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AnubisADL
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12/8/2010  11:40 PM
I want no parts of Igoudala the brick mason.
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12/8/2010  11:45 PM
AnubisADL wrote:I want no parts of Igoudala the brick mason.

yeah but you wanted us to trade for Gilbert Arenas? come on bro.

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12/8/2010  11:53 PM
TMS wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:I want no parts of Igoudala the brick mason.

yeah but you wanted us to trade for Gilbert Arenas? come on bro.

Andre Igoudala is a point forward to me. We need a guy who can knock down shots.

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12/8/2010  11:58 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
TMS wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:I want no parts of Igoudala the brick mason.

yeah but you wanted us to trade for Gilbert Arenas? come on bro.

Andre Igoudala is a point forward to me. We need a guy who can knock down shots.

Point forward?! What are you talkin about?
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12/9/2010  12:00 AM
Panos wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
TMS wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:I want no parts of Igoudala the brick mason.

yeah but you wanted us to trade for Gilbert Arenas? come on bro.

Andre Igoudala is a point forward to me. We need a guy who can knock down shots.

Point forward?! What are you talkin about?

I meant what I said. Igoudala is a great ball handler, passer, and finisher. He is not a good jumper shooter.

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12/9/2010  12:07 AM
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TMS wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:I want no parts of Igoudala the brick mason.

yeah but you wanted us to trade for Gilbert Arenas? come on bro.

Andre Igoudala is a point forward to me. We need a guy who can knock down shots.

i view him more as a slashing penetrating wing / finisher... if u have Gallo & Shawne Williams on the outside u can afford to have a guy like Iggy slashing to the rim & breaking down defenses... he'd pretty much be doing what Wilson's doing now, only w/better defense on the perimeter & more explosion into the lane... if we can get a guy that can knock down shots on the outside AND bring tough defense then i'm all ears, but who's out there we can realistically target?

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12/9/2010  12:10 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/9/2010  12:11 AM
TMS wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
TMS wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:I want no parts of Igoudala the brick mason.

yeah but you wanted us to trade for Gilbert Arenas? come on bro.

Andre Igoudala is a point forward to me. We need a guy who can knock down shots.

i view him more as a slashing penetrating wing / finisher... if u have Gallo & Shawne Williams on the outside u can afford to have a guy like Iggy slashing to the rim & breaking down defenses... he'd pretty much be doing what Wilson's doing now, only w/better defense on the perimeter & more explosion into the lane... if we can get a guy that can knock down shots on the outside AND bring tough defense then i'm all ears, but who's out there we can realistically target?

From what I've seen he handles the ball ALOT. He also frequently brought the ball up for philly and initiated the offense.

Now if you switched roles to be more of a slasher than I can see that working. I think Andre would beast in Golden State's offense with Curry and Lee.

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12/9/2010  7:53 AM
Melo wants NY. He is driving the process. Unless a team is willing to rent him, he is not going anywhere else.

The Knicks are developing chemistry now and they should play it out as long as possible. If I am DW, I am not giving up too much to get a guy who is coming in July anyway. Denver is full of it if they do not like our "young" guns. Gallinari, Chandler and Fields are better then any youth they have now.

Melo will be a Knick but they should be patient with him.
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12/9/2010  7:59 AM
last night gallo the cream, chandler the rabbi, and fields the chin -- totally obliterated the trade value of melo.

no way if a trade happens the nuggets get two out of the three. one, and that's sincerely the knicks final offer.
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12/9/2010  8:31 AM
Iggy and Melo I'm just not getting excited.

I know it's crazy, but I'm not giving up Fields. The kid is one of the most unique players in the league already. He doesn't need the ball to be effective and he is the best rebounder at the guard spot in the NBA and his motion is very effective with Amare.

We have been bad for so long and Felton and Amare are really looking strong that it's interesting to explore trades to put us in conention, but we have youth at everyone position there is no need to move kids for veterans with a one year self life.

Carmelo is a diva he is leading the league in T's and Denver isn't even that bad. He signed the contract he wanted the money now he should be a man and keep his mouth shut and let management move him without making a fuss. It's about Melo not the team.
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12/9/2010  9:25 AM
MS wrote:Iggy and Melo I'm just not getting excited.

I know it's crazy, but I'm not giving up Fields. The kid is one of the most unique players in the league already. He doesn't need the ball to be effective and he is the best rebounder at the guard spot in the NBA and his motion is very effective with Amare.

We have been bad for so long and Felton and Amare are really looking strong that it's interesting to explore trades to put us in conention, but we have youth at everyone position there is no need to move kids for veterans with a one year self life.

Carmelo is a diva he is leading the league in T's and Denver isn't even that bad. He signed the contract he wanted the money now he should be a man and keep his mouth shut and let management move him without making a fuss. It's about Melo not the team.

Word is bond. Melo is another LeBaby-type player. They're all B's. We have serious hardcore ballers here, we have Gallinari who is the ultimate baller, and Amar'e who balls so hard, a young core, a superstar in Amar'e, a dope fresh point. Why blow that up to get an overgrown baby like Melo, with a ton of tattoos. Not a good idea. Period.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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12/9/2010  9:29 AM
I like Iggy and thought he could be a good fit earlier in the year but the emergence of Fields kills that. Iggy is obviously the better player than Fields (now) but its certainly not a need anymore. LOVE what we get from the SG spot.

As for Camby he would really help us he was made of glass at 26, what about at 36???

If anything it shows how slim the pickins are

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12/9/2010  9:35 AM
I really do not want to take any chances losing out on Carmelo Anthony. The FA is pretty bad next summer after Melo. I'd still offer Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler and Anthony Randolph. We're losing Chandler anyway, Randolph is a total scrub and we don't need Gallinari if we have Melo (Shawne Williams, Toney Douglas, Bill Walker and Kelenna Azubuike provide enough outside shooting and spacing). I would no way include Landry Fields. I think adding Melo to our core of Amar'e Stoudemire, Raymond Felton and Fields takes us to that next level.
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12/9/2010  10:52 AM
fishmike wrote:As for Camby he would really help us he was made of glass at 26, what about at 36???

Camby only missed 8 games last year & hasn't missed any this year... if u think there are other guys that can get you 12 rebounds & 2 blocks a game out there, feel free to suggest them.

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12/9/2010  10:58 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
TMS wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
TMS wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:I want no parts of Igoudala the brick mason.

yeah but you wanted us to trade for Gilbert Arenas? come on bro.

Andre Igoudala is a point forward to me. We need a guy who can knock down shots.

i view him more as a slashing penetrating wing / finisher... if u have Gallo & Shawne Williams on the outside u can afford to have a guy like Iggy slashing to the rim & breaking down defenses... he'd pretty much be doing what Wilson's doing now, only w/better defense on the perimeter & more explosion into the lane... if we can get a guy that can knock down shots on the outside AND bring tough defense then i'm all ears, but who's out there we can realistically target?

From what I've seen he handles the ball ALOT. He also frequently brought the ball up for philly and initiated the offense.

Now if you switched roles to be more of a slasher than I can see that working. I think Andre would beast in Golden State's offense with Curry and Lee.

i think him handling the ball more in Philly was a product of having Lou Williams as their starting PG... i don't recall how he was playing when Dre Miller was in Philly but i'm guessing Miller was the one orchestrating the offense on most possessions... i could be wrong on that but i don't see much of a difficult transition to have Iggy tailor his game to become more of a slashing wing in this offense given the fact we already have an effective orchestrator like Ray Felton starting games.

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12/9/2010  11:24 AM
TMS wrote:
fishmike wrote:As for Camby he would really help us he was made of glass at 26, what about at 36???

Camby only missed 8 games last year & hasn't missed any this year... if u think there are other guys that can get you 12 rebounds & 2 blocks a game out there, feel free to suggest them.

I dont! thats the point! Its really slim pickins when the best you can get is Camby who is a fart away from breaking a hip. It was less a knock on your suggesting then an observation on how limited the options seem. Dont be so paranoid

I thought after we got Amare a good and realistic target would be OK4. He doesnt need the ball, all his scoring is garbage points. He's got a servicable jumper and he's a top flight rebounder and defensive player. Of course it depends on the cost right? The hope is NO tanks and they want to dump his contract. I guess we wait and see.

I am more willing to suck it up this year and try to improve C next year (or just give Mos/AR/Jerome Jordan) more time to develop then I am to break up this core of 6-7 guys who are playing very well together

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12/9/2010  11:34 AM
I really dont see any need for the Knicks to make a trade for Melo this season at all.

Presuming that he is good for the team and would be a smart move, which I am not necessarily convinced is the case, its pretty clear that NYC is where he wants to be.

The more the Knicks win and the more the Nets lose, the better a chance the Knicks get Melo in the offseason. There is no way he signs an extension with NJ if they are horribly under .500.

Regardless, Marc Gasol should still be the target for this team. Last night vs. the Raptors and previously vs. the TWolves showed the need for a defender in the paint. Carmelo is really only a scorer. Between Amare, Felton, Gallo, Chandler and TD scoring is not the issue on this team.
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12/9/2010  11:43 AM
fishmike wrote:
TMS wrote:
fishmike wrote:As for Camby he would really help us he was made of glass at 26, what about at 36???

Camby only missed 8 games last year & hasn't missed any this year... if u think there are other guys that can get you 12 rebounds & 2 blocks a game out there, feel free to suggest them.

I dont! thats the point! Its really slim pickins when the best you can get is Camby who is a fart away from breaking a hip. It was less a knock on your suggesting then an observation on how limited the options seem. Dont be so paranoid

I thought after we got Amare a good and realistic target would be OK4. He doesnt need the ball, all his scoring is garbage points. He's got a servicable jumper and he's a top flight rebounder and defensive player. Of course it depends on the cost right? The hope is NO tanks and they want to dump his contract. I guess we wait and see.

I am more willing to suck it up this year and try to improve C next year (or just give Mos/AR/Jerome Jordan) more time to develop then I am to break up this core of 6-7 guys who are playing very well together

i've always thought OK4 would be a nice complement next to Amare too, but NOH is playing good ball these days & they aren't likely to want to break that up... if they go in the tank then who knows but my guess is they'll want to ADD to their team this year, not subtract.

a C who doesn't need the ball to contribute & plays well off the ball that won't clog up the lane for Amare is the perfect complement... other than Marcus Camby i don't see any others we can realistically target... Sammy Dalembert perhaps is another, but tell u the truth he strikes me as a low bball IQ type player that i'm not sure would be able to grasp this system all that well... on the plus side, he does have an expiring contract, so he's a low risk option if we take him on.

as for breaking up this current group, sure they're playing well now but when they're put up against the elite of the NBA during postseason play they will inevitably need upgrades at certain positions if they want to hope to compete, especially when they'll be seeing the same team night after night over a 7 game stretch, there is no taking a team by surprise... talent usually wins out in a playoff series.

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12/9/2010  11:49 AM
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/09/nuggets-management-figures-out-it-has-to-trade-carmelo-anthony-finally/#comments

Carmelo Anthony wants to go to New York with the Knicks, but they don’t really have quality young players to give, unless you think Anthony Randolph is just about to figure it all out. We’re kind of off that train, but maybe you are still riding it. Denver is off it, too.

epic fail by nbc sportswriter kurt helin.
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12/9/2010  11:51 AM
cheers wrote:http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/09/nuggets-management-figures-out-it-has-to-trade-carmelo-anthony-finally/#comments

Carmelo Anthony wants to go to New York with the Knicks, but they don’t really have quality young players to give, unless you think Anthony Randolph is just about to figure it all out. We’re kind of off that train, but maybe you are still riding it. Denver is off it, too.

epic fail by nbc sportswriter kurt helin.

that animated gif is awesome!

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