iSergio wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

iSergio wrote:I don't root against any player on the Knicks. Well, except for Eddy Curry.

Anyway, if a player is overhyped to a point where it becomes ridiculous like it did with Danilo Gallinari, I cannot help but start to dislike him. I don't root against Gallo, I just don't like his game.

So you can't form your own opinion? You base your feelings about a player on what others feel? Personally if a guy works hard and tries to get the most out of his ability for my beloved knicks then I am a fan. I could care less how isergio or nixluva or fishmike or anyone else thinks about him. Your logic is beyond my comprehension. Does this mean if 20% of the people on this site were convinced that Patrick Ewing was the NBA's greatest player then you would hate him too? Help me to understand.

No idea where you're going with this. It's been pretty clear I like Amar'e Stoudemire, Raymond Felton, Landry Fields, Timofey Mozgov and Wilson Chandler and it has nothing to do with you all think. Just like my opinion of Danilo Gallinari and Anthony Randolph has nothing to do with what you all think. I liked Nate Robinson and the majority here hated him. I hated David Lee and the majority here loved him.

You have no idea where I'm going with this? Your own words are that you are having a hard time rooting for AR and DG because they are overhyped. So your opinion of them is shaped by what other. Fans think. How much clearer can it be?

Bippity10 wrote:Kam77 and isergio you guys are way overdramatic. I 100% agree with you that what you write is true. But none of what you say is even close to the prevailing opinion. If it was id be right there with you. But the vast majority of the guys I've spoken with on this site would trade anyone on this roster for the right deal. Who are you speaking with?

Maybe the solution for you guys is to conclude that everyone here is nuts and maybe try another messageboard with more intelligent fans

Off the top of my head, BRIGGS, NYKBocker & knickstorrents.

BRIGGS said we would win 53 games and have four 20 ppg scorers. NYKBocker said he would only trade Danilo Gallinari for Kevin Durant. Nobody else. And knicktorrents says Carmelo Anthony is Al Harrington.

Sorry but all of these posts were ridiculous.

kam77 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

iSergio wrote:I don't root against any player on the Knicks. Well, except for Eddy Curry.

Anyway, if a player is overhyped to a point where it becomes ridiculous like it did with Danilo Gallinari, I cannot help but start to dislike him. I don't root against Gallo, I just don't like his game.

So you can't form your own opinion? You base your feelings about a player on what others feel? Personally if a guy works hard and tries to get the most out of his ability for my beloved knicks then I am a fan. I could care less how isergio or nixluva or fishmike or anyone else thinks about him. Your logic is beyond my comprehension. Does this mean if 20% of the people on this site were convinced that Patrick Ewing was the NBA's greatest player then you would hate him too? Help me to understand.

Because if he says something true about Gallo that isn't a compliment, people will call him a hater. So he goes from a guy who thinks Gallo is OK to now being a guy who has to point out how Gallo is not as good as you think he is. And then you say ... "Gee he hates Gallo" when in reality.. he doen't hate him... he just doesn't like him as much as some others.

You guys like to make fun of Misterearl or Nixluva for being undyingly positive all the time. But you act like miniearls when someone points out something you don't wanna read/see/hear.

Perfect.

iSergio wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Kam77 and isergio you guys are way overdramatic. I 100% agree with you that what you write is true. But none of what you say is even close to the prevailing opinion. If it was id be right there with you. But the vast majority of the guys I've spoken with on this site would trade anyone on this roster for the right deal. Who are you speaking with?

Maybe the solution for you guys is to conclude that everyone here is nuts and maybe try another messageboard with more intelligent fans

Off the top of my head, BRIGGS, NYKBocker & knickstorrents.

BRIGGS said we would win 53 games and have four 20 ppg scorers. NYKBocker said he would only trade Danilo Gallinari for Kevin Durant. Nobody else. And knicktorrents says Carmelo Anthony is Al Harrington.

Sorry but all of these posts were ridiculous.

when you post those statements as they are, they are pretty ridiculous. But that was not the context of any of them, so in fact your understanding of them is fairly ridiculous.

kam77 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

iSergio wrote:I don't root against any player on the Knicks. Well, except for Eddy Curry.

Anyway, if a player is overhyped to a point where it becomes ridiculous like it did with Danilo Gallinari, I cannot help but start to dislike him. I don't root against Gallo, I just don't like his game.

So you can't form your own opinion? You base your feelings about a player on what others feel? Personally if a guy works hard and tries to get the most out of his ability for my beloved knicks then I am a fan. I could care less how isergio or nixluva or fishmike or anyone else thinks about him. Your logic is beyond my comprehension. Does this mean if 20% of the people on this site were convinced that Patrick Ewing was the NBA's greatest player then you would hate him too? Help me to understand.

Because if he says something true about Gallo that isn't a compliment, people will call him a hater. So he goes from a guy who thinks Gallo is OK to now being a guy who has to point out how Gallo is not as good as you think he is. And then you say ... "Gee he hates Gallo" when in reality.. he doen't hate him... he just doesn't like him as much as some others.

You guys like to make fun of Misterearl or Nixluva for being undyingly positive all the time. But you act like miniearls when someone points out something you don't wanna read/see/hear.

You guys????? Can you find one moment where I have called you or isergio a hater because he pointed out a flaw. This is part of the problem, you have a conversation with one person and project it to the whole group(example the accusation that people feel gallo is the next bird. If you are intellectually honest you will admit that one maybe two people have said this)

I'm willing to bet that isergio has been calledd a hater. I'm willing to bet that this has less to do with what he is saying and more to do with context. Saying that Gallo needs to stop taking threes is a true statement and not worthy of being called a hater. Saying YOU HATE how many threes he takes is fair as well. None of that is worthy of the hater label. But traveling from thread to thread and feeling compelled to bring up the fact he shoots too many threes because others praise his game probably will unddrstandably garner this response. I'm guessing that this conversation about context will be lost on some.

I will say that I have been very hard on Gallo and very hard on m9zgov and very hard on Wilson and yet not once have I been called a hater. if people did start calling me a hater id probably start examining my own approach. So if its happening to isergio maybe its less about the irrational fans that can't take any discussions about the negative aspects of his game then maybe its his approach because I'm not having those problems

Bippity10 wrote:

iSergio wrote:

martin wrote:

iSergio wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Kam77 and isergio you guys are way overdramatic. I 100% agree with you that what you write is true. But none of what you say is even close to the prevailing opinion. If it was id be right there with you. But the vast majority of the guys I've spoken with on this site would trade anyone on this roster for the right deal. Who are you speaking with?

Maybe the solution for you guys is to conclude that everyone here is nuts and maybe try another messageboard with more intelligent fans

Off the top of my head, BRIGGS, NYKBocker & knickstorrents.

BRIGGS said we would win 53 games and have four 20 ppg scorers. NYKBocker said he would only trade Danilo Gallinari for Kevin Durant. Nobody else. And knicktorrents says Carmelo Anthony is Al Harrington.

Sorry but all of these posts were ridiculous.

when you post those statements as they are, they are pretty ridiculous. But that was not the context of any of them, so in fact your understanding of them is fairly ridiculous.

No wonder you don't have a search function here. Too bad I can't find some of these posts.

I once had an argument with a guy that said Tim Duncan was garbage and that Ray Allen was a poor shooter. A couple people agreed with him. Should I have assumed that everone felt that way or just take it for what it was, a statement and belief by a couple of people I disagrred with.

BoBo?

There's a chance that he'll develop into more of a threat offensively, but even if he doesn't, he's looking like he'll be a great glue guy who will be productive for many years. So, imo if he keeps developing, he's got a chance to be the kind of player who fills the stat sheet w/o looking like he's trying to, 10-15 pts, plus 4-5 assists, 6-7 rebounds and 1-2 steals, and strong fundamental D (think Richard Jefferson in his prime, w/o the dickishness). Or, if he's nearer his peak, he's already a solid rotation guy who can give you 20 productive minutes a night while rarely hurting the team. Either way, awesome value for a 2nd round pick.

martin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

iSergio wrote:

martin wrote:

iSergio wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Kam77 and isergio you guys are way overdramatic. I 100% agree with you that what you write is true. But none of what you say is even close to the prevailing opinion. If it was id be right there with you. But the vast majority of the guys I've spoken with on this site would trade anyone on this roster for the right deal. Who are you speaking with?

Maybe the solution for you guys is to conclude that everyone here is nuts and maybe try another messageboard with more intelligent fans

Off the top of my head, BRIGGS, NYKBocker & knickstorrents.

BRIGGS said we would win 53 games and have four 20 ppg scorers. NYKBocker said he would only trade Danilo Gallinari for Kevin Durant. Nobody else. And knicktorrents says Carmelo Anthony is Al Harrington.

Sorry but all of these posts were ridiculous.

when you post those statements as they are, they are pretty ridiculous. But that was not the context of any of them, so in fact your understanding of them is fairly ridiculous.

No wonder you don't have a search function here. Too bad I can't find some of these posts.

I once had an argument with a guy that said Tim Duncan was garbage and that Ray Allen was a poor shooter. A couple people agreed with him. Should I have assumed that everone felt that way or just take it for what it was, a statement and belief by a couple of people I disagrred with.

BoBo?

Yes both arguments were with Bob and no I am not Bobo!!!!!

bernard wrote:Back to the subject of the thread, I'm really liking what I see out of Landry Fields. I hope he's the kind of player we all can root for, as he just seems so solid and smart on the court. And it sure doesn't seem that he's just on a hot streak. He's playing like someone who really knows the game: excellent court awareness on both sides, rarely makes a dumb play, and these aren't things that just go away.

There's a chance that he'll develop into more of a threat offensively, but even if he doesn't, he's looking like he'll be a great glue guy who will be productive for many years. So, imo if he keeps developing, he's got a chance to be the kind of player who fills the stat sheet w/o looking like he's trying to, 10-15 pts, plus 4-5 assists, 6-7 rebounds and 1-2 steals, and strong fundamental D (think Richard Jefferson in his prime, w/o the dickishness). Or, if he's nearer his peak, he's already a solid rotation guy who can give you 20 productive minutes a night while rarely hurting the team. Either way, awesome value for a 2nd round pick.

i agree... the kid plays like a seasoned vet already... always seems to be at the right place on the court, knocks down shots when he gets the opportunity, & plays solid defense... i think your stat projections are pretty much dead on to what i would expect to see out of him... in terms of style of play, i'm seeing more Shane Battier than RJ tho, i don't think Fields has the same type of explosiveness as RJ did with the Nets... hopefully he can grow into the same type of defensive player that Battier is... we could really use a player like that.

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