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12/2/2010  11:00 AM
If we were able to get Lebron they probably would have traded Lee for a different package to compliment his skills(or kept him) so it's difficult to say what we would have had or not.
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12/2/2010  11:02 AM
Bippity10 wrote:If we were able to get Lebron they probably would have traded Lee for a different package to compliment his skills(or kept him) so it's difficult to say what we would have had or not.

I read one report that Lee would have been headed to PHX for Amare if Lebron signed.

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12/2/2010  11:12 AM
I really underestimated Amare's leadership ability. I wouldn't want LBJ now. We have a real leader and a team spirit. Glad we don't have any divas on this team. I like where this thing is going. Maybe it won't get there as fast as some would like...be we are on the right track. LBJ is the wrong kind of leader....sorry, just not NY enough for me.
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12/2/2010  11:22 AM
I love these chicken and egg conversations. Amare's now a monster, so we just add LeBillionaire and voila! 73 game winning streak. Does Lebron come here, if we didn't get Amare first?, and since he didn't come here with Amare here first, why the heck would he come here without Amare?
Does Amare become this great monstrous thing if he's standing in sets waiting for LBJ to do his thing? Or would we all be typing about Stat not knowing when to take over, he's out of his element without a true Allstar PG, blah blah blah.

I'm dying to peer into this forum 2 years from now, when we're all possibly typing in threads entitled "LBJ - the NBA's highest priced cancer?" & "Big Flee Flop"

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12/2/2010  11:58 AM
CHAOS wrote:He was on Mike and Mike just now and stated that the Knicks is much better then anyone thought and Amare is much better than Bosh. He also stated that if LBJ would have signed with Knicks, they may have won the title this year because Knicks have great role playerts.

Having lebron and amare would have been great, but of course we wouldn't have Felton and Turiaf. What i'm wondering is, if people now see the addition of lebron and amare plus the Knicks role players as a contending team, than how close can a team without lebron but instead Melo, Felton, and Turiaf be to winning a championship. Lebron is obviously much better than Melo (who is still top-10), but we are talking about Felton who has been playing at an all-star level, and Turiaf, who has been a great defensive big man for us. To say Amare and Lebron equals championships, but Amare, Melo, Felton, and Turiaf is nowhere near is crazy. I would think we would only be a move or two away from competing for a title. The east should be wide open next year for us if we get Melo.
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12/2/2010  1:15 PM
This guy is just trying to make NY like him again. He is the same guy that said the KNicks don't have enough talent for LeBron. Now he is saying they would have been perfect. Please, this guy is a turd who is trying to get back in favor with Knicks fans.
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12/2/2010  1:34 PM
Bosh is not as bad as some make him out to be, he would have much better #s had it just been him and wade. Stat wise, he would be right there with amare, impact wise...well thats another story. Also, you take out LBJ's contract, keep beasly and had better fron court help, and there the lakers of the east.

LJB and Amare, would have made the eastern conference much more entertaining, with boston, miami, ny, orlando all lagit title contenders.

All these critics kept saying Nj, Chicago had better talent...REALLY..rose is no different from wade, which is why he didn't go there..

The bandwaggon is loading up Uk fam... if we keep winning, and guys keep developing and fitting into there roles nicely, the cards will be in our favor.

Remember James Posey snug fit in boston, and his disaster season after bouncing for the $.

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12/2/2010  1:46 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Bosh is not as bad as some make him out to be, he would have much better #s had it just been him and wade. Stat wise, he would be right there with amare, impact wise...well thats another story. Also, you take out LBJ's contract, keep beasly and had better fron court help, and there the lakers of the east.

LJB and Amare, would have made the eastern conference much more entertaining, with boston, miami, ny, orlando all lagit title contenders.

All these critics kept saying Nj, Chicago had better talent...REALLY..rose is no different from wade, which is why he didn't go there..

The bandwaggon is loading up Uk fam... if we keep winning, and guys keep developing and fitting into there roles nicely, the cards will be in our favor.

Remember James Posey snug fit in boston, and his disaster season after bouncing for the $.

I think that you just implied that if they remove perhaps the best player in the NBA from the team, they would be better. Like it.

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12/2/2010  2:25 PM
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Bosh is not as bad as some make him out to be, he would have much better #s had it just been him and wade. Stat wise, he would be right there with amare, impact wise...well thats another story. Also, you take out LBJ's contract, keep beasly and had better fron court help, and there the lakers of the east.

LJB and Amare, would have made the eastern conference much more entertaining, with boston, miami, ny, orlando all lagit title contenders.

All these critics kept saying Nj, Chicago had better talent...REALLY..rose is no different from wade, which is why he didn't go there..

The bandwaggon is loading up Uk fam... if we keep winning, and guys keep developing and fitting into there roles nicely, the cards will be in our favor.

Remember James Posey snug fit in boston, and his disaster season after bouncing for the $.

I think that you just implied that if they remove perhaps the best player in the NBA from the team, they would be better. Like it.

Yeah, I think that points to the big problem with Miami right now - other than total lack of depth after the big three - Wade's ego.

Wade needs to let Lebron run the offense through him. It's the only way it'll work. Wade needs to swallow some pride here. He wanted these guys on his team, it's on him to make it work.

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12/2/2010  2:28 PM
and, to the point of the thread - **** Broussard. he was actively CAMPAIGNING against lebron signing with the knicks. actively.

what, the bulls wouldn't be a good match now? because of what everyone knew? DRose is a ball dominant guard and it makes no sense for Lebron to play with another ball dominant guard like Wade or DRose?

NY actually made sense for Lebron for many reasons. No one, NO ONE, on ESPN (other than maybe Sports Guy) ever suggested he should come to NY. Ever.

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12/2/2010  3:18 PM
You know, it seems ever since that youtube video appeared in which some people went up to Chris Brussard and asked why he hated the Knicks, he's turned over a new leaf and started writing some pretty positive stuff about us- for some reason it seems like that encounter changed him- bizzare!

I agree that we greatly under estimated Amar'e- honestly when the free agency began, I wasn't even remotely interested in him and was hoping we'd sign Bosh- ha ha! I couldn't have been more wrong- can you imagine how quickly Bosh would have crumpled after a shakey start? Yeah, I worry about Amar'es health in the long term, but so far his attitude alone has really helped turn this team around.

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12/2/2010  3:30 PM
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Bosh is not as bad as some make him out to be, he would have much better #s had it just been him and wade. Stat wise, he would be right there with amare, impact wise...well thats another story. Also, you take out LBJ's contract, keep beasly and had better fron court help, and there the lakers of the east.

LJB and Amare, would have made the eastern conference much more entertaining, with boston, miami, ny, orlando all lagit title contenders.

All these critics kept saying Nj, Chicago had better talent...REALLY..rose is no different from wade, which is why he didn't go there..

The bandwaggon is loading up Uk fam... if we keep winning, and guys keep developing and fitting into there roles nicely, the cards will be in our favor.

Remember James Posey snug fit in boston, and his disaster season after bouncing for the $.

I think that you just implied that if they remove perhaps the best player in the NBA from the team, they would be better. Like it.

chemistry and roles, matter more then talent any day of the week, just ask, ben gordan, james posey, hedo, ben wallace..not to mention the point and time of a player's career..

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12/2/2010  3:32 PM
crzymdups wrote:
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Bosh is not as bad as some make him out to be, he would have much better #s had it just been him and wade. Stat wise, he would be right there with amare, impact wise...well thats another story. Also, you take out LBJ's contract, keep beasly and had better fron court help, and there the lakers of the east.

LJB and Amare, would have made the eastern conference much more entertaining, with boston, miami, ny, orlando all lagit title contenders.

All these critics kept saying Nj, Chicago had better talent...REALLY..rose is no different from wade, which is why he didn't go there..

The bandwaggon is loading up Uk fam... if we keep winning, and guys keep developing and fitting into there roles nicely, the cards will be in our favor.

Remember James Posey snug fit in boston, and his disaster season after bouncing for the $.

I think that you just implied that if they remove perhaps the best player in the NBA from the team, they would be better. Like it.

Yeah, I think that points to the big problem with Miami right now - other than total lack of depth after the big three - Wade's ego.

Wade needs to let Lebron run the offense through him. It's the only way it'll work. Wade needs to swallow some pride here. He wanted these guys on his team, it's on him to make it work.

Wade and bron never ever played off the ball, now smack dead in the middle of there prime, your asking them to change the way they have been playing there whole life....right

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12/2/2010  3:41 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Bosh is not as bad as some make him out to be, he would have much better #s had it just been him and wade. Stat wise, he would be right there with amare, impact wise...well thats another story. Also, you take out LBJ's contract, keep beasly and had better fron court help, and there the lakers of the east.

LJB and Amare, would have made the eastern conference much more entertaining, with boston, miami, ny, orlando all lagit title contenders.

All these critics kept saying Nj, Chicago had better talent...REALLY..rose is no different from wade, which is why he didn't go there..

The bandwaggon is loading up Uk fam... if we keep winning, and guys keep developing and fitting into there roles nicely, the cards will be in our favor.

Remember James Posey snug fit in boston, and his disaster season after bouncing for the $.

I think that you just implied that if they remove perhaps the best player in the NBA from the team, they would be better. Like it.

Yeah, I think that points to the big problem with Miami right now - other than total lack of depth after the big three - Wade's ego.

Wade needs to let Lebron run the offense through him. It's the only way it'll work. Wade needs to swallow some pride here. He wanted these guys on his team, it's on him to make it work.

Wade and bron never ever played off the ball, now smack dead in the middle of there prime, your asking them to change the way they have been playing there whole life....right

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12/2/2010  3:56 PM
ITs Bosh here not Amare. And complextion is much differnt.

PUt Lebron on this team its great, but this is not the team he would be on.

Things work for a reason.

In donnie we trust.

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12/2/2010  5:19 PM
After thinking about this for a bit, I came to one conclusion that amused me.

If Chris Broussard is saying the one place Lebron should have gone to be a title contender is New York... where do you think Carmelo Anthony is thinking about going - given he plays the same position as Lebron?

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12/2/2010  5:30 PM
crzymdups wrote:After thinking about this for a bit, I came to one conclusion that amused me.

If Chris Broussard is saying the one place Lebron should have gone to be a title contender is New York... where do you think Carmelo Anthony is thinking about going - given he plays the same position as Lebron?

(seriously) i think melo's decision rests in the bossom of his wife. she wants to have a career again, her husband in orange-and-blue will make that happen. happy wife happy life.

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12/2/2010  5:33 PM
crzymdups wrote:After thinking about this for a bit, I came to one conclusion that amused me.

If Chris Broussard is saying the one place Lebron should have gone to be a title contender is New York... where do you think Carmelo Anthony is thinking about going - given he plays the same position as Lebron?

.............good point, but not in a value to value trade. He either comes via free agency or Denver relents to get some value and we give them some save face value.

Im not saying im in favor of one vs another, but its fun to think of melo on this team, not one that does not 2-3 core role players.

I'd like to think Melo buys into the system even if he loses stats. everyone gets easy shots when it opens up.

I'd like to think Melo can make Gallo better. Or Wilson better. Or Fields better and of course AMare better.

Im a fan. I know Melo is better than anyone besides Amare, but bringing in Talent in exchange for talent is not always a plus situation. Be better if he came aboard a team with a chemeistry. Felton and Amare are the Alpha dogs and Melo would have to earn his stripes. Its healthier than Starphuching which annoints the players status before he has earned it.

If no Melo we got lots of options to both improve internally and cap to bring in. ALso we have assets to sign and trade with.

In Donnie we trust.

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12/2/2010  5:41 PM
Nalod wrote:
crzymdups wrote:After thinking about this for a bit, I came to one conclusion that amused me.

If Chris Broussard is saying the one place Lebron should have gone to be a title contender is New York... where do you think Carmelo Anthony is thinking about going - given he plays the same position as Lebron?

.............good point, but not in a value to value trade. He either comes via free agency or Denver relents to get some value and we give them some save face value.

Im not saying im in favor of one vs another, but its fun to think of melo on this team, not one that does not 2-3 core role players.

I'd like to think Melo buys into the system even if he loses stats. everyone gets easy shots when it opens up.

I'd like to think Melo can make Gallo better. Or Wilson better. Or Fields better and of course AMare better.

Im a fan. I know Melo is better than anyone besides Amare, but bringing in Talent in exchange for talent is not always a plus situation. Be better if he came aboard a team with a chemeistry. Felton and Amare are the Alpha dogs and Melo would have to earn his stripes. Its healthier than Starphuching which annoints the players status before he has earned it.

If no Melo we got lots of options to both improve internally and cap to bring in. ALso we have assets to sign and trade with.

In Donnie we trust.

If Melo came here via free agency and all of a sudden you had Wilson and Gallo off your bench??? That's a scary line-up

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12/2/2010  5:43 PM

melo's two top advisors, he's listening to both right now, they saying new york new york.

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