fishmike wrote:I think Mayo has a shot to be a legit all star. He's a small SG for sure but he can really play. I think Memphis knows what he can do though... its going to take a nice package to make that happen. I dont think Douglas/AR + cash gets it done. I wouldnt make that trade if I'm Memphis.

would you do Fields/Douglas/Buike for Mayo?

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:I think Mayo has a shot to be a legit all star. He's a small SG for sure but he can really play. I think Memphis knows what he can do though... its going to take a nice package to make that happen. I dont think Douglas/AR + cash gets it done. I wouldnt make that trade if I'm Memphis.

would you do Fields/Douglas/Buike for Mayo?

I would hate to but would have too. Fields and Douglas are what we love about sports, this team, everything. Scrappy guys who make plays and get you yelling at the TV, but OJ Mayo was once regarded as another Lebron caliber player coming out of HS. He's not that (obviously) but he's 23 and has a damn good game. He's also got a GREAT jumper. I could easily see a guy who gives you like 20ppg and 6-7 assits in a couple years and creates a LOT of easy shots for teammates. Thats a huge piece to have if you want to be an elite team. I have to make that trade. Have too... You have to give up talent to get talent.

Its a gamble. OJ's at a bit of a crossroads in year 3. He's a good player. Will he be a great player?

That trade would change the dynamic of this team. Really hard to say, really hard. Kind of trade I'm glad I wouldnt have too decide on.

I guess the question mark is what is Field's upside?

I say we keep Fields ...... He does too many things good.

TD and AR should be more then enough for Mayo mYbe add second rounder

Mayo had 3 points on Friday followed with 2 points last night

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:I think Mayo has a shot to be a legit all star. He's a small SG for sure but he can really play. I think Memphis knows what he can do though... its going to take a nice package to make that happen. I dont think Douglas/AR + cash gets it done. I wouldnt make that trade if I'm Memphis.

would you do Fields/Douglas/Buike for Mayo?

I would hate to but would have too. Fields and Douglas are what we love about sports, this team, everything. Scrappy guys who make plays and get you yelling at the TV, but OJ Mayo was once regarded as another Lebron caliber player coming out of HS. He's not that (obviously) but he's 23 and has a damn good game. He's also got a GREAT jumper. I could easily see a guy who gives you like 20ppg and 6-7 assits in a couple years and creates a LOT of easy shots for teammates. Thats a huge piece to have if you want to be an elite team. I have to make that trade. Have too... You have to give up talent to get talent.

Its a gamble. OJ's at a bit of a crossroads in year 3. He's a good player. Will he be a great player?

That trade would change the dynamic of this team. Really hard to say, really hard. Kind of trade I'm glad I wouldnt have too decide on.

I guess the question mark is what is Field's upside?

yeah that's the key. And I wouldn't slouch on TD either. Dude was plain awful during last year and SL this year from a purely PG standpoint on the offensive side of things, brilliant defensively, but is starting to become a capable backup combo guard off the bench. If TD - and it's a HUGE IF - finally sees the court better, he would be a terror off the bench. He gets better in the offseason and there is no reason he can't become a capable off-the-bench PG who can run an offense and lock down opponents on the other side.

In two years I see OJ as Monta Ellis on offense and Raja Bell on defense. Thats a player who is part of an elite team.

If you could stick a true defensive stud (praying Mosgov) at center with this lineup:
PG Felton
SG Mayo
SF Gallo
PF Amare

I think your competing for a title every year until Amare breaks down.

Resign Chandler as the perfect 6th man. Wow

If we have Carmelo though at SF, instead of Gallo, having a 40% 3-pt shooter like Mayo who can also relieve Felton of ball-handling duties would be a great fit at SG. We don't really have any trade pieces that Memphis would want though.

fishmike wrote:

FistOfOakley wrote:mayo is an undersized, high volume shooting guard. having fields who doesn't need the ball to make contributions is actually a great piece for us. if only he can hit 3s at a 40% clip. more of what we need is a big man that can complement amar'e. someone who can be strong on the boards and protect the paint.

he's not Jamal Crawford. Not even close. He's a tough defender and an athletic notch above pretty much everyone we have which is saying a LOT.

Your trading for a guy who can be a star. Douglas and Fields are already good player and I have no problem NOT making this trade cause I love those guys, but OJ is like 3 tiers higher than those guys

If Memphis wants Feilds included, you have to do it. You have to put your Fanatic Hat aside and use common sense on this deal. Mayo is exactly what we need in terms of a legit 2g, good shooter from the outside, good defender, and most importantly, he gives us another playmaker in the backcourt. he could actually run the point when Felt goes to the bench. As you said Fish, he much more skilled than TD and Fields. Fields is a feel good story, but you would have to make this deal if offered.

Knowing the financial troubles that Memphis is in, would you consider this type of deal:

Gasol, Mayo for Douglas, Fields, AR, Timo, Buike.

This would allow Memphis to resign Zach and not get hit hard with resigning Gasol & Mayo while retooling with some decent talent.

martin wrote:Just throwing this out there for fun:

Knowing the financial troubles that Memphis is in, would you consider this type of deal:

Gasol, Mayo for Douglas, Fields, AR, Timo, Buike.

This would allow Memphis to resign Zach and not get hit hard with resigning Gasol & Mayo while retooling with some decent talent.

Interesting because I'd feel good about what we were getting but bad about giving up guys like Douglas, Fields, and Timo, who I see as "our guys" because we drafted/were the first to sign them.

Give me a season to see how Douglas/Fields/Mosguv develop, whether AR can find himself, and time to see was Buike has something left.

Not a trade that I would reject even though I would be losing some young guys I would like to see develop in a Knicks' uniform.

crzymdups wrote:

martin wrote:Just throwing this out there for fun:

Knowing the financial troubles that Memphis is in, would you consider this type of deal:

Gasol, Mayo for Douglas, Fields, AR, Timo, Buike.

This would allow Memphis to resign Zach and not get hit hard with resigning Gasol & Mayo while retooling with some decent talent.

i think they REALLY want to keep gasol. it may be possible to get Mayo from them. i imagine our offer would need to include fields or toney and AR.

they just signed mike conley to $45M and gay to $80M this summer - they can't be doing that badly. still, it seems like mayo isn't in their plans.

i would snap him up. he's the kind of playmaker from the wing this team has lacked for a looooong time.

Just wondering.

martin wrote:Just throwing this out there for fun:

Knowing the financial troubles that Memphis is in, would you consider this type of deal:

Gasol, Mayo for Douglas, Fields, AR, Timo, Buike.

This would allow Memphis to resign Zach and not get hit hard with resigning Gasol & Mayo while retooling with some decent talent.

I would probably pass. Lil Gasol has got game, but Mayo is too much of a tweener for me. I saw him try and learn the PG position in summer league and he made TD look like John Stockton. Also, his height causes him problems on defense. On top of that, he's going to want a boat load of money in two years.