CrushAlot wrote:

MS wrote:Give the old man his due. I was hard on him, but Douglas/Fields > Bradon Jennings. So you can't get on him about the trade right now. Lebron made the mistake not Donnie.

The Knicks could have had all three of these guys. They didn't have to choose between them.

It was just as plausable that Hill makes basketball #1, shows up in shape and has an impact rookie year, meanwhile Jennings weighing 158 lbs, averaging 4ppg in Europe and calling the Knicks racial slurs on youtube isnt an NBA player.

If you want to focus on specific moves there isnt a single GM you cant take apart in this league.

fishmike wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

MS wrote:Give the old man his due. I was hard on him, but Douglas/Fields > Bradon Jennings. So you can't get on him about the trade right now. Lebron made the mistake not Donnie.

The Knicks could have had all three of these guys. They didn't have to choose between them.

do you expect the GM to always draft the best player? To never make a choice that can come back and bite you?

It was just as plausable that Hill makes basketball #1, shows up in shape and has an impact rookie year, meanwhile Jennings weighing 158 lbs, averaging 4ppg in Europe and calling the Knicks racial slurs on youtube isnt an NBA player.

If you want to focus on specific moves there isnt a single GM you cant take apart in this league.

fishmike wrote:and not for nothing, but Felton is a better player than Jennings. Lets see Jennings shoot over 40% and play some defense.

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:Here's what possibly happens if you DONT make trade:

First, you are out of the 2 Max sweepstakes.
Second, you may not even get Amare (low prob there though).
Third, you either can't do the Lee trade (Turiaf) or you can't sign Felton.
Fourth, you can't sign Moz if one of the 2 in the third part happens.

Fifth, you have full ownership of your next two 1st round picks to include in a possible trade for Carmelo Anthony.

same question to you that I posed to crush that he avoided answering: would you have done the trade? And if not, what is your plan with Hill, Jefferies in tow after you sign Amare?

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:Here's what possibly happens if you DONT make trade:

First, you are out of the 2 Max sweepstakes.
Second, you may not even get Amare (low prob there though).
Third, you either can't do the Lee trade (Turiaf) or you can't sign Felton.
Fourth, you can't sign Moz if one of the 2 in the third part happens.

Fifth, you have full ownership of your next two 1st round picks to include in a possible trade for Carmelo Anthony.

same question to you that I posed to crush that he avoided answering: would you have done the trade? And if not, what is your plan with Hill, Jefferies in tow after you sign Amare?

i already told u i don't think we should have made that trade... i think we should have waited out the process & considered our options on Draft night... plenty of teams were able to dump contracts by unloading way less than what we had to give up... i think Donnie jumped the gun way early... at the very worst, we have Hill, ownership of our next 2 1st round picks & an expiring contract in Fishlips to use in a future deal... i think that gives u pieces to work deals with that will net you more than just a salary dumping maneuver.

after the draft no one takes on Jefferies. SO mostly your team goes into this year without a PG or without Turiaf and prob no Moz.

AnubisADL wrote:

fishmike wrote:and not for nothing, but Felton is a better player than Jennings. Lets see Jennings shoot over 40% and play some defense.

SMH. If they swapped places Milwaukee would be headed straight to the lottery.

Jennings is a better PG than Felton.

Milwaukee in lottery territory right now with jennings

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

fishmike wrote:and not for nothing, but Felton is a better player than Jennings. Lets see Jennings shoot over 40% and play some defense.

SMH. If they swapped places Milwaukee would be headed straight to the lottery.

Jennings is a better PG than Felton.

Milwaukee in lottery territory right now with jennings

the Knicks are in lottery territory right now too.

The Knicks are actually 6th in the east....

Thats not lottery!

TMS wrote:

umynot wrote:

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

fishmike wrote:and not for nothing, but Felton is a better player than Jennings. Lets see Jennings shoot over 40% and play some defense.

SMH. If they swapped places Milwaukee would be headed straight to the lottery.

Jennings is a better PG than Felton.

Milwaukee in lottery territory right now with jennings

the Knicks are in lottery territory right now too.

The Knicks are actually 6th in the east....

Thats not lottery!

if we play at a .467 clip this season i don't think there's any way we'll be making the playoffs this year

We also needed time to gel..... With a 6 game losing streak early I say .467 clip is not a true
indicator of how good we are....

Last year .467 teams in east did make playoffs!

umynot wrote:

TMS wrote:

umynot wrote:

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

fishmike wrote:and not for nothing, but Felton is a better player than Jennings. Lets see Jennings shoot over 40% and play some defense.

SMH. If they swapped places Milwaukee would be headed straight to the lottery.

Jennings is a better PG than Felton.

Milwaukee in lottery territory right now with jennings

the Knicks are in lottery territory right now too.

The Knicks are actually 6th in the east....

Thats not lottery!

if we play at a .467 clip this season i don't think there's any way we'll be making the playoffs this year

We also needed time to gel..... With a 6 game losing streak early I say .467 clip is not a true
indicator of how good we are....

Last year .467 teams in east did make playoffs!

i expect .500 at the very least out of this bunch so hopefully expectations are met & we do make the playoffs... this year is not last year, the East is much improved, so i'm not banking on making the playoffs with a .467 win percentage... hopefully the latest trend of improved play continues for more than just sporadic runs over the course of the year... i've seen this team play good basketball before under MDA only to fall back into the same old bad habits & poor play... it's going to take a lot more than just a 15 game run to give me confidence that this team has finally turned things around.

umynot wrote:

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

fishmike wrote:and not for nothing, but Felton is a better player than Jennings. Lets see Jennings shoot over 40% and play some defense.

SMH. If they swapped places Milwaukee would be headed straight to the lottery.

Jennings is a better PG than Felton.

Milwaukee in lottery territory right now with jennings

the Knicks are in lottery territory right now too.

The Knicks are actually 6th in the east....

Thats not lottery!

Knicks are actually 7th while Indiana is 5th.

Standings now are pretty irrelevant.