BlueSeats wrote:

TMS wrote:we already have 2 "we don't need Melo" threads on the frontpage & BRIGGS posts another one... this is spamming the boards... if anyone else were to post a "we need Carmelo thread" after every game we lost at the beginning of the year they would've gotten banned.

I imagine Briggs is a day trader and buys and sells the same stock many times over the course of a day. I've seen him do it with players too.

LOL, at least he's consistant

Most of us have agreed that he's worth trading for, we're just haggling over price/offer.

thejerk wrote:Melo shot like sh!t from beyond the arc and he still torched us, I know he may not have the best 3 point jumper in the league but he is still better than 0 for 6.

yea he isn't better than fields, gallo, and chandler though, sorry. in a 3 on 1 game, fields/gallo/chandler win every time.

BRIGGS wrote:

thejerk wrote:OK guys I think we should all calm down about our current team. Melo is the man and the Knicks should do what they have to to get him. Once again Melo does this every night for years, not just 25 games into the season, the dunk and the free throws in the end was clutch. Our team is hot, hopefully they continue to play like this to increase the value of our guys so that we can pull in Melo.

Any two out of Landry, Chandler, and Gallo plus a pick. WHATTTTTTTTTTT???? No way

If we sign Melo in the summer we lose Chandler anyway. I'd sub AR for Fields, though.

BigSm00th wrote:

thejerk wrote:OK guys I think we should all calm down about our current team. Melo is the man and the Knicks should do what they have to to get him. Any two out of Landry, Chandler, and Gallo plus a pick. Once again Melo does this every night for years, not just 25 games into the season, the dunk and the free throws in the end was clutch. Our team is hot, hopefully they continue to play like this to increase the value of our guys so that we can pull in Melo.

why not throw in mozgov and a free box at the garden?

knicks have all the leverage. melo can sign as a FA if there's no lockout. otherwise, i'd consider a gallo/curry/AR package but not certain. anything beyond that, no way. no fields, no chandler. no way i trade 2 starters to get 1 starter when i'm 7 games above 500.

Dude I didnt say all that, but I am going to stick to my guns. I will give up any 2 out of Gallo, The Mayor, and Landry, plus a pick if I was certain we were going to lose him to another ballclub such as the Nets, Bulls, Magic, Cats, etc...

With this being said, if I was led to believe that he was going to come here via FA, I wouldnt even engage in trade talks with the Nugs, that is common sense right here.

I would ideally want to keep Landry then Gallo then Will. Even if we got Melo during the summer, we would not have the space to keep Chandler, so giving him up in a trade for Melo is a no brainer, plus Curry and a pick and this is what I want the most guys, at least in terms of a trade. But if Denver was adamant about squeezing more from us the most I would do is add one other player (Fields or Gallo), not both. Obviously I would try and offer maybe a couple of second rounders before giving in to their demands but in the end I would pull the trigger on this deal.

Walsh on the other hand isnt a fool and he will exhaust all options before giving in to what Denver may or may not want from us. If that means we miss out on Mello, then so be it, but if someone asked me of what I would do right now, I would do that deal.

But... Wouldn't we have to give of something else?

I want melo, and I want to keep gallo, fields and Chandler. I want my cake and eat it too!

Curry, Randolph, mason, etc. At this point, they can take it or leave it.

For the melo hatred, after celtics and heat, you'll understand the need for two super stars.

BRIGGS wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:I like standing pat, getting the 6th seed, renouncing Chandler, signing melo and getting chandler at the mle.

But... Wouldn't we have to give of something else?

I want melo, and I want to keep gallo, fields and Chandler. I want my cake and eat it too!

Curry, Randolph, mason, etc. At this point, they can take it or leave it.

For the melo hatred, after celtics and heat, you'll understand the need for two super stars.

The only way the C's take us is quality size depth --everything else we are right there. Bring on the Heat--we have Amare--they do not.

I love it when you talk optimism baby!

babyKnicks wrote:I like standing pat, getting the 6th seed, renouncing Chandler, signing melo and getting chandler at the mle.

But... Wouldn't we have to give of something else?

I want melo, and I want to keep gallo, fields and Chandler. I want my cake and eat it too!

Curry, Randolph, mason, etc. At this point, they can take it or leave it.

For the melo hatred, after celtics and heat, you'll understand the need for two super stars.

I agree with what you saying, but its not even about the next two games, we could sweep them both and I would still want to give up both our sf's for the guy in Denver. I just feel he can do it much more consistently especially in the playoffs. If come February and we have the number one seed in the east, then I will admit that I was wrong,(maybe).

As for chemistry, this is a bit tricky. He did pull that punch and run punk **** a whiles back. In terms of character, yeah you are probably right, Melo isnt in the same class as Gallo, Will, and Fields. Hopefully he has grown up since then, he didnt really have any types of outbursts before that incident. The key thing is he actually wants to come here, he is now motivated. It would be unreal if he pushed to become a Knick and started to mess/play around once he got here. With the cocaptain Amare standing right next to him, I think he will act a bit more mature, he has to, as you grow older you mature, no?

BRIGGS wrote:I guarantee this team will win its next two home games and will make a stronger case for management to just focus on this season and getting us some high quality depth.

I've been avoiding your mad proclamations, but I'm rooting for this one.

The problem with that is yes Amare and Felton have brought us more of a swagger and a belief we can win. But that doesn't mean that another super star will automatically have a second beneficial effect. Particularly when that superstar is accustomed to taking more shots, and he also breaks up the excellent chemistry of the current Knicks.

In short, I think it is a crap shoot as to whether Melo aids team morale or weakens it. What do you think?

BRIGGS wrote:I cant emphasize it enough--we need a bench enhancement a good sized combo guard who can score(maybe OJ Mayo?) and an additional big man who cans core--changing the SL or trading any of the starters would be crazy given their age skills and the way they fit in. Think about this some people wanted to trade Gallo Chandler and Fields for Melo--clearly these people do not know what a team is. Caremlo demands too many shots and would interfere with our go to player and chemistry--we have a great team that needs additions to the bench.

We can already outscore teams--we dont need that--we need interior help and additional quality depth

Dude we need Carmelo Anthony. We have Amare and Felton playing 40+ minutes a night. An NBA season is about pacing.

Is Chandler going shoot 80% from the 3 on the nightly basis? NO
Is Fields going to average 18 and 9 on the nightly basis? NO

Guys can get up for big games. We need guys who can do is for 82 games.

Carmelo and Amare are averaging the SAME amount of FGA per game for this season. Obvisouly their attempts would drop and we'd likely see greater efficiency.

Tonights game was an example of Amare and Carmelo playing each other to a stale mate and Carmelo played less minutes.

AnubisADL wrote:
Carmelo and Amare are averaging the SAME amount of FGA per game for this season. Obvisouly their attempts would drop and we'd likely see greater efficiency.

There is no reason to assume that this will be necessarily be the case. In fact, the opposite might even be true- they may become less efficient with fewer touches.

You also face the possibility of losing the offensive flow your team has, not to mention the fact that your defense would take a hit if you give up 2 of the 3 guys people are talking about giving up.