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The Pierce/Amare shot and shotclock
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crzymdups
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12/16/2010  3:08 PM
Andrew wrote:
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:.2 made all the difference @ the very end, and is the shot clock would have been @ .6, the outcome could have been different.

The foul could also have been called on Pierce for the pushoff, with would have made a difference.

Also MDA could have had the NYK foul before Pierce ever got that shot off, and even if the Celts would have hit the 2 free throws, the Knicks would have had about 7 seconds to get off the shot instead of that jerkoff .4 shot chock screwup BS.

I'm tired pf even reading about that game. Time to leave that mess in the rear view mirror, hope that the Knicks learn from the experience enough to NEVER let it happens again, and move on to the next game. This team has another winning streak to work on, starting tomorrow.

Intentionally foul when the game is tied?

To be fair, the Knicks probably have a better chance of scoring when down two than they do of stopping the Celtics in a tie game.

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Biggamer3
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12/16/2010  3:11 PM
this is the most asinine thing i have ever heard. The % of you stopping a buzzer beater is alot higher then you actually hitting a buzzer beater
crzymdups
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12/16/2010  3:11 PM
Andrew wrote:Don't think that the time remaining on the clock in this case was re-viewable. The clock guy should have helped the Knicks by letting the time run out completely.


A. TRIGGER OF INSTANT REPLAY REVIEW OF GAME CLOCK MALFUNCTION:

Referees will consult instant replay if:
1. A play concludes (i) with no time remaining on the clock (0:00) at the end of any quarter or overtime period or (ii) at a point when the game officials believe that actual time may have expired in any quarter or overtime period; and
2. The game officials are reasonably certain that a game clock malfunction has occurred during the play. (A game clock malfunction includes situations caused by a mechanical malfunction or human error, such as a clock starting too soon or too late or an inbound play, stopping during play (whether or not it is re-started), or running too quickly during play, but does not include discrepancies resulting from what the officials determine to be normal reaction time or reasonable anticipation in starting the clock.

B. TIMING OF REVIEW:
The timing of such reviews would occur immediately following the play in which a game clock malfunction is identified.

C. REVIEWABLE MATTERS:
During an instant replay review of a game clock malfunction, the game officials would determine how much time actually expired, how much time (if any) is remaining in the period, and whether a shot attempt was made or a foul committed before time actually expired. In addition, the game officials would also be allowed to review certain other matters currently reviewable under the instant replay rules for shots taken with no time remaining on the game clock -- specifically, whether the shooter committed a boundary line violation and whether an 8-second backcourt violation occurred before the ball left the shooter's hand.

I'm 100% positive that Larry Brown argued for more time several times while he was Knicks coach. I remember one time the amount of time left was .9 seconds and they reviewed and changed it to 1.2 seconds.

It's crying over spilt milk at this point. I don't think D'Antoni did anything wrong. It's just unfortunate.

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Andrew
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12/16/2010  3:15 PM
Quite possible Larry did argue. The rules I posted were the revisions enacted in 2008, so that could have happened under a completely different set of parameters.
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12/16/2010  3:17 PM
Andrew wrote:
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:.2 made all the difference @ the very end, and is the shot clock would have been @ .6, the outcome could have been different.

The foul could also have been called on Pierce for the pushoff, with would have made a difference.

Also MDA could have had the NYK foul before Pierce ever got that shot off, and even if the Celts would have hit the 2 free throws, the Knicks would have had about 7 seconds to get off the shot instead of that jerkoff .4 shot chock screwup BS.

I'm tired pf even reading about that game. Time to leave that mess in the rear view mirror, hope that the Knicks learn from the experience enough to NEVER let it happens again, and move on to the next game. This team has another winning streak to work on, starting tomorrow.

Intentionally foul when the game is tied?

I want to coach against Hardcore

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Solace
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12/16/2010  3:24 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
Andrew wrote:
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:.2 made all the difference @ the very end, and is the shot clock would have been @ .6, the outcome could have been different.

The foul could also have been called on Pierce for the pushoff, with would have made a difference.

Also MDA could have had the NYK foul before Pierce ever got that shot off, and even if the Celts would have hit the 2 free throws, the Knicks would have had about 7 seconds to get off the shot instead of that jerkoff .4 shot chock screwup BS.

I'm tired pf even reading about that game. Time to leave that mess in the rear view mirror, hope that the Knicks learn from the experience enough to NEVER let it happens again, and move on to the next game. This team has another winning streak to work on, starting tomorrow.

Intentionally foul when the game is tied?

I want to coach against Hardcore

Actually may not be as bad a strategy as it sounds. This team shot over 53% for the game, so I almost like our odds with another possession instead of our defenses.

Hack a Pierce is in.

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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12/17/2010  9:58 AM
Solace wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
Andrew wrote:
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:.2 made all the difference @ the very end, and is the shot clock would have been @ .6, the outcome could have been different.

The foul could also have been called on Pierce for the pushoff, with would have made a difference.

Also MDA could have had the NYK foul before Pierce ever got that shot off, and even if the Celts would have hit the 2 free throws, the Knicks would have had about 7 seconds to get off the shot instead of that jerkoff .4 shot chock screwup BS.

I'm tired pf even reading about that game. Time to leave that mess in the rear view mirror, hope that the Knicks learn from the experience enough to NEVER let it happens again, and move on to the next game. This team has another winning streak to work on, starting tomorrow.

Intentionally foul when the game is tied?

I want to coach against Hardcore

Actually may not be as bad a strategy as it sounds. This team shot over 53% for the game, so I almost like our odds with another possession instead of our defenses.

Hack a Pierce is in.

Literally the dumbest strateg I ever heard

I just hope that people will like me
The Pierce/Amare shot and shotclock

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