Once again H2O had a wear issue with his knees that wasn't going away. AZ had a tendon tear and after it is healed and the strength is built back up, he should be able to play again. Dejuan Blair had much worse knee issues and is playing.

nixluva wrote:H2O had cartilage issues. AZ tore his patella tendon. There is no correlation between the two injuries. From what i'm reading there's always a chance of the injury reoccurring and he may take a while to regain all of the strength he once had in his leg, The Knee cap may not end up in exactly the same spot as before, but the Knee should work as and he hasn't damaged any of the other structures in the Knee that make it stable. I would guess that he can still be a very productive player and nothing like what H2O suffered at all.

Once again H2O had a wear issue with his knees that wasn't going away. AZ had a tendon tear and after it is healed and the strength is built back up, he should be able to play again. Dejuan Blair had much worse knee issues and is playing.

From what I've read it's a long recovery period but that most athletes come back from it and can get back to 100%

martin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

nixluva wrote:H2O had cartilage issues. AZ tore his patella tendon. There is no correlation between the two injuries. From what i'm reading there's always a chance of the injury reoccurring and he may take a while to regain all of the strength he once had in his leg, The Knee cap may not end up in exactly the same spot as before, but the Knee should work as and he hasn't damaged any of the other structures in the Knee that make it stable. I would guess that he can still be a very productive player and nothing like what H2O suffered at all.

Once again H2O had a wear issue with his knees that wasn't going away. AZ had a tendon tear and after it is healed and the strength is built back up, he should be able to play again. Dejuan Blair had much worse knee issues and is playing.

From what I've read it's a long recovery period but that most athletes come back from it and can get back to 100%

oh wow, never heard anything on the patella recovery. nice to hear that.

This is good news, but he will battle knee tendinitits if his knee cap is off from original spot. That and arthritis. I have that now and while it hurts like a mother, it goes away with adrenaline pumping during games.

Allanfan20 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

nixluva wrote:H2O had cartilage issues. AZ tore his patella tendon. There is no correlation between the two injuries. From what i'm reading there's always a chance of the injury reoccurring and he may take a while to regain all of the strength he once had in his leg, The Knee cap may not end up in exactly the same spot as before, but the Knee should work as and he hasn't damaged any of the other structures in the Knee that make it stable. I would guess that he can still be a very productive player and nothing like what H2O suffered at all.

Once again H2O had a wear issue with his knees that wasn't going away. AZ had a tendon tear and after it is healed and the strength is built back up, he should be able to play again. Dejuan Blair had much worse knee issues and is playing.

From what I've read it's a long recovery period but that most athletes come back from it and can get back to 100%

This is what makes me worried. The Knicks have a huge tendency to rush players. Case in point: Allan Houston and Antonio McDyess. They weren't all that great with Camby, Glen Rice and even Ewing either, towards the end of his career.

These guys have to recover 100%, especially with knee, back and ankle issues. They'll never go away.

thing is, all you have heard and read is that the Knicks' staff want him to be patient. It's Buike himself who seems to want to push his return up, whether just normal young-guy excitement or the knowledge that this is indeed a contract year for him.

Allanfan20 wrote:

martin wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

nixluva wrote:H2O had cartilage issues. AZ tore his patella tendon. There is no correlation between the two injuries. From what i'm reading there's always a chance of the injury reoccurring and he may take a while to regain all of the strength he once had in his leg, The Knee cap may not end up in exactly the same spot as before, but the Knee should work as and he hasn't damaged any of the other structures in the Knee that make it stable. I would guess that he can still be a very productive player and nothing like what H2O suffered at all.

Once again H2O had a wear issue with his knees that wasn't going away. AZ had a tendon tear and after it is healed and the strength is built back up, he should be able to play again. Dejuan Blair had much worse knee issues and is playing.

From what I've read it's a long recovery period but that most athletes come back from it and can get back to 100%

This is what makes me worried. The Knicks have a huge tendency to rush players. Case in point: Allan Houston and Antonio McDyess. They weren't all that great with Camby, Glen Rice and even Ewing either, towards the end of his career.

These guys have to recover 100%, especially with knee, back and ankle issues. They'll never go away.

thing is, all you have heard and read is that the Knicks' staff want him to be patient. It's Buike himself who seems to want to push his return up, whether just normal young-guy excitement or the knowledge that this is indeed a contract year for him.

It's up to the Knicks and the med staff and coaching staff to be responsible at the end of the day though. They are the ones that clear him to play and if they see he's walking with a gait and still can't move laterally (See getting blown by on defense) then they have to realize that he doesn't know how his body is recovering.

They shouldn't worry about his contract. They didn't with Nate or Harrington or Duhon or S-Rod or any one else so they shouldn't with Buike. He'll get his contract if they have him recover fully.

It's the combined responsibility of the staff and the player.

And I threw out the suggestion of the contract as something that would motivate the player to come back as early as he could, nothing to do with the Knicks.

martin wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

martin wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

nixluva wrote:H2O had cartilage issues. AZ tore his patella tendon. There is no correlation between the two injuries. From what i'm reading there's always a chance of the injury reoccurring and he may take a while to regain all of the strength he once had in his leg, The Knee cap may not end up in exactly the same spot as before, but the Knee should work as and he hasn't damaged any of the other structures in the Knee that make it stable. I would guess that he can still be a very productive player and nothing like what H2O suffered at all.

Once again H2O had a wear issue with his knees that wasn't going away. AZ had a tendon tear and after it is healed and the strength is built back up, he should be able to play again. Dejuan Blair had much worse knee issues and is playing.

From what I've read it's a long recovery period but that most athletes come back from it and can get back to 100%

This is what makes me worried. The Knicks have a huge tendency to rush players. Case in point: Allan Houston and Antonio McDyess. They weren't all that great with Camby, Glen Rice and even Ewing either, towards the end of his career.

These guys have to recover 100%, especially with knee, back and ankle issues. They'll never go away.

thing is, all you have heard and read is that the Knicks' staff want him to be patient. It's Buike himself who seems to want to push his return up, whether just normal young-guy excitement or the knowledge that this is indeed a contract year for him.

It's up to the Knicks and the med staff and coaching staff to be responsible at the end of the day though. They are the ones that clear him to play and if they see he's walking with a gait and still can't move laterally (See getting blown by on defense) then they have to realize that he doesn't know how his body is recovering.

They shouldn't worry about his contract. They didn't with Nate or Harrington or Duhon or S-Rod or any one else so they shouldn't with Buike. He'll get his contract if they have him recover fully.

It's the combined responsibility of the staff and the player.

And I threw out the suggestion of the contract as something that would motivate the player to come back as early as he could, nothing to do with the Knicks.

I agree it's up to the player too and that his contract can be a real driving force for Azu (That's what I am calling him for now on). However, don't you think the coaching staff would be able to identify whether or not he's not fully recovered based on how he's playing in practice? Like if he's a few steps slow or if he has that gait, ect.. In that case, if Azu is feeling great, isn't it up to the coaching staff and med staff to pinpoint the fact that Azus judgement is clouded?

I would think so.

martin wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

martin wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

martin wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

nixluva wrote:H2O had cartilage issues. AZ tore his patella tendon. There is no correlation between the two injuries. From what i'm reading there's always a chance of the injury reoccurring and he may take a while to regain all of the strength he once had in his leg, The Knee cap may not end up in exactly the same spot as before, but the Knee should work as and he hasn't damaged any of the other structures in the Knee that make it stable. I would guess that he can still be a very productive player and nothing like what H2O suffered at all.

Once again H2O had a wear issue with his knees that wasn't going away. AZ had a tendon tear and after it is healed and the strength is built back up, he should be able to play again. Dejuan Blair had much worse knee issues and is playing.

From what I've read it's a long recovery period but that most athletes come back from it and can get back to 100%

This is what makes me worried. The Knicks have a huge tendency to rush players. Case in point: Allan Houston and Antonio McDyess. They weren't all that great with Camby, Glen Rice and even Ewing either, towards the end of his career.

These guys have to recover 100%, especially with knee, back and ankle issues. They'll never go away.

thing is, all you have heard and read is that the Knicks' staff want him to be patient. It's Buike himself who seems to want to push his return up, whether just normal young-guy excitement or the knowledge that this is indeed a contract year for him.

It's up to the Knicks and the med staff and coaching staff to be responsible at the end of the day though. They are the ones that clear him to play and if they see he's walking with a gait and still can't move laterally (See getting blown by on defense) then they have to realize that he doesn't know how his body is recovering.

They shouldn't worry about his contract. They didn't with Nate or Harrington or Duhon or S-Rod or any one else so they shouldn't with Buike. He'll get his contract if they have him recover fully.

It's the combined responsibility of the staff and the player.

And I threw out the suggestion of the contract as something that would motivate the player to come back as early as he could, nothing to do with the Knicks.

I agree it's up to the player too and that his contract can be a real driving force for Azu (That's what I am calling him for now on). However, don't you think the coaching staff would be able to identify whether or not he's not fully recovered based on how he's playing in practice? Like if he's a few steps slow or if he has that gait, ect.. In that case, if Azu is feeling great, isn't it up to the coaching staff and med staff to pinpoint the fact that Azus judgement is clouded?

I would think so.

no. injuries are not an exact science.

I agree, but let me rephrase it. If he's not playing up to his and your standards, would you be putting him in there?