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JohnWallace44
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12/3/2010  11:39 AM
fitzfarm wrote:johnwallace44 are you seriously going to base a players ability over the 9 games we lost....thats like saying starks was not a good baller becouse he was streaky and didnt perform well in losses... a loss is a loss no matter how you look at it and basketball is a team sport. the fact is we have a 22 year old kid that has potential all star written all over him will he become a all star we will find out.... look at the mayor, you should never throw a 22 year old under the bus... WC at 23 is proving alot of people here wrong that lost patience with him last year at 22.

Gallo - 22% in our losses
Ray Allen - 27% in Celtics losses
JRich - 35% in Suns losses
DWright - 26% in GState losses

Bring something other than "potential all star written all over him." Fans of any other team would laugh at that. He's just not the player we all want him to be at this point. He needs to bring a more diversified game so that when he's off it doesn't result in an automatic loss.

Wait until we (hopefully) are in a playoff series. If he goes 3-13, how important is that game to you? Do you ever want to win 60 games? How do you manage to win consistently when he has so many games in him like that? I'd just rather have more of a consistent player.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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12/3/2010  11:49 AM
The post was to show EVEN while struggling........ Gallo is still playing well!

Gallo is not our GO TO GUY Amare is......... Gallo doesn't touch ball every time down
Felton does. Gallo is not our second option so far it's been Chandler...

Yet despite that Gallo is still closer to the top of made 3's then he is to the bottom.

And there are only 10 players in all the NBA who have made FT's

Yet peeps are all about blaming him for some of loses!......

Just Dumb!!

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12/3/2010  11:52 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:How does he have an unlimited ceiling? The guy is statistically a streaky, average shooter.

In our losses this year, Gallo is shooting a frigid 8-36 (22%).

How's that for a "great baller"?

and scoring 19ppg and 46FG% in 10 wins... if your breaking it down that Gallo's been pretty key in the wins as well as the losses
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12/3/2010  12:01 PM
If you listen to interview on Mike the Mad Dog he said That what he believes is
Gallo was bothered by trade rumors.......

If that is the case it just shows how much he wants to STAY here.....

Kid is a passion only makes sense if he got off to a rough start which he did for it
to play with his head. ..... Shows he is human!!

Yet has still been a vital piece to our wins......

He has had a bad start to the year but stats show he is still even while playing bad he is
PRODUCTIVE

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12/3/2010  12:30 PM
umynot wrote:The post was to show EVEN while struggling........ Gallo is still playing well!

Gallo is not our GO TO GUY Amare is......... Gallo doesn't touch ball every time down
Felton does. Gallo is not our second option so far it's been Chandler...

Yet despite that Gallo is still closer to the top of made 3's then he is to the bottom.

And there are only 10 players in all the NBA who have made FT's

Yet peeps are all about blaming him for some of loses!......

Just Dumb!!

Dude went 2-10 from deep in Denver and we lost by 2 points. Could we have used those possessions better?

He needs to shoot closer to 40% and more consistently from three in order to have the defense really stretch toward him. Otherwise the defense doesn't care if he shoots from out there and it doesn't help the team's offense.

He's 7th on the team in assists and 3rd in minutes. I just think he's got to give you more than he is if he's going to be inconsistent as a shooter.

...if you don't care about getting better than the 7th seed in the East then Gallo's great because he'll probably lose you 20 games you should have won. If you're a 30 win team, he probably won you half of those games. I thought we were trying to get to the next level this year. Some fans are obviously still stuck in a Marbury era mentality.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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12/3/2010  12:34 PM
Amare has had some bad games as well......

Everyone does...

And I know Gallo has struggled it was my whole point!

He IS STRUGGLING ......

Yet he is still towards top in NBA in 3's and FT's made

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12/3/2010  12:37 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:
umynot wrote:The post was to show EVEN while struggling........ Gallo is still playing well!

Gallo is not our GO TO GUY Amare is......... Gallo doesn't touch ball every time down
Felton does. Gallo is not our second option so far it's been Chandler...

Yet despite that Gallo is still closer to the top of made 3's then he is to the bottom.

And there are only 10 players in all the NBA who have made FT's

Yet peeps are all about blaming him for some of loses!......

Just Dumb!!

Dude went 2-10 from deep in Denver and we lost by 2 points. Could we have used those possessions better?

He needs to shoot closer to 40% and more consistently from three in order to have the defense really stretch toward him. Otherwise the defense doesn't care if he shoots from out there and it doesn't help the team's offense.

He's 7th on the team in assists and 3rd in minutes. I just think he's got to give you more than he is if he's going to be inconsistent as a shooter.

...if you don't care about getting better than the 7th seed in the East then Gallo's great because he'll probably lose you 20 games you should have won. If you're a 30 win team, he probably won you half of those games. I thought we were trying to get to the next level this year. Some fans are obviously still stuck in a Marbury era mentality.

I want to win....... IT ALL

I just believe that Gallo will help you get there...... He has come out the gate slow but so did Felton

Gallo for 4th option is near top in 3's made 11th in FT's made 3rd in FT %

In NBA not on Knicks

Gallo hate is what is stupid...... Not that he has struggled I admit he has not played
to his potential

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12/3/2010  12:39 PM
Its Gallo's third year, only second really full year.

I think we have to give him some more time before passing judgement.

The fact is, he has talent- he's shown it numerous times.

Way too inconsistent. Some of that, though, has to be on the coaches in trying to harness him and make sure they run enough plays & touchs for him.

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12/3/2010  12:40 PM
How quick we forget that Gallinari went bucket for bucket with Melo last year in a Knicks win. He faced the dragon and he wasn't afraid. This guy, his biggest asset is his winning-mind, he has the requisite fortitude to be a key part of our championship run.
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12/3/2010  12:40 PM
This could just be a phase. The guys is still very young, tho some don't want to look at that. He is no where near his prime yet and who knows how the rest of the season will go for him. He may just figure it all out and get hot for the rest of the season. We don't know. what I do know is that you don't get all fed up with a kid that is only 22 and basically in his 2nd full season of playing in the NBA!

He's showed some good signs of being more aggressive which is one of his biggest issues along with the way he's been shooting from distance. I haven't liked his form on his 3's. As others have mentioned the shot looks flatter than in the past and also his balance seems off on many shots. I think he needs to slow his motion down just a touch. Sometimes he looks like he's just throwing the ball up. Thing is tho if he drives more, it basically solves most of his issues, cuz he draws fouls.

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12/3/2010  12:44 PM
orangeblobman wrote:How quick we forget that Gallinari went bucket for bucket with Melo last year in a Knicks win. He faced the dragon and he wasn't afraid. This guy, his biggest asset is his winning-mind, he has the requisite fortitude to be a key part of our championship run.

Nicely said...... Welcome back btw!!

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12/3/2010  12:46 PM
Thanks man, yea, Gallo is a winner.
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12/3/2010  12:50 PM
orangeblobman wrote:How quick we forget that Gallinari went bucket for bucket with Melo last year in a Knicks win. He faced the dragon and he wasn't afraid. This guy, his biggest asset is his winning-mind, he has the requisite fortitude to be a key part of our championship run.

This is what I mean by the Marbury era mentality.

You take one game where a player was great and ignore the others where he clearly lost you the game and use that as your evidence that he's key to a championship. You cannot win a title with a player like that as a main guy because he's going to cost you a game in every series and its tough to survive and advance that way.

If you want to have a 30 win team, Gallo can get hot in 15 of them and win the games by himself. If you want to win 41+... now the math gets difficult to have a guy who has all of those cold shooting nights and doesn't really bring much else as a main guy on your team.

How many nights does Fisher go 3-13? How many nights does Allen do that?

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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12/3/2010  12:51 PM
orangeblobman wrote:Thanks man, yea, Gallo is a winner.

He will get better as the year goes and haters will start doing moonwalk!

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12/3/2010  12:59 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:How quick we forget that Gallinari went bucket for bucket with Melo last year in a Knicks win. He faced the dragon and he wasn't afraid. This guy, his biggest asset is his winning-mind, he has the requisite fortitude to be a key part of our championship run.

This is what I mean by the Marbury era mentality.

You take one game where a player was great and ignore the others where he clearly lost you the game and use that as your evidence that he's key to a championship. You cannot win a title with a player like that as a main guy because he's going to cost you a game in every series and its tough to survive and advance that way.

If you want to have a 30 win team, Gallo can get hot in 15 of them and win the games by himself. If you want to win 41+... now the math gets difficult to have a guy who has all of those cold shooting nights and doesn't really bring much else as a main guy on your team.

How many nights does Fisher go 3-13? How many nights does Allen do that?

Actually if you check Ray Allen stats he has plenty of games where he shoots 3 for 13

Shooters have off nights...... But if your comparing Gallo to Ray Allen I already Know we got the goods!

No one wants to continue losing bro believe me

While we were struggling and lost 6 in row Gallo was most def part of the problem NO DOUBT!!
But so was Amare he had an 8 TO game and a 9 TO game.....
Felton was playing bad as well!!....

TD shot much worse then Gallo...... Chandler was quite as well!

But since we been playing better Gallo has been a part of the solution!

And he WILL ONLY GET BETTER!!

He has proved to be both Clutch and now he is learning metal toughness while his shot is a little off!!

You want Melo yet Melo would need ball 3 times as much and get to the line less then Gallo btw

Melo is first option on his team Gallo at best 3rd on ours!!

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12/3/2010  1:01 PM
Am I missing something? Has Gallo been playing poorly???

Over the last 20 games Gallo, Wilson, Amare and Felton have all been extremely consistent. All of them have had poor shooting moments but have made up for it by playing good ball in other areas. When Gallo had a horrible defensive game he hit 2 huge threes in overtime. I guess I'm not sure what we are complaining about. Is it that he is not Dirk?

He's not shooting well. So we ask him to get to the line. The last 12 games he's getting to the line 8 times a game. This is exactly what we have asked him to do and he's doing it. Why are we complaining?

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12/3/2010  1:01 PM
if only we had
jerryd bayless then we'd win
hmmm... no... maybe not
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12/3/2010  1:03 PM
We have a solid mix here. Stoudemire is a go to guy. Gallo is a shooter that spreads the floor for Amare. Wilson is a slasher/mid-range guy that does teh inbetween stuff. They are all filling their roles wonderfully right now.
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12/3/2010  1:10 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:How quick we forget that Gallinari went bucket for bucket with Melo last year in a Knicks win. He faced the dragon and he wasn't afraid. This guy, his biggest asset is his winning-mind, he has the requisite fortitude to be a key part of our championship run.

This is what I mean by the Marbury era mentality.

You take one game where a player was great and ignore the others where he clearly lost you the game and use that as your evidence that he's key to a championship. You cannot win a title with a player like that as a main guy because he's going to cost you a game in every series and its tough to survive and advance that way.

If you want to have a 30 win team, Gallo can get hot in 15 of them and win the games by himself. If you want to win 41+... now the math gets difficult to have a guy who has all of those cold shooting nights and doesn't really bring much else as a main guy on your team.

How many nights does Fisher go 3-13? How many nights does Allen do that?

To answer your question

Ray Allen has 4 games under 40%
Fisher has 8 games under 40%
Gallo has 11 games under 40%

No doubt he is inconsistent. NO doubt he needs to improve his consistency. At 22 good chance he will eventually. All I ask of the guy right now at 22 is not to settle. When he isn't shooting well drive to the basket. Judging by the fact that he's getting to the line 8 times a night in the last 12 games he's doing exactly that.

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12/3/2010  1:13 PM
Nalod wrote:Gallo is our KVH and we will never be happy with him. Even when he is good we think not.


But Gallo doesn't turn the ball over every time he touches it --- can defend certain match-ups and isn't a Dunder Headed Lumux.

Outside of that -- yes -- he may be our Keith Van Horn ----- but lets hope not please.

Gallo 12th in NBA......

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