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AnubisADL
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12/8/2010  2:09 PM
nixluva wrote:Being the huge D'Antoni proponent that I am, I can remember how so many people were saying that Avery was gonna have the Nets playing better than the Knicks and he was really the coach we should've gone after. Avery was supposed to be the vocal, in your face leader this team needed as opposed to the non confrontational, soft touch MDA.

I don't even think the Nets talent is bad! I think they've got some guys that should be able to play better BB than they have. It's a very young team, but they've got some talent. Eventually they'll get it together, but I just don't wanna hear how amazing Avery is and how he's such a better coach than Mike.

The Nets dont have an Amare. Amare has been essentially carrying this team in the 4th quarter to close out games.

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12/8/2010  2:24 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
nixluva wrote:Being the huge D'Antoni proponent that I am, I can remember how so many people were saying that Avery was gonna have the Nets playing better than the Knicks and he was really the coach we should've gone after. Avery was supposed to be the vocal, in your face leader this team needed as opposed to the non confrontational, soft touch MDA.

I don't even think the Nets talent is bad! I think they've got some guys that should be able to play better BB than they have. It's a very young team, but they've got some talent. Eventually they'll get it together, but I just don't wanna hear how amazing Avery is and how he's such a better coach than Mike.

The Nets dont have an Amare. Amare has been essentially carrying this team in the 4th quarter to close out games.


The Nets have Brook Lopez! There aren't even many C's in the league that should be able to stop him if he's doing the right things. I guarantee you that Mike would find a way to maximize what Brook can do if he had him.

Yeah and still many people felt the Nets were gonna be better due to the Talent they had and Avery being the coach. He was supposed to pull it all together. People have to at least acknowledge that Mike made the adjustments and kept working with his players until they got the spacing and PnR down and that is maximizing what Amar'e is able to do. it's not an accident what is happening. The entire team and staff have pulled together to get things right.

When Amar'e was forcing things and guys were bumping into each other, who is it that gets them squared away? The Coach does that. The players don't figure all of that out on their own. The coaches are the ones that pour over the game films and instruct the players on what's going wrong and how to fix it.

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12/8/2010  2:24 PM
Thats the number one thing that annoyed me over the summer- fair enough if the media wanted to insult the Knicks, but it was the fact that they were hyping up the Nets at the same time, it was ridiculous. And then once Lebron was gone, they started pulling the same cr*p about the Nets being a better location for Melo.

Also I think Avery was the wrong choice of coach for that team- if he grated on a vetran, winning team like Dallas so quickly, I think he's going to wear out his welcome even faster with a team like the Nets who may take years to start winning.

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12/8/2010  8:46 PM
I'll man up: I thought the Nets would be much better than they are, boy was I wrong. I was at that Celtics game with my buddy a Nets fan and it was brutal.
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12/9/2010  11:02 AM
I never understood the whole nets thing. They won 12 games!!!!!!!!
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12/9/2010  4:32 PM
Bippity10 wrote:I never understood the whole nets thing. They won 12 games!!!!!!!!

yeah but it's Rod Thorn dude... ROD THORN MAN! come on... they HAVE to be better than us, don't they?

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12/9/2010  4:42 PM
Bippity10 wrote:I never understood the whole nets thing. They won 12 games!!!!!!!!

What killed me is that we kept our best young players and replaced Lee with Amar'e. Duhon with Felton and we added some size. If that team last year could eek out 29 wins, surely this team could do much better. How were the Nets supposed to leap frog us given that info. What exactly did the Nets do aside from hire Avery?
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12/9/2010  5:11 PM
nixluva wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:I never understood the whole nets thing. They won 12 games!!!!!!!!

What killed me is that we kept our best young players and replaced Lee with Amar'e. Duhon with Felton and we added some size. If that team last year could eek out 29 wins, surely this team could do much better. How were the Nets supposed to leap frog us given that info. What exactly did the Nets do aside from hire Avery?

Assessment from many of my unbiased friends
1.) Amare is no better then David Lee. No matter how many times I said that I watched every Knick game and tried to get across that David was not a star and our 3rd or 4th option in crunch time and that Amare was a beast, I was an idiot

2.) They preached about the great Net youth. When I asked who was great they said Brook Lopez, Terrence Williams, poor passing always injured PG boy, hasn't done anything draft boy. When I said what about Chandler, Gallinari, Douglas, Randolph, Mozgov and Landry Fields(this was after I saw him in summer league), they would just raise their voices and laugh and say "who? who?" loud enough to drown me out

3.) Amare was only good because of Nash

4.) Felton is a below average PG who will be boo'd out of NY.

5.) When I pointed out that the Nets won 12 games and added role players, while we won 29, subtracted garbage and added a superstar and all the other guys, they said....You should have kept Lee.

6.) The Knicks sucka nd would win 25 games

In all seriousness Bip is not one for I told you so's. Really I'm not. But I was so wounded by the attacks I got from everyone I knew that I am relentless now. I tried to convince them that I have watched more NBa basketball last year then they have the last 10 and that I know far more then they did. They called me a homer. I have not forgotten this and am currently torturing each and every one of them. I have been so relentless that I have recieved at least 3 apologies. 3 more to go!!!

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12/9/2010  5:53 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:I never understood the whole nets thing. They won 12 games!!!!!!!!

What killed me is that we kept our best young players and replaced Lee with Amar'e. Duhon with Felton and we added some size. If that team last year could eek out 29 wins, surely this team could do much better. How were the Nets supposed to leap frog us given that info. What exactly did the Nets do aside from hire Avery?

Assessment from many of my unbiased friends
1.) Amare is no better then David Lee. No matter how many times I said that I watched every Knick game and tried to get across that David was not a star and our 3rd or 4th option in crunch time and that Amare was a beast, I was an idiot

2.) They preached about the great Net youth. When I asked who was great they said Brook Lopez, Terrence Williams, poor passing always injured PG boy, hasn't done anything draft boy. When I said what about Chandler, Gallinari, Douglas, Randolph, Mozgov and Landry Fields(this was after I saw him in summer league), they would just raise their voices and laugh and say "who? who?" loud enough to drown me out

3.) Amare was only good because of Nash

4.) Felton is a below average PG who will be boo'd out of NY.

5.) When I pointed out that the Nets won 12 games and added role players, while we won 29, subtracted garbage and added a superstar and all the other guys, they said....You should have kept Lee.

6.) The Knicks sucka nd would win 25 games

In all seriousness Bip is not one for I told you so's. Really I'm not. But I was so wounded by the attacks I got from everyone I knew that I am relentless now. I tried to convince them that I have watched more NBa basketball last year then they have the last 10 and that I know far more then they did. They called me a homer. I have not forgotten this and am currently torturing each and every one of them. I have been so relentless that I have recieved at least 3 apologies. 3 more to go!!!

being wrong about Mike Sweetney being the next Elton Brand has made you into a bitter, bitter man Bip.

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12/10/2010  10:43 AM
Bippity10 wrote:I never understood the whole nets thing. They won 12 games!!!!!!!!

Exactly. No matter how you spin it's really hard to call any player on a team that only (and barely) puts together 12 wins in a season as good, let alone great. The best player on team winning 12 games, who wants him?

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12/10/2010  10:45 AM
nixluva wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:I never understood the whole nets thing. They won 12 games!!!!!!!!

What killed me is that we kept our best young players and replaced Lee with Amar'e. Duhon with Felton and we added some size. If that team last year could eek out 29 wins, surely this team could do much better. How were the Nets supposed to leap frog us given that info. What exactly did the Nets do aside from hire Avery?

You forgot the monster that is Favors. I'd bet Avery is now think, "don't do me any Favors". He's young and has nothing but time to improve, but he's completely unimpressive. People are still saying that the Nets roster is more appealing to the Nuggets. If this is true, the Nuggets must be really dumb.

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12/10/2010  11:18 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/10/2010  11:18 AM
grillco wrote:People are still saying that the Nets roster is more appealing to the Nuggets. If this is true, the Nuggets must be really dumb.

They're saying that b/c it's not the Knicks.

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12/10/2010  11:35 AM
TMS wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:I never understood the whole nets thing. They won 12 games!!!!!!!!

What killed me is that we kept our best young players and replaced Lee with Amar'e. Duhon with Felton and we added some size. If that team last year could eek out 29 wins, surely this team could do much better. How were the Nets supposed to leap frog us given that info. What exactly did the Nets do aside from hire Avery?

Assessment from many of my unbiased friends
1.) Amare is no better then David Lee. No matter how many times I said that I watched every Knick game and tried to get across that David was not a star and our 3rd or 4th option in crunch time and that Amare was a beast, I was an idiot

2.) They preached about the great Net youth. When I asked who was great they said Brook Lopez, Terrence Williams, poor passing always injured PG boy, hasn't done anything draft boy. When I said what about Chandler, Gallinari, Douglas, Randolph, Mozgov and Landry Fields(this was after I saw him in summer league), they would just raise their voices and laugh and say "who? who?" loud enough to drown me out

3.) Amare was only good because of Nash

4.) Felton is a below average PG who will be boo'd out of NY.

5.) When I pointed out that the Nets won 12 games and added role players, while we won 29, subtracted garbage and added a superstar and all the other guys, they said....You should have kept Lee.

6.) The Knicks sucka nd would win 25 games

In all seriousness Bip is not one for I told you so's. Really I'm not. But I was so wounded by the attacks I got from everyone I knew that I am relentless now. I tried to convince them that I have watched more NBa basketball last year then they have the last 10 and that I know far more then they did. They called me a homer. I have not forgotten this and am currently torturing each and every one of them. I have been so relentless that I have recieved at least 3 apologies. 3 more to go!!!

being wrong about Mike Sweetney being the next Elton Brand has made you into a bitter, bitter man Bip.

That was nearly a decade ago and yet in a decade that is the only miss of Bips that anyoen can point to. I stand by my record.

And I did say title of play

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12/14/2010  10:05 AM
Still all this talk of NJ having the best deal for Denver. I still don't see it at all. The Knicks have great cheap young talent continuing to develop and prove its worth. The Nets still suck regardless of how great the supposed talent is. I get why they want the picks, but guys like Chandler, Gallo, and Fields will fill a good amount of any void left by Melo's departure, while Favors is still learning the pro-game, which doesn't always take regardless of how high you are drafted. Sorry to resurrect the dead, but I'm still baffled.
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12/14/2010  10:12 AM
Bippity10 wrote:I never understood the whole nets thing. They won 12 games!!!!!!!!

added a bunch of guys that wouldn't start on many teams yet, guys like Barkley had then IN THE PLAYOFFS over NY.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
Remember all those folks talking about how much better the Nets were than the Knicks for LeBron and Melo...

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