memory but I'm pretty sure that Jeff Van Gundy was notorious for short rotations and not wanting to play young guys. These appear to be the exact same arguments against D'Antoni

This is true, but JVG played 8/9 guys no matter what..MDA is playing he's bench 6 to 12 minutes a game, why even put them in there, you bearly break a sweat with those BS minutes

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12/20/2010  12:12 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:I have a short memory but I'm pretty sure that Jeff Van Gundy was notorious for short rotations and not wanting to play young guys. These appear to be the exact same arguments against D'Antoni

This is true, but JVG played 8/9 guys no matter what..MDA is playing he's bench 6 to 12 minutes a game, why even put them in there, you bearly break a sweat with those BS minutes

JVG also had better benches. Would he run this team the same way D'Antoni is? Maybe, maybe not. But the evidence shows that he probably would do similar things.

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