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Papabear
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10/31/2010  12:06 PM
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He Parties too much.

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10/31/2010  3:44 PM
oohah wrote:Okay guys. Voice of reason here.

Nothing happened to Gallinari. The fact is he is a specialist, a shooter and he is not shooting well.

Gallinari, was never, ever a super-agile, handle the ball like a guard power-forward. Like a Keith van Horn or Vin Baker, that he was he was made out to be.

He needs to grow his game, especially on the interior. Learn to rebound and play in the post. Then he will be a much better player. Otherwise he is just a 6'11" 3 point specialist.

But he hasn't all of a sudden become a dramatically worse player. Same player as last year.

oohah


Oohah, problem is - he actually does have those skills. He does have the well-rounded game. But he"s not showing it. At all. And that's what's frustrating and pissing the hell out of a lot of us. If he were only what you say he is - then we'd wait for the slump to be over. but that's not the deal with this guy.

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10/31/2010  3:55 PM

We should waive him,

Then send him to the D-league,

Then trade him,

Then bench him,

Buy his contract out,

Then put him on injured reserve,

Then we should call him Dirk,

Then Larry,

Then trade him again!!!!!

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10/31/2010  4:02 PM
Nalod wrote:
We should waive him,

Then send him to the D-league,

Then trade him,

Then bench him,

Buy his contract out,

Then put him on injured reserve,

Then we should call him Dirk,

Then Larry,

Then trade him again!!!!!

He needs to live by harry's code.

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10/31/2010  5:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/31/2010  5:44 PM
Marv wrote:
Oohah, problem is - he actually does have those skills. He does have the well-rounded game. But he"s not showing it. At all. And that's what's frustrating and pissing the hell out of a lot of us. If he were only what you say he is - then we'd wait for the slump to be over. but that's not the deal with this guy.

You must have seen a lot from Gallinari that I haven't seen. Nasty dribble moves to complement his long-range shooting like KVH had when he was young? I haven't seen it. Agility and the ability to drive the Vin Baker had when he was young? I haven't seen it either.

There has been a lot of talk about Gallinari's ball-handling and agility, his passing etc., but 80% of what I have seen from him, for his entire Knicks career, has been him shooting long range shots. I have been unimpressed with his ball-handling, and I have not seen him show any type of versatility to his offense on a consistent basis.

oohah

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10/31/2010  11:13 PM
is there a difference between Mason and Gallo right now?
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/1/2010  12:15 AM
Marv wrote:
Nalod wrote:
We should waive him,

Then send him to the D-league,

Then trade him,

Then bench him,

Buy his contract out,

Then put him on injured reserve,

Then we should call him Dirk,

Then Larry,

Then trade him again!!!!!

He needs to live by harry's code.

Just finished season two tonite. I will miss Lila. She was a very bad girl.

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11/1/2010  1:20 AM
This was written before the portland game...


http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/columns/story?columnist=sheridan_chris&id=5743230

Knicks are facing a Danilo dilemma
Gallinari says wrist is fine, so what exactly is wrong with slumping sharpshooter?

BOSTON -- Something is wrong with Danilo Gallinari. Very, very wrong.

One thing for sure, problem-wise, is his right wrist. It is not just sore; he actually sprained it 10 days ago when he fell on it during a preseason game.

And then there is his psyche. The best prognosis: At the very least, it is bruised.

Wearing a hooded sweatshirt atop his noggin and an elastic bandage around a bag of ice on his right wrist, Gallinari bolted from the New York Knicks' locker room less than 15 minutes after a 105-101 loss to the Boston Celtics on Friday night, making a beeline for the team bus before deciding to stop and answer a few questions.

His answers, however, were not all that revealing.

"The wrist is fine. It's fine," Gallinari said after going 0-for-6 from the field and getting benched for the final 21 minutes. "If I say it's fine, it's fine. Everything else is fine. I don't see not fine things. If we look at the game, we played a great game. To play this game against the best team in the East, you have to stay positive and try to take all the positive things that we did in the game."


The positives were indeed there, beginning with a no-quit attitude that allowed the Knicks to turn what looked like a hopeless situation, trailing by 11 with 2:14 left, into a two-point deficit with 17 seconds to play before Paul Pierce (25 points, 14 rebounds) iced the Celtics' victory with a pair of free throws.

Amare Stoudemire (27 points, eight rebounds, two blocks) was every bit as aggressive and emotional as counterpart Kevin Garnett (24 points, 10 rebounds), being such a go-to guy that he actually hit a 3-pointer -- his second of the game -- to cut that deficit down to two in the final seconds.

"Tonight I wanted to be a little bit more of a facilitator and get my teammates involved, so I started off that way and wasn't too aggressive toward scoring until the fourth quarter," Stoudemire said. "It was very encouraging, and now we go to the next one."

Wilson Chandler was again a sparkplug off the bench with 19 points, six boards and four blocks, Landry Fields made it impossible for his coach to remove him by coming up with all manner of hustle plays and clutch plays in 34 minutes of burn, and Toney Douglas contributed 12 points and three 3-pointers in a reserve role to help the Knicks to a 41-24 edge in bench scoring.

But the Knicks are not going to be a contending team over the long haul if they do not start getting some production from Gallinari, who had a poor preseason even before spraining his wrist and now has played a pair of stinkers to open the regular season.

"The wrist is bothering him a little bit. He needs to rest and recuperate, make sure he heals, take care of his body," Stoudemire said. "He's very important to the team. He can help us a lot. We need Gallo, and he's going to be OK."

Aside from the quick exit by Gallinari, the Knicks' locker room was not a downcast place after the loss. They trailed for most of the game, but they never allowed the Celtics to pull too far ahead on a night when the individual stats piled up, not only for Pierce and Garnett, but especially for Rajon Rondo (10 points, 10 rebounds and 24 assists, four shy of Bob Cousy's team record and six shy of Scott Skiles' NBA record.)

The Knicks allowed too many open looks, especially to Pierce, but they got key steals when they needed them, key buckets when they were desperate for them, and -- biggest of all -- they simply refused to quit.


"Willpower," Stoudemire said.

"Last year we probably would have laid down at the end of the game, and it would have been a bigger victory for those guys," said Chandler, who faulted himself for taking too many 3-pointers (he was 1-for-7 from downtown, 8-for-13 otherwise).

The Knicks shot 11-for-23 in the fourth quarter and matched the Celtics with 13 rebounds, but they still had a 54-38 deficit overall on the boards, missed nine free throws and allowed 16 second-chance points.

"We should come out of this game with our heads up because it was a great game for us, especially playing the best team in the East. We had a chance to win it," Gallinari said.

But they might have had a better chance to win it if their best shooter had been able to hit a single shot, which he couldn't. Which was why Gallinari spent a majority of the second half watching instead of playing.

"We were playing really good with the guys that were on the court, so I was not worried about that," he said.

But good players should want to play, not watch.

So if Gallinari was being entirely truthful in that last statement, there's an even bigger problem upstairs. As it is, there's obviously something amiss with him that needs to be fixed if the Knicks are going to exceed expectations over the long haul and be better than the .500 team they are as they enter their home opener Saturday night against Portland.

Chris Sheridan is a senior NBA writer for ESPN.com.

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11/1/2010  9:16 AM
why not have gallo come off the bench and work his way back slowly? he certainly hasnt played like a starter and has not contributed much. if his wrist is bothering him, then coming off the bench in limited minutes will help. if he's just been dogging it and partying too much like some say he has - then coming off the bench will send him a message then it's up to him how he responds.

too much hand holding for this guy. if his mental make-up is so fragile, then he shouldnt be in the NBA.

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11/1/2010  9:23 AM
jimimou wrote:why not have gallo come off the bench and work his way back slowly? he certainly hasnt played like a starter and has not contributed much. if his wrist is bothering him, then coming off the bench in limited minutes will help. if he's just been dogging it and partying too much like some say he has - then coming off the bench will send him a message then it's up to him how he responds.

too much hand holding for this guy. if his mental make-up is so fragile, then he shouldnt be in the NBA.


Bringing him off the bench will kill his confidence even more. We know how good he is, and he's the team's best shooter, so he must stay a starter. I like what is being done with him now. Start him and let him get shots up. If he misses a lot then sit him the rest of the half. Eventually he will get into an early rhythm, he will shoot lights out, and this whole thing will be forgotten about. Moving him to the bench accomplishes nothing because if he isn't playing well, we have Fields and Chandler playing during crunch time anyways.
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11/1/2010  9:50 AM
Papabear Says

He needs to stay away from that New York Night Life and change his hair style back to the way it was when he was playing good b ball

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11/1/2010  9:58 AM
Knixkik wrote:
jimimou wrote:why not have gallo come off the bench and work his way back slowly? he certainly hasnt played like a starter and has not contributed much. if his wrist is bothering him, then coming off the bench in limited minutes will help. if he's just been dogging it and partying too much like some say he has - then coming off the bench will send him a message then it's up to him how he responds.

too much hand holding for this guy. if his mental make-up is so fragile, then he shouldnt be in the NBA.


Bringing him off the bench will kill his confidence even more. We know how good he is, and he's the team's best shooter, so he must stay a starter. I like what is being done with him now. Start him and let him get shots up. If he misses a lot then sit him the rest of the half. Eventually he will get into an early rhythm, he will shoot lights out, and this whole thing will be forgotten about. Moving him to the bench accomplishes nothing because if he isn't playing well, we have Fields and Chandler playing during crunch time anyways.

I agree 100%. All he needs is one good game and I think hell get his swagger back. Right now I think hes pressing, he has no confidence. His body language is terrible too, and you know hes trying to hold him back. You know those boos that he heard at the garden, even though it was only a few people, hurt him deeply. Once he gets it going, hell be fine. And then maybe well be able to get some wins...

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izybx wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
jimimou wrote:why not have gallo come off the bench and work his way back slowly? he certainly hasnt played like a starter and has not contributed much. if his wrist is bothering him, then coming off the bench in limited minutes will help. if he's just been dogging it and partying too much like some say he has - then coming off the bench will send him a message then it's up to him how he responds.

too much hand holding for this guy. if his mental make-up is so fragile, then he shouldnt be in the NBA.


Bringing him off the bench will kill his confidence even more. We know how good he is, and he's the team's best shooter, so he must stay a starter. I like what is being done with him now. Start him and let him get shots up. If he misses a lot then sit him the rest of the half. Eventually he will get into an early rhythm, he will shoot lights out, and this whole thing will be forgotten about. Moving him to the bench accomplishes nothing because if he isn't playing well, we have Fields and Chandler playing during crunch time anyways.

I agree 100%. All he needs is one good game and I think hell get his swagger back. Right now I think hes pressing, he has no confidence. His body language is terrible too, and you know hes trying to hold him back. You know those boos that he heard at the garden, even though it was only a few people, hurt him deeply. Once he gets it going, hell be fine. And then maybe well be able to get some wins...

your whole reasoning is based on 'what ifs' and predictions that are not supported by his current contribution.

its been done time and time again with bringing a player off the bench after an injury until he regains his form. dont see why gallo is so special that he cant handle coming off the bench for a few games.....the comment about killing his confidence is lame (not the comment itself but if thats what will happen to him) - these are multi-millionaires we are talking about. why treat him like a school boy?

for a team that needs everyone to step up and play their A-game so they can compete effectively in the East, Gallo has not done his part (both in preseason and so far in the few games this season). Personally, I dont see hime ever being more than a one dimensional player.

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11/1/2010  11:05 AM
jimimou wrote:
izybx wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
jimimou wrote:why not have gallo come off the bench and work his way back slowly? he certainly hasnt played like a starter and has not contributed much. if his wrist is bothering him, then coming off the bench in limited minutes will help. if he's just been dogging it and partying too much like some say he has - then coming off the bench will send him a message then it's up to him how he responds.

too much hand holding for this guy. if his mental make-up is so fragile, then he shouldnt be in the NBA.


Bringing him off the bench will kill his confidence even more. We know how good he is, and he's the team's best shooter, so he must stay a starter. I like what is being done with him now. Start him and let him get shots up. If he misses a lot then sit him the rest of the half. Eventually he will get into an early rhythm, he will shoot lights out, and this whole thing will be forgotten about. Moving him to the bench accomplishes nothing because if he isn't playing well, we have Fields and Chandler playing during crunch time anyways.

I agree 100%. All he needs is one good game and I think hell get his swagger back. Right now I think hes pressing, he has no confidence. His body language is terrible too, and you know hes trying to hold him back. You know those boos that he heard at the garden, even though it was only a few people, hurt him deeply. Once he gets it going, hell be fine. And then maybe well be able to get some wins...

your whole reasoning is based on 'what ifs' and predictions that are not supported by his current contribution.

its been done time and time again with bringing a player off the bench after an injury until he regains his form. dont see why gallo is so special that he cant handle coming off the bench for a few games.....the comment about killing his confidence is lame (not the comment itself but if thats what will happen to him) - these are multi-millionaires we are talking about. why treat him like a school boy?

for a team that needs everyone to step up and play their A-game so they can compete effectively in the East, Gallo has not done his part (both in preseason and so far in the few games this season). Personally, I dont see hime ever being more than a one dimensional player.

Of course my reasoning is not based on his current contributions. If that was the case than I would reason that he is not a NBA caliber player. You cant tell me that everything we saw from him the last year counts less than what we saw from him in three games.

I think that even though you dont like it you would agree with me that this is a confidence issue. This happens to players a lot in this league, regardless of how much they get paid. Remember Starks in 94-95? When he had that 6 month slump until he watched tape of game 7, which for some reason cured him? Shooters are susceptible to things like this for some reason. I dont know whats bothering Gallo, but the Knicks need to figure out what it is quick

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11/1/2010  11:10 AM

Gallo might have a urinary infection for all we know.

Dude is young and we built him up in our minds. He at least should be at last years season ending level.

Until he snaps out of it, lets demonize his personal life, public life, stiff of leg, Hair product preference, his insatiable taste for life, and those who hate his community and think his 3 game demise is the root of evil and the ****block for us getting Carmelo.

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11/1/2010  11:18 AM
I think MDA is handling Gallo just right so far. It's early. Let the guy try to play his way out of it. If he's stinking up the joint in the first half, sit him for the 2nd half and put out the players who give us our best shot to win the game. As bad as Gallo's been, I don't think he's the reason we've lost. Celtics in Boston is a tough one even if Gallo's got it going. Portland, we kind of fell apart and got some tough calls going against us -- all while Gallo was sitting.

Mike's saying Gallo'll break out. He's too good. But he's not letting him off the hook completely either. That's the right tone to take. If this keeps up for another 2 or 3 games, then we should probably shut him down until he's completely healthy. And I'm guessing that's what we'll do, assuming he doesn't improve.

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11/1/2010  12:22 PM
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

He needs to stay away from that New York Night Life and change his hair style back to the way it was when he was playing good b ball

i think that's the key.

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11/1/2010  12:52 PM
Nalod wrote:
Gallo might have a urinary infection for all we know.

Dude is young and we built him up in our minds. He at least should be at last years season ending level.

Until he snaps out of it, lets demonize his personal life, public life, stiff of leg, Hair product preference, his insatiable taste for life, and those who hate his community and think his 3 game demise is the root of evil and the ****block for us getting Carmelo.

Word.

TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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11/1/2010  3:30 PM
Nalod wrote:
Gallo might have a urinary infection for all we know.

Dude is young and we built him up in our minds. He at least should be at last years season ending level.

Until he snaps out of it, lets demonize his personal life, public life, stiff of leg, Hair product preference, his insatiable taste for life, and those who hate his community and think his 3 game demise is the root of evil and the ****block for us getting Carmelo.

Leave Gallo alone!

What happened to this guy?

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