[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

OJ MAYO TO KNICKS BY NEXT WEEK?
Author Thread
AnubisADL
Posts: 27382
Alba Posts: 13
Joined: 6/29/2009
Member: #2771
USA
12/12/2010  6:13 PM
martin wrote:seems to me that Memphis wants to move him to save $$$ but I could be wrong. They just signed Gay and Conley to massive deals and have Gasol and Zach coming up too.

Xavier Henry has stepped up and is low cost over the next 5 years.

What do the Grizz need besides cap relief in return for Mayo? And what would the Knicks offer?

They want a replacement for Zach Randolph because they dont want to pay him either.

Memphis isnt going to have 50 million tied up in 4 players.

NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
AUTOADVERT
martin
Posts: 76269
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
12/12/2010  6:20 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:Word is that they want Chandler. Chandler is putting up much better numbers - every year, while Mayo is doing the opposite. The only way I would see us doing that trade is because we are afraid of losing Chandler at the end of the year anyway, in order to sign Melo. It would be a calculated gamble...

edit - We would have to throw in filler as Mayo was a lotto pick and makes more.

F that. Memphis would have to throw in more because Chandler is outperforming Mayo by a LOT.

Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
fishmike
Posts: 53838
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
12/12/2010  6:26 PM
exactly... I looking to extend Chandler. Looks more and more like Josh Smith all the time. Dude's only 22... I think we are just seeing the maturation of a very good player.
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
OasisBU
Posts: 24138
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 6/18/2002
Member: #257
USA
12/12/2010  6:29 PM
martin wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:Word is that they want Chandler. Chandler is putting up much better numbers - every year, while Mayo is doing the opposite. The only way I would see us doing that trade is because we are afraid of losing Chandler at the end of the year anyway, in order to sign Melo. It would be a calculated gamble...

edit - We would have to throw in filler as Mayo was a lotto pick and makes more.

F that. Memphis would have to throw in more because Chandler is outperforming Mayo by a LOT.

Exactly - I remember when we just missed out on this guy by not trading for a pick etc. I wouldnt trade Chandler for him - guy has proven nothing yet. He also has a bad reputation as a me first kind of guy - do we want that here?

"If at first you don't succeed, then maybe you just SUCK." Kenny Powers
Allanfan20
Posts: 35947
Alba Posts: 50
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #542
USA
12/12/2010  6:30 PM
fishmike wrote:exactly... I looking to extend Chandler. Looks more and more like Josh Smith all the time. Dude's only 22... I think we are just seeing the maturation of a very good player.

Ditto. He's becoming a very reliable scorer and when he's left wide open for 3, he's lights out.... and it happens a lot.

“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
JohnWallace44
Posts: 25119
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 6/14/2005
Member: #910
USA
12/12/2010  6:40 PM
Trading any of our wings for wings with bigger names like Mayo or Iggy is retarded.

Douglas/AR combos make sense if you can get back more useful size or ball handling options. I wonder if the Knicks are feeling pressure to get more talent in here before having to extend Ill Will.

Gallo played, to me, one of the best games of his career here against Denver in the sense that he played sustainable offense that was efficient and fit with the offense. I'd still trade him in the perfect scenario, but my price just went up. You almost have to make a move with the lockout looming and the team playing so great, but you really could mess it up if Melo or OJ come in here and throw things off.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
VDesai
Posts: 42755
Alba Posts: 44
Joined: 10/28/2003
Member: #477
USA
12/12/2010  6:49 PM
Agreed that Mayo is better than Chandler.

Lets see what happens against Boston and Miami. If he we lose both decisively I think we'll realize we may need some trades to get to the next level. If we can win or two of those games or really compete hard in them, I think you try to stand pat with what you have and only look to make minor moves as needed.

JohnWallace44
Posts: 25119
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 6/14/2005
Member: #910
USA
12/12/2010  7:21 PM
How is Mayo better than Chandler? We're talking about winning ballgames here, not starpower.
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
AnubisADL
Posts: 27382
Alba Posts: 13
Joined: 6/29/2009
Member: #2771
USA
12/12/2010  7:23 PM
Why do people assume Memphis wants Chandler? He is playing for a contract this summer. Mayo is under contract for another year.

Memphis has that guy Rudy Gay who they are paying the max too.

NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
12/12/2010  7:35 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:Word is that they want Chandler. Chandler is putting up much better numbers - every year, while Mayo is doing the opposite. The only way I would see us doing that trade is because we are afraid of losing Chandler at the end of the year anyway, in order to sign Melo. It would be a calculated gamble...

edit - We would have to throw in filler as Mayo was a lotto pick and makes more.

makes absolutely no sense if that's the plan as Mayo still has another year left on his deal, so in essence we'd have to dump his contract if we wanted to sign Melo this summer too... the only way we make a trade for Mayo is if a Melo trade is soon to follow.

After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
martin
Posts: 76269
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
12/12/2010  7:48 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Why do people assume Memphis wants Chandler? He is playing for a contract this summer. Mayo is under contract for another year.

Memphis has that guy Rudy Gay who they are paying the max too.

Chandler would be able to play PF for them and allow to either trade or let Zach walk and resign Gasol.

You keep bringing up the fact that Chandler is playing for a contract like it means something significant. Every player is playing for a contract. This is not a loafer player who suddenly woke up and realized that he was in need to extend ala John Salmons.

Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
12/12/2010  7:53 PM
the only trade I would be looking to make, is obviously one that make us a contender...a title contender..

We have been winning like we havent been in 10 to 15 years, we haven't won 8 str8t, since ewings prime.

you guy's want to give up on AR, but 4 months ago he was the next KG

ES
mightymatt
Posts: 20020
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/9/2010
Member: #3300

12/12/2010  8:01 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:Your 1st post is some unsubstantiated rumor from some crap website? Not a good look, man.

You're making Bip look like a genius in comparison.

sooo that's what Bip was put down for? I'm new here, and wasn't aware of the expected standards required to adhere to prior to posting a new thread for discussion. haha. i'll be sure to check in with MDA or Mr. Dolan himself before I go and post any rumors on here. :)

Now with the exception of those in close quarters with the players and organization themselves, my information is as good as any when it comes to the future dealings of the Knicks. I will admit to being a Knick fan my whole life, and unfortunately have been banished to the desert of Arizona and for the first time in the five years I've been here...I am glad that another team wearing orange is in the news again!! The Locals are starting to hate me more and more with first the departure of MDA and now Mr 30ppg himself all over the headlines. I'll see what I can do to send Steve Nash New York's way before I leave this place...hahah

Now as far as the OJ Mayo business...if their is any truth to this...I see him as a solid SG on both ends of the floor to insert to the lineup. depending on what it costs to get the deal done, i'm all for it!

Bippity10
Posts: 13999
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/26/2004
Member: #574
12/12/2010  8:04 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:Your 1st post is some unsubstantiated rumor from some crap website? Not a good look, man.

You're making Bip look like a genius in comparison.

Woooooaaaaah! Another shot out of no where

I just hope that people will like me
Childs2Dudley
Posts: 23906
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 1/25/2010
Member: #3051
USA
12/12/2010  8:05 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Your 1st post is some unsubstantiated rumor from some crap website? Not a good look, man.

You're making Bip look like a genius in comparison.

Woooooaaaaah! Another shot out of no where

Do you have a problem Bippity? Want to take this outside? I'm ready to throw down!

"Our attitude toward life determines life's attitude towards us." - Earl Nightingale
JohnWallace44
Posts: 25119
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 6/14/2005
Member: #910
USA
12/12/2010  8:17 PM
I would think there are better matches out there as far as trade partners for Memphis unless we're giving up Chandler or Fields. I wouldn't do an OJ trade involving either though.

It would have to be a trade based around TD/Randolph for me and then you have OJ as the 6th man to control the team when Felton and/or STAT are sitting. That's basically all this team needs is a playmaker in the backcourt off the bench and rebounding/PnR/defense depth up front. Over-reaching for a big name would be a mistake.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
martin
Posts: 76269
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
12/12/2010  8:19 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:I would think there are better matches out there as far as trade partners for Memphis unless we're giving up Chandler or Fields. I wouldn't do an OJ trade involving either though.

It would have to be a trade based around TD/Randolph for me and then you have OJ as the 6th man to control the team when Felton and/or STAT are sitting. That's basically all this team needs is a playmaker in the backcourt off the bench and rebounding/PnR/defense depth up front. Over-reaching for a big name would be a mistake.

Via TommyD, Grizz interested in/targeting Chandler.

Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
mightymatt
Posts: 20020
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/9/2010
Member: #3300

12/12/2010  8:20 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:I would think there are better matches out there as far as trade partners for Memphis unless we're giving up Chandler or Fields. I wouldn't do an OJ trade involving either though.

It would have to be a trade based around TD/Randolph for me and then you have OJ as the 6th man to control the team when Felton and/or STAT are sitting. That's basically all this team needs is a playmaker in the backcourt off the bench and rebounding/PnR/defense depth up front. Over-reaching for a big name would be a mistake.

I agree! I don't like the idea of letting Fields go at all this season. I'd rather hold on to chandler in hopes for a possible 'melo deal or someone of his caliber.

AnubisADL
Posts: 27382
Alba Posts: 13
Joined: 6/29/2009
Member: #2771
USA
12/12/2010  8:37 PM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Why do people assume Memphis wants Chandler? He is playing for a contract this summer. Mayo is under contract for another year.

Memphis has that guy Rudy Gay who they are paying the max too.

Chandler would be able to play PF for them and allow to either trade or let Zach walk and resign Gasol.

You keep bringing up the fact that Chandler is playing for a contract like it means something significant. Every player is playing for a contract. This is not a loafer player who suddenly woke up and realized that he was in need to extend ala John Salmons.

Chandler at PF in the Western Conference? Not going to happen. Loinel Hollins is not D'Antoni.

Chandler needs to get paid this summmer. They want a cheap PF which Chandler isnt anyway. Memphis also doesnt want to have to work about signing Chandler and Gasol this summer.

I think Memphis would prefer a Jason Thompson type player versus Chandler.

NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
technomaster
Posts: 23348
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 6/30/2003
Member: #426
USA
12/12/2010  10:14 PM
Well, we've got an interesting challenge w/ Chandler. We'd need to renounce him (and others!) if we were to sign Carmelo as a FA. Alternatively, we'd probably need to pay him 6-9million per year, effectively eliminating our cap space.

Mayo still has a few years left potentially on his rookie deal.

I like the versatility that the Knicks current lineup brings - we have Gallo/Chandler/Amare/Fields - all are capable of playing multiple positions, allowing us to tweak our lineup for running or half court.

Gallo/Chandler each is not as good as a Carmelo - but a lineup with both creates opportunities a lineup with just Carmelo would. (I'm ambivalent on any move for Carmelo - though I'd be in favor of it strongly if we could keep at least one of Gallo/Chandler - both of them are turning into glue guys)

At this stage of their careers, Chandler is a better player than Mayo - clearly. You'd think Mayo has more upside/talent/bball IQ... but Chandler is "versatile," able to leverage strengths to his game whether he's playing SG/SF/PF. Mayo gets the negative connotation of tweener. He's a small SG... and hasn't shown the ability to exploit his size/skills against smaller opponents when playing PG.

“That was two, two from the heart.” - John Starks
OJ MAYO TO KNICKS BY NEXT WEEK?

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy