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nixluva
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12/16/2010  5:06 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:Before the season started the majority of the board did not want Felton...as a matter of fact...pretty much everyone here hated Felton the first ten games!

I think it was a mistake to pass on Jennings but I am happy with Felton. Walsh probably wishes he would have locked him up for more years.


That's not entirely true. A lot of us liked Felton. The 1st week we were frustrated, but I think most wanted to see him succeed and he was actually doing come things well, just not the PnR. I think most of us thought he'd eventually get it. Jennings is a very talented guy, but I like having Felton for his D and toughness. He also led the Bobcats very well and brought that here. With both Felton and Amar'e leading it gives us an edge on the lesser teams.
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12/16/2010  5:10 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
MooK wrote:Felton all day...Jennings thinks he's Lady Gaga

Post of the day.

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12/16/2010  5:18 PM
martin wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Oh boy.........

The hits keep coming today.

I take Jennings. Jennings has excelled in the open floor recently. Prompting Skiles to change his lineup.

Jennings over Felton?

Yes. I feel Jennings is the better creator.

I have not watched 1 game of Jennings in his whole career. All I know is he is the creator for a team that has a legitimate big man, allstar C and the worst offensive efficiently team in the entire NBA.

and who the heck is Jennings creating for?

Guys like Ersan, Gooden, Bogut, and Boute.

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12/16/2010  5:27 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Oh boy.........

The hits keep coming today.

I take Jennings. Jennings has excelled in the open floor recently. Prompting Skiles to change his lineup.

Jennings over Felton?

Yes. I feel Jennings is the better creator.

I have not watched 1 game of Jennings in his whole career. All I know is he is the creator for a team that has a legitimate big man, allstar C and the worst offensive efficiently team in the entire NBA.

and who the heck is Jennings creating for?

Guys like Ersan, Gooden, Bogut, and Boute.

Salmons and Maggette too.

Did they put Redd out to pasture yet or is he still around?

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12/16/2010  5:36 PM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Oh boy.........

The hits keep coming today.

I take Jennings. Jennings has excelled in the open floor recently. Prompting Skiles to change his lineup.

Jennings over Felton?

Yes. I feel Jennings is the better creator.

I have not watched 1 game of Jennings in his whole career. All I know is he is the creator for a team that has a legitimate big man, allstar C and the worst offensive efficiently team in the entire NBA.

and who the heck is Jennings creating for?

Guys like Ersan, Gooden, Bogut, and Boute.

Salmons and Maggette too.

Did they put Redd out to pasture yet or is he still around?

- Michael Redd is rehabbing in Cleveland.

- Salmons and Maggette can create their own shots. They have just been TERRIBLE.

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12/16/2010  5:38 PM
I'd Take Felton...I give him a big defensive edge because of his strength..did you see him hold his own numerous times on switches against much taller players..don't see Jennings doing that at all. Jennings has the same disadvantages on switches that Nate Robinson had. Just too Feeble for my liking.
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12/16/2010  6:23 PM
the argument is not Jennings over Felton, its Jennings over Hill

If we had drafted Jennings we would have been in a far better negotiating position with regards to trading off salary last year. Hill was valueless and we didn't know what we had because our PG play was atrocious last season. Put Jennings in there and we could have spun off those pieces for more in return or without including so much from our end.

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12/16/2010  7:27 PM
ron artest or fred weis???????!//!//!?/?
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12/16/2010  7:38 PM
Solace wrote:Not even close. Felton all the way. Other than Anubis, there's no rational person who thinks this is even close.

I would hesitate to call him rational. But gotta give him credit for backing up what he says. :)

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12/16/2010  7:41 PM
I still see Stephon Marbury mixed with Jamal Crawford when I see Brandon Jennings. I hate his game and his personality. He just seems like such a punk to me. On the other side, Raymond Felton is a dream come true. A well spoken, mature, all about basketball PG LEADER who represents this team with class and respect. You won't see Felton making an ass out of himself on youtube or embarrassing the organization like Marbury and Jennings.
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12/16/2010  7:55 PM
loweyecue wrote:
Solace wrote:Not even close. Felton all the way. Other than Anubis, there's no rational person who thinks this is even close.

I would hesitate to call him rational. But gotta give him credit for backing up what he says. :)

Well, I don't like to insult. I think he's a little hard on the Knicks, for some reason (Isiah's secret admirer?), but otherwise, he does at least try to defend his arguments, so I can't fault him too much. Better than some who have fail written all over them.

As it is, though, the fact that we can have discussion where we can reasonably argue that we may have a top 5 PG and a top 5 PF, and have the record to back up these claims is amazing. The fact that threads like this exist, where the self-deprecating Knicks fan seems to be in the minority, is a feat in of itself.

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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12/16/2010  8:40 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Oh boy.........

The hits keep coming today.

I take Jennings. Jennings has excelled in the open floor recently. Prompting Skiles to change his lineup.

Jennings over Felton?

Yes. I feel Jennings is the better creator.

I have not watched 1 game of Jennings in his whole career. All I know is he is the creator for a team that has a legitimate big man, allstar C and the worst offensive efficiently team in the entire NBA.

and who the heck is Jennings creating for?

Guys like Ersan, Gooden, Bogut, and Boute.

Salmons and Maggette too.

Did they put Redd out to pasture yet or is he still around?

- Michael Redd is rehabbing in Cleveland.

- Salmons and Maggette can create their own shots. They have just been TERRIBLE.

LOL, isn't that what Jennings is for? Or is he that crappy at creating shots for others?

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12/16/2010  9:54 PM
That is a real tough question. I think if you compare them there is no doubt you take Felton but if the Knicks had drafted Jennings you have to wonder who would have been brought into compliment Amare. Also, would Jennings have attracted other free agents. Would the Knicks have done the McGrady trade in a different manner? I don't think it is a black and white question if you are talking about the Knicks drafting Jennings. Felton is a better player, leader and fit for this current team. However, if the Knicks drafted Jennings last year many things might be different at this point. Obviously things are going quite well with Felton.
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12/16/2010  10:28 PM
martin wrote:LOL, isn't that what Jennings is for? Or is he that crappy at creating shots for others?

Getting guys open looks and guys making shots are two different things.

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12/16/2010  10:31 PM
It's no argument- Felton. Jennings, did you see that recent blog post, with the chart, where it shows assists, efficiency, I don't even know, a bunch of dots, was it a dot graph? I'm a few years and a county jail bid removed from statistics and lab reports- but Jennings sucks, it's in the numbers, it's in how I read a ninja's face. Kid is wacked, Stephon 3.0, minus half the skill set. Felton is a true NBA Baller, Jennings would do well on the And1 tour, with Da Professor.
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12/16/2010  10:44 PM
Remember how incredibly hot Jennings started last season? Although he couldn't come close to maintaining that level, he still finished the season decently overall. This season, Jennings started out playing relatively poorly, but if they gave out a sophomore player of the month award for December, he would be the likely winner.

Jennings is learning how to manage games while still staying aggressive offensively. And his 3-point stroke is back, which makes him incredibly hard to defend on the Bucks' ball-screen action and in space.

One of the things I've loved about Jennings from day one is his passion to play both sides of the court. This year is no different. The Bucks try to play solid defense without gambling much, forcing teams to beat them five-on-five (and not five-on-four). Still, Jennings gets more than a steal a game; he's recorded at least one steal in 16 of his past 19 games.

Most importantly, Jennings' strong play has sparked his team to playoff relevance. The Bucks have won four of their past five (Miami was the only team to beat them), including a huge win in Dallas. Jennings and Andrew Bogut sparked that win Monday and are becoming one of the best point guard-center duos in the league.

Source: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=thorpe_david&page=Sophs-101215

Jennings is 21 years old and helping to carry his team.

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12/16/2010  11:02 PM
i take Felton even though Jennings might have the bigger upside... Felton has been too valuable as a leader & orchestrator on this team & he's got great synergy w/Amare going right now... plus i like Felton's defense on the perimeter this year.
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12/17/2010  3:37 AM
I dont watch the bucks, but Jennings put up shoddy stats last year, and is doing the same this year at least last time i checked. Under 40% from the field with an average # of assists. That's terrible. It just so happens that the couple times Ive seen him play he was outstanding, but he clearly doesn;t play like that on a consistent basis.
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12/17/2010  6:13 AM
I don't usually agree with AnubisADL, but on this I'm close (heheh). Felton is the better point guard right now. Brandon is actually pretty good as well as a ball distributor, but the problem is that he has no shot. People sag off him, clog the paint, and dare him to make jumpshots. Which he misses.

Once he can start making shots, Jennings will be a good point guard. Right now, he's OK. If you watch him play he always plays under control and makes good decisions.

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12/17/2010  6:48 AM
It depends on what position my team is in. Jennings is already a solid player and he is younger and cheaper than Felton. I know Raymond is better now, but I may lean toward Jennings just based on his youth and the cap implications.
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