AnubisADL wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

Im calling it like I see it.

The most overrated cliche mankind ever invented. If I had a dime for how many times people say that but, really, they don't see it, I'd be soooooooooo rich.

Lets see the Knicks frontcourt get killed defensively and see D'Antoni release the hound and see how it works out after all the work in practice. Or for that matter, lets see how a year on pine will create a learning experience for Randolph when he, once again, has an opportunity next season.

BTW, stop placing pressure on the kid by calling him Camby, Odom et al. ust let him be himself.

Yea sorry for stating my opinion. Next time I will run any posts by you before I post. If you agree with my post then I will post otherwise I will scrap the post.

Dude has been in the league 2 years and has done diddly. Dude gets minutes and comes in jacking shots.

Randolph says one thing and does another while on the floor. Where have I seen that before.....

I'm not calling you out for your opinion. I'm calling you out for saying "I'm calling it the way I see it."

I still disagree and think AR has the potential, but as of now, you're still unfortunately right about him. However, why can't you just root for the kid? He HAS the talent and potential. If he works hard and does what MDA wants in practice and puts forth the effort, good things will come.

Allanfan20 wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

Im calling it like I see it.

The most overrated cliche mankind ever invented. If I had a dime for how many times people say that but, really, they don't see it, I'd be soooooooooo rich.

Lets see the Knicks frontcourt get killed defensively and see D'Antoni release the hound and see how it works out after all the work in practice. Or for that matter, lets see how a year on pine will create a learning experience for Randolph when he, once again, has an opportunity next season.

BTW, stop placing pressure on the kid by calling him Camby, Odom et al. ust let him be himself.

Yea sorry for stating my opinion. Next time I will run any posts by you before I post. If you agree with my post then I will post otherwise I will scrap the post.

Dude has been in the league 2 years and has done diddly. Dude gets minutes and comes in jacking shots.

Randolph says one thing and does another while on the floor. Where have I seen that before.....

I'm not calling you out for your opinion. I'm calling you out for saying "I'm calling it the way I see it."

I still disagree and think AR has the potential, but as of now, you're still unfortunately right about him. However, why can't you just root for the kid? He HAS the talent and potential. If he works hard and does what MDA wants in practice and puts forth the effort, good things will come.

I was high on Randolph before the season. I said he needs to focus on defending and rebounding to reach his potential. Instead he thinks he is Kevin Durant. So now he is sitting on the bench.

As said before. He is not ready so tear him done and rebuild him. This takes awhile. He is a worthy project.

Allanfan20 wrote: I happen to see Anthony Randolph as a cross between Dwight Howard and Bill Russell. It's just flabberghasing that MDA has Bill Howard rotting on the bench like that. Absolutely flabberghasting.

I can hardly wait

holfresh wrote:This coach just kills my enthusiasm at times...There is zero reason not to play the kid...The same mistakes MDA laments about I see Mozgov doing all the time...He needs to be more active on the defensive end of the court...He can help the Knicks there...Play the kid and stop playing favorites...

& that is the crux of what irks me about this head coach sometimes... his says something 1 second & contradicts himself w/his actions the next... i can only assume something is happening in practice that AR is doing that displeases the head coach... he needs to get on MDA's good side if he ever wants to see playing time... maybe he's not working hard enough in practice while Moz is busting his ass running sprints? who the hell knows.

fishmike wrote:

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for more from him right out of the box but he's not at the level of the other players right now.

Look at the rotation MDA is leaning on. Felton, Fields, Gallo, Chandler, Amare, Turiaf, Williams, Douglas. ALL are smart heady players who understand spacing, ball movement, etc
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This hits the nail on the head WHY the Knicks are capable of winning while letting physical talent lay latent on the bench. If anything, the addition of Felton, Fields, Amare, and Turiaf have increased the team's bball IQ. They're all probably have higher bball IQ's than last year's team best BBall IQ - probably Gallo.

I think Randolph needs to understand that if he rejiggers his game to be more NBA-center like, he'll be able to achieve a $10m+/year contract while having fairly pedestrian production (see the likes of Curry, Chandler, Nene, Dalembert, Dampier, none of whom have been dominant forces).

Paladin55 wrote:

holfresh wrote:This coach just kills my enthusiasm at times...There is zero reason not to play the kid...The same mistakes MDA laments about I see Mozgov doing all the time...He needs to be more active on the defensive end of the court...He can help the Knicks there...Play the kid and stop playing favorites...

Randolph tries to do too much and seems to find more ways to screw up than a player like Mosguv, and lets face it, when Mosguv's production went down so did his minutes, so its not like MDA blindly lets guys play who are not producing.

I don't think Mosguv has the pretensions Randolph has in terms of what he thinks he can do on the court- he pretty much knows his role.

I assume that MDA has given Randolph an idea of what he can and can't do on the court, and that Randolph has not shown the consistency he needs to show in order to get minutes.

I hope Randolph can find a comfort zone with this team- I still think that he can come around as a player, but he has to limit himself to doing a few things on the court.

I don't like when we go player versus team. If Im discussing a player out of the team concept--thats a red flag. If AR wants to play a certain way and MDA doesnt like it--dont bet on anything changing. We have a real need to improve the bench--I like what we have long term but we haev to make a bench that makes sense and helps take pressure off of the starting unit which is working very hard. Ig I could take back a Jared jefferies who was useful here and 6-11 + a pick and give up Randolph and azu ending contract--I would do it. Anything that makes sense to improve the team. I really do think we haev our star and very good scoring complimentary players--lets face it every night either Gallo or Chandler will have 20-15 respectively and that is excellent production. To have a diversified knat like Jefferies would help and a draft pick can either be parlayed into a big man or we just use it next year at the draft--of future draft. That particular type of trade wouldn't effect anything other than helping the bench. If AR has shown he wants to play out of the team concept--lets get the best deal for him.