Knixkik wrote:

Vmart wrote:I'm all for keeping Chandler as far as Gallo to inconsistent for my liking. Best way is to trade Gallo for Melo and hope he signs an extention. Chandler can be resigned with bird rights. Once the core is set the Knicks have to go over the cap threshold that is always a given for any team that has star players. Lakers are over and I believe Celtics are over the cap too. MDA has to get Randolph going I blame him for Mozgov and Randolph taking a step back. Its pretty obvious MDA doesn't work well with legit center types. I thought Randolph would be ideal in his system he has to get more out of AR. AR has to step up too, he can be small on the court because that is what he does when he tries to be a PG. He needs to play like a PF/C and leave that other ball handling stuff to his sg and pg. He should be eating up opposing center with his skills.

Gallo is 22, he will be inconsistent. He is showing his upside by having a lot of big games. Judge him on consistency when he is 25 or 26.

Gallo is shooting 40% this is his third year in the league. Should we hold out judgment on Eddy Curry too he is only 27. I don't see what age has to do with inconsistency it is what it is he is inconsistent. I don't think time will change that, if anything time will reveal that we held on to him to long.

Vmart wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Vmart wrote:I'm all for keeping Chandler as far as Gallo to inconsistent for my liking. Best way is to trade Gallo for Melo and hope he signs an extention. Chandler can be resigned with bird rights. Once the core is set the Knicks have to go over the cap threshold that is always a given for any team that has star players. Lakers are over and I believe Celtics are over the cap too. MDA has to get Randolph going I blame him for Mozgov and Randolph taking a step back. Its pretty obvious MDA doesn't work well with legit center types. I thought Randolph would be ideal in his system he has to get more out of AR. AR has to step up too, he can be small on the court because that is what he does when he tries to be a PG. He needs to play like a PF/C and leave that other ball handling stuff to his sg and pg. He should be eating up opposing center with his skills.

Gallo is 22, he will be inconsistent. He is showing his upside by having a lot of big games. Judge him on consistency when he is 25 or 26.

Gallo is shooting 40% this is his third year in the league. Should we hold out judgment on Eddy Curry too he is only 27. I don't see what age has to do with inconsistency it is what it is he is inconsistent. I don't think time will change that, if anything time will reveal that we held on to him to long.

You can't judge shooting percentages this early in a season. I'm sure there are plenty of very good NBA players who are shooting in that range so far this season. You judge that in the second half of the season. Also, inconsistency is a part of being a young player. Some players are inconsistent because they are bad, others are because they are young. In the world of a shooter you will always have a certain amount of incosistency. In the world of a 22 year old NBA player, you almost always will. He's both so he is bound to be that way.

TMS wrote:

fishmike wrote:

TMS wrote:if we can add another go to scorer i'd be perfectly fine with Felton as the starting PG... i think a Felton/Melo/Amare trio can be a nice foundation for us to build on.

how many 25 point nights do Chandler and Gallo have to put up before they are considered legit scoring options?

i said go to scorer... try & follow along.

until Gallo or Wilson can put up a 20+ ppg type season, i consider Melo a big upgrade in the scoring department... but oh yeah that's right, 25 ppg scorers like Melo are highly overrated to you. lol

And go to scorers can be stopped. Size and depth cant be. See the Heat for example.

fishmike wrote:

TMS wrote:

fishmike wrote:

TMS wrote:if we can add another go to scorer i'd be perfectly fine with Felton as the starting PG... i think a Felton/Melo/Amare trio can be a nice foundation for us to build on.

how many 25 point nights do Chandler and Gallo have to put up before they are considered legit scoring options?

i said go to scorer... try & follow along.

until Gallo or Wilson can put up a 20+ ppg type season, i consider Melo a big upgrade in the scoring department... but oh yeah that's right, 25 ppg scorers like Melo are highly overrated to you. lol

its you that overrates them. Especially ones that dont D, advance in the playoffs, those sorts of things. I dont overrate him at all. Nice player. Going to shoot his way to an all star game every other year or so. Not the franchise player you make him out to be.

And go to scorers can be stopped. Size and depth cant be. See the Heat for example.

yeah, you're right... i'd much rather have Marreese Speights than Melo... LMAO! gimme a break

TMS wrote:

umynot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

TMS wrote:if we can add another go to scorer i'd be perfectly fine with Felton as the starting PG... i think a Felton/Melo/Amare trio can be a nice foundation for us to build on.

how many 25 point nights do Chandler and Gallo have to put up before they are considered legit scoring options?

For real.......

Gallo was our go to guy at end of last year and has been proven he can score!

Chandler is averaging 18 points!

As third option....... Find another 3rd option player in the L that does that......And it was mostly off the bench!

Gallo is avg 15 as 4th option again not many teams have an option like that!!!! Not even the Lakers have 4 guys avging
15 points....

We have a good YOUNG team...... With 2 solid Vets one who is a top 10 player in NBA
We have played 19 games together and we will only continue to get better!!

I believe if we have 1 REAL need is a backup PG..... Or MAYO..... Who could start at SG or play minutes as PG
Felton is a bull but needs someone to spell him...... Rautins has not got a shot yet ....... Rubio would be great
as well IMO

I think as year goes we will see more of AR as well think we are just keeping his value down so we don't have to trade
him like we did with TD last year

we're talking about replacing a #3 option with a #1A or #1B... big upgrade... apples & oranges.

Ray Felton has proven he can be a great facilitator, but IMO this team still needs another go to scorer to be considered elite... especially during postseason play, plays regularly tend to break down & there is a lot of 1 on 1 that goes on... in crunchtime who would u rather have on your team? for me i'd take Melo everytime.

In Boston Garnett scored 15 a game as third option...... WE DONT NEED MELO!!!

TMS wrote:

umynot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

TMS wrote:if we can add another go to scorer i'd be perfectly fine with Felton as the starting PG... i think a Felton/Melo/Amare trio can be a nice foundation for us to build on.

how many 25 point nights do Chandler and Gallo have to put up before they are considered legit scoring options?

For real.......

Gallo was our go to guy at end of last year and has been proven he can score!

Chandler is averaging 18 points!

As third option....... Find another 3rd option player in the L that does that......And it was mostly off the bench!

Gallo is avg 15 as 4th option again not many teams have an option like that!!!! Not even the Lakers have 4 guys avging
15 points....

We have a good YOUNG team...... With 2 solid Vets one who is a top 10 player in NBA
We have played 19 games together and we will only continue to get better!!

I believe if we have 1 REAL need is a backup PG..... Or MAYO..... Who could start at SG or play minutes as PG
Felton is a bull but needs someone to spell him...... Rautins has not got a shot yet ....... Rubio would be great
as well IMO

I think as year goes we will see more of AR as well think we are just keeping his value down so we don't have to trade
him like we did with TD last year

we're talking about replacing a #3 option with a #1A or #1B... big upgrade... apples & oranges.

Ray Felton has proven he can be a great facilitator, but IMO this team still needs another go to scorer to be considered elite... especially during postseason play, plays regularly tend to break down & there is a lot of 1 on 1 that goes on... in crunchtime who would u rather have on your team? for me i'd take Melo everytime.

this is one of the problems. he doesn’t have a history of delivering in the clutch. a good buddy of mine in denver calls me ranting every year at the end of the playoffs (which every year but 1 is after the 1st round) to tell me that denver will never ever ever win until they rid themselves of anthony as their go-to guy.

umynot wrote:

TMS wrote:

umynot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

TMS wrote:if we can add another go to scorer i'd be perfectly fine with Felton as the starting PG... i think a Felton/Melo/Amare trio can be a nice foundation for us to build on.

how many 25 point nights do Chandler and Gallo have to put up before they are considered legit scoring options?

For real.......

Gallo was our go to guy at end of last year and has been proven he can score!

Chandler is averaging 18 points!

As third option....... Find another 3rd option player in the L that does that......And it was mostly off the bench!

Gallo is avg 15 as 4th option again not many teams have an option like that!!!! Not even the Lakers have 4 guys avging
15 points....

We have a good YOUNG team...... With 2 solid Vets one who is a top 10 player in NBA
We have played 19 games together and we will only continue to get better!!

I believe if we have 1 REAL need is a backup PG..... Or MAYO..... Who could start at SG or play minutes as PG
Felton is a bull but needs someone to spell him...... Rautins has not got a shot yet ....... Rubio would be great
as well IMO

I think as year goes we will see more of AR as well think we are just keeping his value down so we don't have to trade
him like we did with TD last year

we're talking about replacing a #3 option with a #1A or #1B... big upgrade... apples & oranges.

Ray Felton has proven he can be a great facilitator, but IMO this team still needs another go to scorer to be considered elite... especially during postseason play, plays regularly tend to break down & there is a lot of 1 on 1 that goes on... in crunchtime who would u rather have on your team? for me i'd take Melo everytime.

There is only ball.......
Ask Lecon how 1a & 1b works

In Boston Garnett scored 15 a game as third option...... WE DONT NEED MELO!!!

Lebron & Wade both need to dominate the ball to be at their best... Amare does not get his points in the same manner that Melo does... apples & oranges.

Garnett deferred much of his scoring when he joined the Celtics team & focused more on playing defense... he was the main cog in their championship puzzle... to dilute his value to that team & say he was simply a 3rd option is skewing the facts to suit your argument.

it is your opinion that we don't need Melo... i disagree w/u completely... i think this team needs another go to scorer like Melo if we ever want to be considered among the elite in the EC.

TMS wrote:

Marv wrote:

TMS wrote:

umynot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

TMS wrote:if we can add another go to scorer i'd be perfectly fine with Felton as the starting PG... i think a Felton/Melo/Amare trio can be a nice foundation for us to build on.

how many 25 point nights do Chandler and Gallo have to put up before they are considered legit scoring options?

For real.......

Gallo was our go to guy at end of last year and has been proven he can score!

Chandler is averaging 18 points!

As third option....... Find another 3rd option player in the L that does that......And it was mostly off the bench!

Gallo is avg 15 as 4th option again not many teams have an option like that!!!! Not even the Lakers have 4 guys avging
15 points....

We have a good YOUNG team...... With 2 solid Vets one who is a top 10 player in NBA
We have played 19 games together and we will only continue to get better!!

I believe if we have 1 REAL need is a backup PG..... Or MAYO..... Who could start at SG or play minutes as PG
Felton is a bull but needs someone to spell him...... Rautins has not got a shot yet ....... Rubio would be great
as well IMO

I think as year goes we will see more of AR as well think we are just keeping his value down so we don't have to trade
him like we did with TD last year

we're talking about replacing a #3 option with a #1A or #1B... big upgrade... apples & oranges.

Ray Felton has proven he can be a great facilitator, but IMO this team still needs another go to scorer to be considered elite... especially during postseason play, plays regularly tend to break down & there is a lot of 1 on 1 that goes on... in crunchtime who would u rather have on your team? for me i'd take Melo everytime.

this is one of the problems. he doesn’t have a history of delivering in the clutch. a good buddy of mine in denver calls me ranting every year at the end of the playoffs (which every year but 1 is after the 1st round) to tell me that denver will never ever ever win until they rid themselves of anthony as their go-to guy.

i would take my chances with a guy putting up 24 / 9 / 3 over Melo or Wilson everytime.

calling dr freud!

TMS wrote:

umynot wrote:

TMS wrote:

umynot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

TMS wrote:if we can add another go to scorer i'd be perfectly fine with Felton as the starting PG... i think a Felton/Melo/Amare trio can be a nice foundation for us to build on.

how many 25 point nights do Chandler and Gallo have to put up before they are considered legit scoring options?

For real.......

Gallo was our go to guy at end of last year and has been proven he can score!

Chandler is averaging 18 points!

As third option....... Find another 3rd option player in the L that does that......And it was mostly off the bench!

Gallo is avg 15 as 4th option again not many teams have an option like that!!!! Not even the Lakers have 4 guys avging
15 points....

We have a good YOUNG team...... With 2 solid Vets one who is a top 10 player in NBA
We have played 19 games together and we will only continue to get better!!

I believe if we have 1 REAL need is a backup PG..... Or MAYO..... Who could start at SG or play minutes as PG
Felton is a bull but needs someone to spell him...... Rautins has not got a shot yet ....... Rubio would be great
as well IMO

I think as year goes we will see more of AR as well think we are just keeping his value down so we don't have to trade
him like we did with TD last year

we're talking about replacing a #3 option with a #1A or #1B... big upgrade... apples & oranges.

Ray Felton has proven he can be a great facilitator, but IMO this team still needs another go to scorer to be considered elite... especially during postseason play, plays regularly tend to break down & there is a lot of 1 on 1 that goes on... in crunchtime who would u rather have on your team? for me i'd take Melo everytime.

There is only ball.......
Ask Lecon how 1a & 1b works

In Boston Garnett scored 15 a game as third option...... WE DONT NEED MELO!!!

Lebron & Wade both need to dominate the ball to be at their best... Amare does not get his points in the same manner that Melo does... apples & oranges.

Garnett deferred much of his scoring when he joined the Celtics team & focused more on playing defense... he was the main cog in their championship puzzle... to dilute his value to that team & say he was simply a 3rd option is skewing the facts to suit your argument.

it is your opinion that we don't need Melo... i disagree w/u completely... i think this team needs another go to scorer like Melo if we ever want to be considered among the elite in the EC.

AnubisADL wrote:Felton is a little too sloppy at times for me.

fishmike wrote:

TMS wrote:

umynot wrote:

TMS wrote:

umynot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

TMS wrote:if we can add another go to scorer i'd be perfectly fine with Felton as the starting PG... i think a Felton/Melo/Amare trio can be a nice foundation for us to build on.

how many 25 point nights do Chandler and Gallo have to put up before they are considered legit scoring options?

For real.......

Gallo was our go to guy at end of last year and has been proven he can score!

Chandler is averaging 18 points!

As third option....... Find another 3rd option player in the L that does that......And it was mostly off the bench!

Gallo is avg 15 as 4th option again not many teams have an option like that!!!! Not even the Lakers have 4 guys avging
15 points....

We have a good YOUNG team...... With 2 solid Vets one who is a top 10 player in NBA
We have played 19 games together and we will only continue to get better!!

I believe if we have 1 REAL need is a backup PG..... Or MAYO..... Who could start at SG or play minutes as PG
Felton is a bull but needs someone to spell him...... Rautins has not got a shot yet ....... Rubio would be great
as well IMO

I think as year goes we will see more of AR as well think we are just keeping his value down so we don't have to trade
him like we did with TD last year

we're talking about replacing a #3 option with a #1A or #1B... big upgrade... apples & oranges.

Ray Felton has proven he can be a great facilitator, but IMO this team still needs another go to scorer to be considered elite... especially during postseason play, plays regularly tend to break down & there is a lot of 1 on 1 that goes on... in crunchtime who would u rather have on your team? for me i'd take Melo everytime.

There is only ball.......
Ask Lecon how 1a & 1b works

In Boston Garnett scored 15 a game as third option...... WE DONT NEED MELO!!!

Lebron & Wade both need to dominate the ball to be at their best... Amare does not get his points in the same manner that Melo does... apples & oranges.

Garnett deferred much of his scoring when he joined the Celtics team & focused more on playing defense... he was the main cog in their championship puzzle... to dilute his value to that team & say he was simply a 3rd option is skewing the facts to suit your argument.

it is your opinion that we don't need Melo... i disagree w/u completely... i think this team needs another go to scorer like Melo if we ever want to be considered among the elite in the EC.

its not my opinion at all. None of the elite teams have Melo, and Melo has never been on an elite team only have advanced once. Therefore not needing Melo to be an elite team is actually a fact.

Thing about Melo is he comes @ 20 million and giving up all our Young players!!!

Def not worth it.......

Kobe shoots 24 shots Gasol get ten

Kobe shoots 18 times Gasol shoots 18

Pierce gets 30 Garnett gets 12

Dwight Howard scored 11 yesterday ........ All this talk about Gallo not a consistent shooter is not true!!!
That Wilson cant be a 20 point scorer is far from a fact!!

The Facts are we have much better pieces at each positions then last year!!.... And we are playing better then we have
in YEARS!!

These are the Facts!!..... Whats Denver record?..... How MUCH BETTER are they then us?...... Now dont get me wrong
if Melo is a FA and want to be added to THIS team then I am all for it!!

If we can get Melo for Chandler TD AR and Buke I say do it!!

But Chandler Fields Gallo and AR for a 20 million dollar a year player I say FUKC NO!!