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LandarryFieldsForever
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12/14/2010  5:23 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:
martin wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Walker and Azu for Flynn would be better. Flynn is completely misplaced in that triangle offense.

think you're getting Flynn for that?

Hard to tell... you might be right, but a cheap Walker for a relatively expensive Flynn who doesn't fit in that offense... I'd like to know what the cost would be if I was Walsh.

Why would they give up on a top 10 pick after 1 season of seeing him play for a mediocre 2nd rounder like Bill Walker?

Whether he fits there or not, that's a horrible return for Flynn.

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12/14/2010  6:23 PM
How about a Ridnour deal where Douglas goers to Sacramento for Dalembart? That would give us a C who can score a little bit defend and also rebound?
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12/14/2010  6:51 PM
LandarryFieldsForever wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:
martin wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Walker and Azu for Flynn would be better. Flynn is completely misplaced in that triangle offense.

think you're getting Flynn for that?

Hard to tell... you might be right, but a cheap Walker for a relatively expensive Flynn who doesn't fit in that offense... I'd like to know what the cost would be if I was Walsh.

Why would they give up on a top 10 pick after 1 season of seeing him play for a mediocre 2nd rounder like Bill Walker?

Whether he fits there or not, that's a horrible return for Flynn.

Look what TWilliams just got the Nets. A 1st round pick in what will be a terrible draft if there's a lockout. You're right, you probably have to give them more, but coming off hip surgery and a year that he demonstrated that he's not a triangle PG... what's his value?

I guess my point is that I don't like Ridnour at his salary. I'd rather give up more to get Flynn out of there. I think he'd be a nice PG off the bench in this system.

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12/14/2010  6:57 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:
LandarryFieldsForever wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:
martin wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Walker and Azu for Flynn would be better. Flynn is completely misplaced in that triangle offense.

think you're getting Flynn for that?

Hard to tell... you might be right, but a cheap Walker for a relatively expensive Flynn who doesn't fit in that offense... I'd like to know what the cost would be if I was Walsh.

Why would they give up on a top 10 pick after 1 season of seeing him play for a mediocre 2nd rounder like Bill Walker?

Whether he fits there or not, that's a horrible return for Flynn.

Look what TWilliams just got the Nets. A 1st round pick in what will be a terrible draft if there's a lockout. You're right, you probably have to give them more, but coming off hip surgery and a year that he demonstrated that he's not a triangle PG... what's his value?

I guess my point is that I don't like Ridnour at his salary. I'd rather give up more to get Flynn out of there. I think he'd be a nice PG off the bench in this system.

Ridnour is like the perfect type bench player for this team. He is a great 3 pt shooter and moves the ball well. The guy is shooting 50% the last 2 years. Give gim more space here and add +3-4 pts to our offensive differential--which is the key to the MDA system.

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12/14/2010  6:58 PM
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Allanfan20 wrote:I'd rather go after another big man. Just someone to protect STAT at least.

We need both

I agree with you, but I think having the big body is more essential. At least Toney Douglas plays his heart out, especially on the defensive end. His decision making is awful, but for NOW I can live with it, so long as he's producing on the defensive end.

The more Amar'e has to guard bigger skilled players, the more he's going to get in foul trouble, the more our defense will suffer and the more reliant we will be on our offense to bail us out.

I'd take him for cheap...nice back up

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12/14/2010  7:03 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Walker and Azu for Flynn would be better. Flynn is completely misplaced in that triangle offense.

Flynn is not a PG.

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12/14/2010  7:29 PM
this is a move that would get done after a Melo trade & not before... there's no way DW sacrifices cap space in '11 unless he knows if he's getting Melo or not.
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12/14/2010  7:30 PM
Free agents that become eligible for trade is not what I would call a high probability list. The Timberwolves signed Ridnour to a 4 year 16 million contract in later summer/fall 2010. A few months later, when he has been their best performing point guard this year, they suddenly have the urge to to trade him?

I think D'Antoni and Walsh both have learned not to bet against Toney Douglas continuing to improve over time. I don't think the Knicks commit to spending 12 million over the next 3 years, when they aren't confident that Toney Douglas might be a better player than Ridnour by next year.
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12/14/2010  8:33 PM
You figure that Felton will play 35 MPG. That leaves 13 MPG for a guy with a 4yr/$16M contract. There is no doubt that TD leaves much to be desired as a PG, but he can hold his own at the position, is a tenacious defender, and for the most part, a pretty good shooter. He has a good motor and he's been an important component of some of the defensive surges we've had during a few games this year.

I actually like Ridnour, and would not mind having him on the team if it is possible, but I also like the way Douglas contributes to this team, and wonder if we are better off in the long run if Douglas remains in the role he now plays for the Knicks.

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12/14/2010  9:39 PM
BRIGGS wrote:That would be a real nice addition--almost perfect for our team.

in our last game felton and ridinour went at it all game - wonder what practices would be like?


Had enough Melo?
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12/14/2010  10:06 PM
TMS wrote:this is a move that would get done after a Melo trade & not before... there's no way DW sacrifices cap space in '11 unless he knows if he's getting Melo or not.

Why do you keep insisting that Donnie for certain even wants Melo? We're hearing nothing but media reports and that's all.

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12/14/2010  10:16 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
TMS wrote:this is a move that would get done after a Melo trade & not before... there's no way DW sacrifices cap space in '11 unless he knows if he's getting Melo or not.

Why do you keep insisting that Donnie for certain even wants Melo? We're hearing nothing but media reports and that's all.

pretty sure donnie isn't going to come out and say he wants melo until he's introducing him at a press conference.

it's illegal to talk about another team's player - saying you want to trade for him.

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12/14/2010  10:33 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
TMS wrote:this is a move that would get done after a Melo trade & not before... there's no way DW sacrifices cap space in '11 unless he knows if he's getting Melo or not.

Why do you keep insisting that Donnie for certain even wants Melo? We're hearing nothing but media reports and that's all.

pretty sure donnie isn't going to come out and say he wants melo until he's introducing him at a press conference.

it's illegal to talk about another team's player - saying you want to trade for him.

correct... Donnie can't just straight come out & say he wants Melo, that would be tampering... i think there's enough being talked about out there along w/the manner in which DW went about last year's free agency that tells me he's not going to make any moves to take on salary until Melo's situation is settled.

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12/14/2010  10:39 PM
If Felton went down, we'd be in bad shape. Getting Ridnour not only means we have a good backup, it gives us some security at the point.
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12/15/2010  12:15 AM
TMS wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
TMS wrote:this is a move that would get done after a Melo trade & not before... there's no way DW sacrifices cap space in '11 unless he knows if he's getting Melo or not.

Why do you keep insisting that Donnie for certain even wants Melo? We're hearing nothing but media reports and that's all.

pretty sure donnie isn't going to come out and say he wants melo until he's introducing him at a press conference.

it's illegal to talk about another team's player - saying you want to trade for him.

correct... Donnie can't just straight come out & say he wants Melo, that would be tampering... i think there's enough being talked about out there along w/the manner in which DW went about last year's free agency that tells me he's not going to make any moves to take on salary until Melo's situation is settled.

Yes, I know that quite well. Again though, I say... what makes you think Donnie is actually going for him? Even if we're going by media, I don't remember one source claiming to be a Knick front office guy saying a peep. We have no clue.

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12/15/2010  1:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/15/2010  1:45 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
TMS wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
TMS wrote:this is a move that would get done after a Melo trade & not before... there's no way DW sacrifices cap space in '11 unless he knows if he's getting Melo or not.

Why do you keep insisting that Donnie for certain even wants Melo? We're hearing nothing but media reports and that's all.

pretty sure donnie isn't going to come out and say he wants melo until he's introducing him at a press conference.

it's illegal to talk about another team's player - saying you want to trade for him.

correct... Donnie can't just straight come out & say he wants Melo, that would be tampering... i think there's enough being talked about out there along w/the manner in which DW went about last year's free agency that tells me he's not going to make any moves to take on salary until Melo's situation is settled.

Yes, I know that quite well. Again though, I say... what makes you think Donnie is actually going for him? Even if we're going by media, I don't remember one source claiming to be a Knick front office guy saying a peep. We have no clue.

because DW made sure to keep enough cap flexibility to keep Melo a real option up to this point... he could have went all in & signed up a bunch of other FA's after he landed Amare this past summer but instead he made sure to get back enough expiring contracts to afford him the flexibility to target a bigname in 2011... & we all know James Dolan loves bringing in bigname stars to play in NY... all the signs are pointing to us going after Melo... do i know for a FACT that he's going after him? well no... but i think there are enough signs to make an educated guess that he's our #1 target right now.

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12/15/2010  8:18 AM
Ridnour coming to New York would be the seventh happiest day of my life. This guy can dish the potato, he can drain the trey bucket, he'll do it all for you. Tremendous ability, tremendous character.
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12/15/2010  9:04 AM
orangeblobman wrote:Ridnour coming to New York would be the seventh happiest day of my life. This guy can dish the potato, he can drain the trey bucket, he'll do it all for you. Tremendous ability, tremendous character.

can you elaborate on the other 6?
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12/15/2010  4:17 PM
jimimou wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Ridnour coming to New York would be the seventh happiest day of my life. This guy can dish the potato, he can drain the trey bucket, he'll do it all for you. Tremendous ability, tremendous character.

can you elaborate on the other 6?

Is good bro.

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