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10/31/2010  10:27 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/31/2010  11:37 PM
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Q. rvwink - Don't you think Chandler might have extra motivation currently?

A. The Mayor has improved every season. In that sense, this season is no different

Q. rvwink - What does having Chandler playing better prove?

A. It proves that 6'8, 230 with the grace of a gazelle is a good thing when he gets in a groove

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10/31/2010  11:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/31/2010  11:50 PM
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There both on my team so I don't care who is better. As long as they both continue to improve why does it have to be a competition.

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11/1/2010  1:40 AM
"The Mayor" is earning his nickname this season. You give a name like that to a take charge kind of guy and this season Chandler has been that and then some. It does concern me that this transformation into a much more aggressive player comes in a contract year. It could be something as simple as being benched for a rookie or it could be that he wants to get paid. Or both. Hard to tell.
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11/1/2010  2:41 AM
rvwink wrote:"anyone who's watched the games would have to agree that right now, Wilson looks like the better player than Gallo... Gallo's game has regressed from last year from what he's shown so far in the early going... hopefully that's just due to some lingering injury & he snaps out of it."

Gallo is currently playing injured. What does having Chandler playing better prove? Also Chandler's agent is currently trying to negotiate a new contract with the Knicks. Don't you think Chandler might have extra motivation currently?

Gallo has said there's nothing wrong & I'm gonna take him at his word... as for Wilson having extra motivation because of his contract situation, what's that got to do with anything i said? u don't think Gallo's got motivation to play better & take the next step to show Knicks' brass they don't need to trade for Melo? i don't see Gallo as the type of kid that would tank it just to stop from being traded himself... if he's not playing well, that's not out of lack of trying... the shots just aren't falling for him right now... i don't remember saying that was gonna be an ongoing trend.

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11/1/2010  11:14 AM
Gallo did admit recently that because of his bad wrist, he has been unable to perform his normal practice shooting routine and that has affected his shooting.
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11/1/2010  11:39 AM
"Q. rvwink - What does having Chandler playing better prove?

A. It proves that 6'8, 230 with the grace of a gazelle is a good thing when he gets in a groove"

Answer Man, what do you think of this additional idea?

Last season, Wilson Chandler played shooting guard. People evaluated his performance without factoring in that Wilson a lot less comfortable than he was at his more "natural" forward position. Now that Wilson is back getting significant playing time at forward, he feels much more comfortable and that might be yet another reason he has been playing so well thus far.

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11/1/2010  12:24 PM
rvwink wrote:Gallo did admit recently that because of his bad wrist, he has been unable to perform his normal practice shooting routine and that has affected his shooting.

He was doing poorly before the wrist injury.

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11/1/2010  12:27 PM
Vmart wrote:
rvwink wrote:Gallo did admit recently that because of his bad wrist, he has been unable to perform his normal practice shooting routine and that has affected his shooting.

He was doing poorly before the wrist injury.

when did he hurt the wrist?

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11/1/2010  1:38 PM
Googled "Gallo hurt wrist" and the first mention I saw was October 20th. Since the Knicks' season opener was on October 27th, he was hurt during some preseason games as well.
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11/1/2010  1:49 PM
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:
rvwink wrote:Gallo did admit recently that because of his bad wrist, he has been unable to perform his normal practice shooting routine and that has affected his shooting.

He was doing poorly before the wrist injury.

when did he hurt the wrist?

I remember a fall in one pre-season contests where he came down on his butt in a sitting position and his right arm went down and struck the floor. Thinking Game 2? I'm still not at this point convinced that this is not related to his back problem from previous years. A 'nerve' problem it was called iirc All it take is a little swelling to press on the nerve and the pain radiates to the extremeties. That's from experience I sure as hell hope not. But it would certainly explain a lot.

And it's not something I would expect the team to be completely forthright about..."circle the wagons" kind of thing

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11/1/2010  2:26 PM
Olbrannon wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:
rvwink wrote:Gallo did admit recently that because of his bad wrist, he has been unable to perform his normal practice shooting routine and that has affected his shooting.

He was doing poorly before the wrist injury.

when did he hurt the wrist?

I remember a fall in one pre-season contests where he came down on his butt in a sitting position and his right arm went down and struck the floor. Thinking Game 2? I'm still not at this point convinced that this is not related to his back problem from previous years. A 'nerve' problem it was called iirc All it take is a little swelling to press on the nerve and the pain radiates to the extremeties. That's from experience I sure as hell hope not. But it would certainly explain a lot.

And it's not something I would expect the team to be completely forthright about..."circle the wagons" kind of thing

Right, I think he initially hurt the wrist in Paris and then fell again during the preseason.

Dude can do more though than just shoot. Rebound, cut, hit the open man.

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11/1/2010  2:49 PM
martin wrote:
Olbrannon wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:
rvwink wrote:Gallo did admit recently that because of his bad wrist, he has been unable to perform his normal practice shooting routine and that has affected his shooting.

He was doing poorly before the wrist injury.

when did he hurt the wrist?

I remember a fall in one pre-season contests where he came down on his butt in a sitting position and his right arm went down and struck the floor. Thinking Game 2? I'm still not at this point convinced that this is not related to his back problem from previous years. A 'nerve' problem it was called iirc All it take is a little swelling to press on the nerve and the pain radiates to the extremeties. That's from experience I sure as hell hope not. But it would certainly explain a lot.

And it's not something I would expect the team to be completely forthright about..."circle the wagons" kind of thing

Right, I think he initially hurt the wrist in Paris and then fell again during the preseason.

Dude can do more though than just shoot. Rebound, cut, hit the open man.

What I don't like, and it is almost worthy of its own thread, is that Gallo has an obligation to tell MDA that he can't perform in a way which helps the team, and MDA has an obligation to keep him out until the injury is healed if he believes Gallo is trying to be macho and play through an injury that hinders his performance.

Has MDA downplayed the wrist because he wants Gallo standing on the court to be a threat? Does he just expect him to play through the injury while it heals, or does he not really believe that there is an injury which affects his game?

I remember Glenn Foley (QB) of the Jets not being upfront with his injury (back or ribs, I think), and Parcells pretty much soured on him because Foley had not been honest with him. (not positive on this, Foley seemed to disappear relatively quickly after his injury).


Coach and player have to be honest with each other, especially when it comes to performance hindering injuries. I would'nt have started Gallo in Boston, and done the same vs Portland if the hand was not healed.

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11/1/2010  3:02 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
martin wrote:
Olbrannon wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:
rvwink wrote:Gallo did admit recently that because of his bad wrist, he has been unable to perform his normal practice shooting routine and that has affected his shooting.

He was doing poorly before the wrist injury.

when did he hurt the wrist?

I remember a fall in one pre-season contests where he came down on his butt in a sitting position and his right arm went down and struck the floor. Thinking Game 2? I'm still not at this point convinced that this is not related to his back problem from previous years. A 'nerve' problem it was called iirc All it take is a little swelling to press on the nerve and the pain radiates to the extremeties. That's from experience I sure as hell hope not. But it would certainly explain a lot.

And it's not something I would expect the team to be completely forthright about..."circle the wagons" kind of thing

Right, I think he initially hurt the wrist in Paris and then fell again during the preseason.

Dude can do more though than just shoot. Rebound, cut, hit the open man.

What I don't like, and it is almost worthy of its own thread, is that Gallo has an obligation to tell MDA that he can't perform in a way which helps the team, and MDA has an obligation to keep him out until the injury is healed if he believes Gallo is trying to be macho and play through an injury that hinders his performance.

Has MDA downplayed the wrist because he wants Gallo standing on the court to be a threat? Does he just expect him to play through the injury while it heals, or does he not really believe that there is an injury which affects his game?

I remember Glenn Foley (QB) of the Jets not being upfront with his injury (back or ribs, I think), and Parcells pretty much soured on him because Foley had not been honest with him. (not positive on this, Foley seemed to disappear relatively quickly after his injury).


Coach and player have to be honest with each other, especially when it comes to performance hindering injuries. I would'nt have started Gallo in Boston, and done the same vs Portland if the hand was not healed.

the fans have a RIGHT to know what Gallo and MDA talk about away from cameras. And both of those guys have an OBLIGATION to tell us exactly is being said and discussed.

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11/1/2010  11:32 PM
martin wrote:the fans have a RIGHT to know what Gallo and MDA talk about away from cameras. And both of those guys have an OBLIGATION to tell us exactly is being said and discussed.

So your saying that MDA does not send you text messages asking for input on his major decisions?

Never said that we had that right to know or they had an obligationto tell us anything. From where I'm looking, though, the injury is an issue that is hindering Gallinari's game, and hurting the team's chances to win.

If you take what they say on face value, Gallo has, for the most part, downplayed the wrist, and MDA has not used it as an excuse for his poor performances, now we are hearing that the wrist has been an issue.

Do you believe that the wrist is the major issue here? If it is, what is the point of letting him play if he can't play to his potential and hurts team chemistry? What is the point of letting him play if it might get hurt again?

MDA has to make a judgment call, and from where I am coming from, I'm not sure he made the correct judgment. I think he should have kept him out of the Boston game, and maybe Portland, too.

The Jets kept Revis out when he couldn't play, but when he has been in games, he has not been made to guard the opposition's best receiver all the time, which is what he did last year. On a football team you have enough flexibility to cover-up an injured player- 1 of 11- who stays on the field. You don't have that luxury on a basketball team, where you can only play 5 and a player's weakness and impact on the game is magnified and quite evident to fans.

The Greenberg article in the Post was a good one, I thought, and the guy made sense:

Whatever his pain threshold, Gallinari is better off suffering silently. And D'Antoni is better off finding another way to get an important player going rather just suggesting he suck it up.
"For now I cannot do a lot of shooting like I used to because of my wrist, but I think I just have to find my rhythm," said Gallinari.
And D'Antoni, who threw open the possibility of rotation change after the game, can best help Gallinari locate that rhythm by removing him from the rotation until he feels healthy, then bringing him along off the bench.

Gallo has to be the good warrior and grit his teeth so he looks like a man and does not lose face, while MDA either does not believe him, or has other motives for not sitting him down a few games. D'Antoni has an obligation to his player and to the Knicks to put Gallo in a situation where he can succeed and help the team, and continuing to play him when he should be sitting is a mistake.

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11/2/2010  12:38 AM
Paladin55 wrote:
martin wrote:the fans have a RIGHT to know what Gallo and MDA talk about away from cameras. And both of those guys have an OBLIGATION to tell us exactly is being said and discussed.

So your saying that MDA does not send you text messages asking for input on his major decisions?

Never said that we had that right to know or they had an obligationto tell us anything. From where I'm looking, though, the injury is an issue that is hindering Gallinari's game, and hurting the team's chances to win.

If you take what they say on face value, Gallo has, for the most part, downplayed the wrist, and MDA has not used it as an excuse for his poor performances, now we are hearing that the wrist has been an issue.

Do you believe that the wrist is the major issue here? If it is, what is the point of letting him play if he can't play to his potential and hurts team chemistry? What is the point of letting him play if it might get hurt again?

MDA has to make a judgment call, and from where I am coming from, I'm not sure he made the correct judgment. I think he should have kept him out of the Boston game, and maybe Portland, too.

The Jets kept Revis out when he couldn't play, but when he has been in games, he has not been made to guard the opposition's best receiver all the time, which is what he did last year. On a football team you have enough flexibility to cover-up an injured player- 1 of 11- who stays on the field. You don't have that luxury on a basketball team, where you can only play 5 and a player's weakness and impact on the game is magnified and quite evident to fans.

The Greenberg article in the Post was a good one, I thought, and the guy made sense:

Whatever his pain threshold, Gallinari is better off suffering silently. And D'Antoni is better off finding another way to get an important player going rather just suggesting he suck it up.
"For now I cannot do a lot of shooting like I used to because of my wrist, but I think I just have to find my rhythm," said Gallinari.
And D'Antoni, who threw open the possibility of rotation change after the game, can best help Gallinari locate that rhythm by removing him from the rotation until he feels healthy, then bringing him along off the bench.

Gallo has to be the good warrior and grit his teeth so he looks like a man and does not lose face, while MDA either does not believe him, or has other motives for not sitting him down a few games. D'Antoni has an obligation to his player and to the Knicks to put Gallo in a situation where he can succeed and help the team, and continuing to play him when he should be sitting is a mistake.

OK, Gallo sits. Who gets his minutes? That's the quandary.

If Chandler starts, who is off the bench past Turiaf? Mason? Walker? Who?

Knicks are starting 2 rookies and need someone, anyone, to play the SF and SG off the bench.

Also, you raise the questions as if MDA is not watching the same things we are. The last 2 games Gallo has not played much at all. Give him a little go and see what you got, shut him down if he is not contributing in other areas outside of shooting.

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martin wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
martin wrote:the fans have a RIGHT to know what Gallo and MDA talk about away from cameras. And both of those guys have an OBLIGATION to tell us exactly is being said and discussed.

So your saying that MDA does not send you text messages asking for input on his major decisions?

Never said that we had that right to know or they had an obligationto tell us anything. From where I'm looking, though, the injury is an issue that is hindering Gallinari's game, and hurting the team's chances to win.

If you take what they say on face value, Gallo has, for the most part, downplayed the wrist, and MDA has not used it as an excuse for his poor performances, now we are hearing that the wrist has been an issue.

Do you believe that the wrist is the major issue here? If it is, what is the point of letting him play if he can't play to his potential and hurts team chemistry? What is the point of letting him play if it might get hurt again?

MDA has to make a judgment call, and from where I am coming from, I'm not sure he made the correct judgment. I think he should have kept him out of the Boston game, and maybe Portland, too.

The Jets kept Revis out when he couldn't play, but when he has been in games, he has not been made to guard the opposition's best receiver all the time, which is what he did last year. On a football team you have enough flexibility to cover-up an injured player- 1 of 11- who stays on the field. You don't have that luxury on a basketball team, where you can only play 5 and a player's weakness and impact on the game is magnified and quite evident to fans.

The Greenberg article in the Post was a good one, I thought, and the guy made sense:

Whatever his pain threshold, Gallinari is better off suffering silently. And D'Antoni is better off finding another way to get an important player going rather just suggesting he suck it up.
"For now I cannot do a lot of shooting like I used to because of my wrist, but I think I just have to find my rhythm," said Gallinari.
And D'Antoni, who threw open the possibility of rotation change after the game, can best help Gallinari locate that rhythm by removing him from the rotation until he feels healthy, then bringing him along off the bench.

Gallo has to be the good warrior and grit his teeth so he looks like a man and does not lose face, while MDA either does not believe him, or has other motives for not sitting him down a few games. D'Antoni has an obligation to his player and to the Knicks to put Gallo in a situation where he can succeed and help the team, and continuing to play him when he should be sitting is a mistake.

OK, Gallo sits. Who gets his minutes? That's the quandary.

If Chandler starts, who is off the bench past Turiaf? Mason? Walker? Who?

Knicks are starting 2 rookies and need someone, anyone, to play the SF and SG off the bench.

Also, you raise the questions as if MDA is not watching the same things we are. The last 2 games Gallo has not played much at all. Give him a little go and see what you got, shut him down if he is not contributing in other areas outside of shooting.

To chime in, Martin makes a good point. Gallo only played 15 minutes last game, so obviously MDA is seeing it. However, I think we would be better off sitting Gallo for a week or so until his wrist heals. Why make him look bad to potential trade partners by playing him? Also, why hurt his confidence? Clearly Gallo is hurt because the kid is too good a shooter to be shooting this badly. Now that Randolph is back, we should be able to fill Gallo's roll by giving his minutes to Walker and Randolph.

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11/2/2010  10:26 AM
Vote Early and Often

Wouldn't it be hilarious if The Mayor continued the growth curve he has been on for the first three years of his career and blossomed into a 20 and 10 player?

You can cast your vote wisely today. Or you can be misled by the hype.

Shooting percentages don't lie.

You do the math.

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11/6/2010  11:24 AM
Fashion Alert


The longer Wilson Chandler grows his locks, the better he plays. By mid season he will be a candidate for the NBA All Star team. The baseline dunk was simply a test flight

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11/6/2010  11:32 AM
misterearl wrote:Fashion Alert

The longer Wilson Chandler grows his locks, the better he plays. By mid season he will be a candidate for the NBA All Star team. The baseline dunk was simply a test flight

20 and 8

Let it grow!

Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
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misterearl wrote:Fashion Alert


The longer Wilson Chandler grows his locks, the better he plays. By mid season he will be a candidate for the NBA All Star team. The baseline dunk was simply a test flight

20 and 8

candidate for NBA all star and the look of an ABA all star

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