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Nalod
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Lets say we are able to pick up a player thru a trade or sign and trade.

Forget who and the price.

One has to go for what ever reason.

Which one do you keep?

Gallo (communities choice)
Wilson (Shy Willie)
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tkf
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12/8/2010  3:24 PM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Both or either.

Chandler and Gallo arent the difference between being a contending or an average team.

with both you have to project. What will they be in a year or 2. They both still getting better by the day.

which is why I chose gallo.. I think his overall skillset projects better.. he can handle, pass, go both ways and finish with either hand.. he had that ability since day one.. where it has taken chandler 4 season to get to the point to where he can take more than a few dribbles and finish moves without bowling defenders over.. I like both, but gallo is my choice and pretty easy..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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tkf
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12/8/2010  3:30 PM
Nalod wrote:Nalod's turn, and yeah its a tough question that obviously has many variables.

My thinking is in a free agent scenario or Melo coming and perhaps a sign and trade. Even though we have curry coming off the books we could sign up Wilson (as negotiated by Nuggs) and this way Melo gets his money, Nuggs get a good player, and TMS gets his wish. Maybe its Marc Gasol, maybe its nobody we even thought of yet.

I like both these guys a lot. Wilson seems to be getting better and better but Gallo just has a skill set that is very unusual and I think he morphs into a power forward that can do what the team needs. Rebound: OK! Handle:OK! Defend:OK! Shoot: all day! Get to the line: OK finish on the break: Ok!

Wilson has this package also but not so much with in the team concept. Gallo is a better passer.

Maybe Sean Williams becomes Wilson "lite" with a better 3 stroke and lower salary demand. If Melo is reality then he can slash. Seems Melo and Wilson have similar skill sets. Melo is better. I'll leave the question: "is he 10 million better?" for another forum at a nother time. From a biz standpoint "Shy" Wilson does not sell seats. I like the quiet cool that he is.

I'd be fine with both but its an arguement if you have to move one.

good post nalod.. and I tend to agree.. the only thing I have backed away from somewhat is asking if a player is "X" dollars better than what we have.. I did the same thing with lee and amare.. and you really get to see the difference now..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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12/8/2010  3:31 PM
Andrew wrote:Tough question, but it does depend on the type of player you get back. If the player you receive back is a 3 pt threat maybe you'd rather give up Gallo. If the incoming is a slasher, maybe you give up Will.

This is the right answer

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12/8/2010  3:34 PM
VDesai wrote:
Andrew wrote:Tough question, but it does depend on the type of player you get back. If the player you receive back is a 3 pt threat maybe you'd rather give up Gallo. If the incoming is a slasher, maybe you give up Will.

This is the right answer

but isn't Will doing both (slashing and 3pt shot) better than Gallo.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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12/8/2010  3:43 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:
VDesai wrote:
Andrew wrote:Tough question, but it does depend on the type of player you get back. If the player you receive back is a 3 pt threat maybe you'd rather give up Gallo. If the incoming is a slasher, maybe you give up Will.

This is the right answer

but isn't Will doing both (slashing and 3pt shot) better than Gallo.

No. Even after a bad start Gallo's 3 % is better.

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12/8/2010  3:45 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
Melo2NYK wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
Vmart wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Wilson isn't a winner, Gallinari is.

Aren't winning at the same rate since they are on the same team.

I'm talking about their mental strength. Gallinari is tough in the brain, his mental is geared to win, to be clutch. Wilson, he ain't about nothin. Gallinari is fearless in the face of danger, like when he took on Melo and squashed him. Wilson would never take on a dragon and face him like that.

Dude, your living in a fantasy world. Melo scored more points than Gallo, shot better than 50% and his team also won the game.

YOU'RE BUGGIN'. Knicks won 109-104, Gallinari dropped 28 with a +12 to Melo's -1.

Gallnari is a team player, a winning player, he has the right attitude, he's got the balls to face the dragon, he won't back down in clutch time.

Ill Wilson, while Ill, is a timid little guy that will never have even a quarter of the fire that burns within Gallo everyday of the year.

Dude, what has Gallinari won exactly? Last I checked we were a lottery team the past two years and he has only been healthy for one. I find it humorous that you can point out Gallinari's 28 points on 39% shooting but fail to consider Carmelo Anthony's 36 points on 54% shooting. The Knicks did win the game but maybe the 6 rebound differential had more to do with that victory than anything Gallo did. More important to this conversation, Melo dropped 50 points on 60% shooting on November 27 of that same season. Guess how much Gallo had? 4 points on 2-10 shooting. Needless to say, Gallinari is not fit to carry Melo's jock-strap, so stop with the nonsense. If I had to choose between Chandler and Gallo, I choose Chandler since his game is much more dynamic and typical of a 6th man on a contender.

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12/8/2010  3:54 PM
Melo2NYK wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
Melo2NYK wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
Vmart wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Wilson isn't a winner, Gallinari is.

Aren't winning at the same rate since they are on the same team.

I'm talking about their mental strength. Gallinari is tough in the brain, his mental is geared to win, to be clutch. Wilson, he ain't about nothin. Gallinari is fearless in the face of danger, like when he took on Melo and squashed him. Wilson would never take on a dragon and face him like that.

Dude, your living in a fantasy world. Melo scored more points than Gallo, shot better than 50% and his team also won the game.

YOU'RE BUGGIN'. Knicks won 109-104, Gallinari dropped 28 with a +12 to Melo's -1.

Gallnari is a team player, a winning player, he has the right attitude, he's got the balls to face the dragon, he won't back down in clutch time.

Ill Wilson, while Ill, is a timid little guy that will never have even a quarter of the fire that burns within Gallo everyday of the year.

Dude, what has Gallinari won exactly? Last I checked we were a lottery team the past two years and he has only been healthy for one. I find it humorous that you can point out Gallinari's 28 points on 39% shooting but fail to consider Carmelo Anthony's 36 points on 54% shooting. The Knicks did win the game but maybe the 6 rebound differential had more to do with that victory than anything Gallo did. More important to this conversation, Melo dropped 50 points on 60% shooting on November 27 of that same season. Guess how much Gallo had? 4 points on 2-10 shooting. Needless to say, Gallinari is not fit to carry Melo's jock-strap, so stop with the nonsense. If I had to choose between Chandler and Gallo, I choose Chandler since his game is much more dynamic and typical of a 6th man on a contender.

You're biased against Gallo. For what reason? I don't know. No one said Gallo = Melo. But who would I rather have on this team? Gallinari, because he's the man.

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12/8/2010  3:54 PM
for some reason i think if Wilson were to beat his chest after every made dunk & showed more emotion on the floor, Knick fans would rate him a lot higher... personally i think he's got the more well rounded game in comparison to Gallo... Wilson has the more well rounded skillset, but Gallo would be MDA's choice w/o a doubt... i think both are worth holding onto but it all depends on the player that's coming in to replace them in the rotation... if we're talking about Melo, i'd probably choose to keep Gallo right now, because his skillset is more complementary to Melo's game (especially if we're also keeping AR, who can bring a lot of what Wilson brought w/his shotblocking & rebounding ability)... Melo works in the midrange game & having a perimeter shooting threat to complement his game would probably be a better fit in this offense... if we're getting a bigman like Gasol this summer, then i think we'd be better off keeping Wilson C.
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12/8/2010  4:31 PM
It would be better to keep them both !! Trade AR and TD first !!!
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12/8/2010  4:34 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
Melo2NYK wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
Melo2NYK wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
Vmart wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Wilson isn't a winner, Gallinari is.

Aren't winning at the same rate since they are on the same team.

I'm talking about their mental strength. Gallinari is tough in the brain, his mental is geared to win, to be clutch. Wilson, he ain't about nothin. Gallinari is fearless in the face of danger, like when he took on Melo and squashed him. Wilson would never take on a dragon and face him like that.

Dude, your living in a fantasy world. Melo scored more points than Gallo, shot better than 50% and his team also won the game.

YOU'RE BUGGIN'. Knicks won 109-104, Gallinari dropped 28 with a +12 to Melo's -1.

Gallnari is a team player, a winning player, he has the right attitude, he's got the balls to face the dragon, he won't back down in clutch time.

Ill Wilson, while Ill, is a timid little guy that will never have even a quarter of the fire that burns within Gallo everyday of the year.

Dude, what has Gallinari won exactly? Last I checked we were a lottery team the past two years and he has only been healthy for one. I find it humorous that you can point out Gallinari's 28 points on 39% shooting but fail to consider Carmelo Anthony's 36 points on 54% shooting. The Knicks did win the game but maybe the 6 rebound differential had more to do with that victory than anything Gallo did. More important to this conversation, Melo dropped 50 points on 60% shooting on November 27 of that same season. Guess how much Gallo had? 4 points on 2-10 shooting. Needless to say, Gallinari is not fit to carry Melo's jock-strap, so stop with the nonsense. If I had to choose between Chandler and Gallo, I choose Chandler since his game is much more dynamic and typical of a 6th man on a contender.

You're biased against Gallo. For what reason? I don't know. No one said Gallo = Melo. But who would I rather have on this team? Gallinari, because he's the man.

So I'm biased but your defense as to why you'd rather have Gallo on the team over Melo is because "he's the man." OOOOOkay!

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12/8/2010  4:44 PM
Vmart wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
Vmart wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Wilson isn't a winner, Gallinari is.

Aren't winning at the same rate since they are on the same team.

I'm talking about their mental strength. Gallinari is tough in the brain, his mental is geared to win, to be clutch. Wilson, he ain't about nothin. Gallinari is fearless in the face of danger, like when he took on Melo and squashed him. Wilson would never take on a dragon and face him like that.

Isn't Gallo's piss poor play related to trade rumors. Some mental toughness shattered by rumors.

It shows Gallo wants to be HERE ........ Obvious

The kid left Milan where he would of been the man mind you to come to NYC
Not Denver or NJ or Minny

That's why Rubio is still in Barcelona

If you ever been to either of those 2 cities you could feel Gallo's pain

You ain't leaving Milan to go to Denver

You would be asking for Pasta dishes and getting egg noodles and Ketchup

That doesn't show mental weakness it shows Gallo wants to stay here!! On the Knicks!!

If I was sent to Denver to work I would be bothered as well..... As would anyone!

I for 1 love that Gallo wants to be a Knick......... BOUT FUKCING TIME someone wants to stay so
bad!!

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12/8/2010  4:48 PM
CHAOS wrote:It would be better to keep them both !! Trade AR and TD first !!!

I like this answer...

We are clicking as a team and yet all I hear is should we trade Gallo

Gallo spreads floor...... Better THEN MELO!!!

Chandler makes under 4 mil a year for Melo's 17 ?

Is Melo 4 times better?

Hell to the NO!!!

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12/8/2010  4:56 PM
Word is bond. He does spread the floor better than Melo, he makes a fraction of the cash money, when you take all these things into account, I would rather have Gallinari, the home grown NINJA that's going to just keep getting better and better. And he has a killer instinct.

In jail we used to say "chill out guy, you ain't got enough time in yet". I want to say that to Melo2NYK, but I won't.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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12/8/2010  5:00 PM
Remember guys, its on or the other.

We can do another poll about other variables but Im just trying to stay this subject on track.

Its interesting to see the contrast.

Just 16 votes so far.

This ain't "sophies choice" for goodness sake.

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12/8/2010  5:08 PM
Nalod wrote:Remember guys, its on or the other.

We can do another poll about other variables but Im just trying to stay this subject on track.

Its interesting to see the contrast.

Just 16 votes so far.

This ain't "sophies choice" for goodness sake.

Should of had 3 options..... 3rd being NONE

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12/8/2010  5:13 PM
orangeblobman wrote:Word is bond. He does spread the floor better than Melo, he makes a fraction of the cash money, when you take all these things into account, I would rather have Gallinari, the home grown NINJA that's going to just keep getting better and better. And he has a killer instinct.

In jail we used to say "chill out guy, you ain't got enough time in yet". I want to say that to Melo2NYK, but I won't.

Cool, cause I don't know what I'd do with myself if you did.

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12/8/2010  5:14 PM
Melo2NYK wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Word is bond. He does spread the floor better than Melo, he makes a fraction of the cash money, when you take all these things into account, I would rather have Gallinari, the home grown NINJA that's going to just keep getting better and better. And he has a killer instinct.

In jail we used to say "chill out guy, you ain't got enough time in yet". I want to say that to Melo2NYK, but I won't.

Cool, cause I don't know what I'd do with myself if you did.

Chill out guy, you ain't got enough time in yet.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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12/8/2010  5:18 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
Melo2NYK wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Word is bond. He does spread the floor better than Melo, he makes a fraction of the cash money, when you take all these things into account, I would rather have Gallinari, the home grown NINJA that's going to just keep getting better and better. And he has a killer instinct.

In jail we used to say "chill out guy, you ain't got enough time in yet". I want to say that to Melo2NYK, but I won't.

Cool, cause I don't know what I'd do with myself if you did.

Chill out guy, you ain't got enough time in yet.

LOL.

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12/8/2010  5:59 PM
Gallo is more important to us and it is a no-brainer. He is harder to replace with his shooting ability, and on this team it is especially important.
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12/8/2010  6:13 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Here is the answer--Chandler is playing a perfect role since they moved to 4-1 I dont think you could do that much better in a team game. Now if Gallo can just get back to what he was doing on the road trip--meaning getting fouled and moving in and out--the answer is none.

The best answer i've seen. We speak about complementary pieces, and we don't have to scour the league, we already have them. One work form outside in, the other just works. Let's table this discussion until the month is over. Now that our guys have a higher comfort level, I'm eager to see how they match up to these "elite" teams.

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