AnubisADL wrote:

Panos wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:If Anthony Randolph is 2-3 yrs from making noise in the NBA then we need to trade him. Amare will be 30 in 2 yrs. I mean dam are we just going to waste an opportunity to compete to wait and hope Randolph develops?

This doesn't make any sense. So there's no point in grooming a guy that will be ready in 2-3 years?
Successful teams have pipelines of talent.

Ready to do what? We currently have Amare and question marks. IF we get Melo this summer then we can talk about keeping guys and crossing our fingers that they develop. I would prefer to move guys for talent guys that can help us sooner even if they have a lower ceiling. Guys like OJ Mayo come to mind.

So you prefer to always pay high for your players.

Moonangie wrote:

nixluva wrote:NOT!!! Come on now let's not get carried away. I actually think AR could help us a lot if he's able to focus on just a few things. Clearly defense and rebounding, but his looking out of control now is part of the process. We have to let him find his place and he's gonna learn more from making mistakes now so let him get it all out. Then you can show him "see this is why I want you to focus just doing X,Y & Z". You have to let him fall on his face to prove to him that he's not as good as he thinks he is. Then you can get him to focus on the basics.

One day he will be able to put things together, he's just not there yet. He's not gonna look like this all year I promise you. Part of the problem is that 2nd unit has no floor leader either. I think that's why Rautins is gonna eventually get into the rotation as our PG off the bench. TD is a floor leader and Rautins has shown some ability to do that. I think he's gonna get a chance to do more and that will help the 2nd unit to have more continuity and AR to simplify his game and work some PnR and things he can handle at this point.

Good post. I agree, AR will be fine once he brings his ego down a bit and focuses on things that he can handle right now. I also think MDA needs to put him in position to succeed. Shooting from outside is not going to build his confidence.

I think the good thing is he at least seems to recognize that he did something stupid after making those mistakes. Wish he could just calm down a bit and the coach needs to make sure he doesn't burden him with too much in terms of expectation right away. This guy will need time to adjust. His decision making seems to be very poor right now.

loweyecue wrote:

Nalod wrote:I'd like to see him make a pass.

Yeah them cheerleaders just aren't cutting it.

does tend to come down with the rebound and hog the ball rather than pass, run, finish.

BRIGGS wrote:Next game with Amare out--I want to see a spread floor and good minutes for Randolph Gallo and Fields.
This is a game where we can do some things that can help the team because we know what Amare can do.

And NO way do I want to see Roger Mason or Turriaf get those min utes--what a waste. We dont even need Mason with Bill walker.

I agree about Mason, no idea why we even got him here. I would like to see more of Walker and Fields as well.

Youngster Randolph may lose spot in Knicks' rotation

By MARC BERMAN

Last Updated: 5:14 AM, October 15, 2010

Posted: 1:55 AM, October 15, 2010

Anthony Randolph was the big name coming from the Warriors in the David Lee sign-and-trade. But he hasn't played big enough to merit a start tomorrow in Hartford against the Celtics.

The Knicks will sit power forward Amar'e Stoudemire for precautionary reasons, and the lineup shuffle will have Randolph still on the bench, trying to cling to a rotation spot.

With the Knicks playing back-to-back games this weekend, finishing on Sunday at home versus Washington, the medical staff is being overly protective of Stoudemire, who next week celebrates his five-year anniversary since having microfracture left knee surgery.

Stoudemire said yesterday he's "in the best shape of his career."

The power-forward fill-in would figure to be Randolph, the high-flying, 21-year-old key asset supposed to make Knicks fan forget fan favorite Lee, who is averaging 15 points and 10 boards during preseason for Golden State. But after Wednesday's terrible outing versus the Celtics, Randolph is invoking memories of Kenny "Sky" Walker, the No. 5 overall draft pick in 1986 who had a disappointing career with the Knicks.

Coach Mike D'Antoni said Timofey Mozgov would start again at center, Wilson Chandler will move to power forward and either Roger Mason or rookie Landry Fields will start at shooting guard.

D'Antoni said there will be no politics regarding minutes. If Randolph doesn't produce, he will fade from the rotation. The Knicks also got back in the Lee trade Kelenna Azubuike, who hasn't been cleared to practice, and Ronny Turiaf, whose offensive game is so unreliable, he's losing his bid to start at center.

"He doesn't have a real big name," D'Antoni said of Randolph. "He's got big potential, but he hasn't done a whole lot.

"This is a project," D'Antoni said. "It's not something that might happen tomorrow. It might be something that happens in one month, two months, one year, two years. He's 21 years old. You can't lose sight of that. I'm sure he wants it to be tomorrow. We want it to be tomorrow."

Randolph had nine points on Wednesday, but shot just 2 of 6 and had five turnovers. His mistakes in the final three minutes against Boston cost the Knicks the game. He blew an easy dunk, threw away a crosscourt pass and mishandled a bounce pass.

"It was just one of those nights. It happens," Randolph said. "But there are things I can fix. That's the good thing."

D'Antoni said he thinks the world of Randolph's raw talent.

"He should be a stat magnet," he said. "He should go on the floor, and have three blocks, five rebounds, get to the line three times and have two dunks and come out and only played five minutes."

So imagine the disappointment when Randolph played eight minutes in the first half Wednesday, didn't score, get to the free throw line, block a shot or have an assist.

D'Antoni, who heads into the final year of his contract after this season, needs to win now and is not going to wait on Randolph to develop.

"I still have to grow as a player," Randolph said. "Over time, if I keep working hard, I think I can. He has to make decisions. If I fit into that, great. If I don't, I got to make sure I do fit into it."

Stoudemire, on the other, has been everything the Knicks have asked. His 30-point outing in 28 minutes against Boston was impressive, and it's not inconceivable he can compete for the scoring title, because LeBron James and Dwyane Wade will be splitting touches.

"I think the main goal is W's," Stoudemire said. "That's most important. If I need to put up career numbers to make it happen, that's what I'm going to try to do. But it's about winning. I want everyone to have a career year. I've always been a great scorer. Defensively is where the challenge is."

The Knicks still are treating Stoudemire like he's a plate of glass ready to shatter because they don't want to overburden him in preseason. He also could sit out practice after back-to-back games.

"We're paying him a lot of money," D'Antoni said. "He's had injuries. We don't want to be crazy about it. And play him back to back when you don't have to."

Source: http://www.nypost.com/f/print/sports/knicks/growing_pains_cBPc7tkDbvfqwtpcxxjuhO

Sucks to be Randolph.

AnubisADL wrote:Sucks to be Randolph.

nah. guy's got a great opportunity and a great talent base to rise to it. he's gotta focus, learn, apply, persevere. earn his way. it's life challenges. what sucks about that?

Posting entire articles is a waste of valuable screen space. Next time have an original point and get to the point.

misterearl wrote:AnubisADL - no, it sucks to be an envious beat writer on a deadline

Posting entire articles is a waste of valuable screen space. Next time have an original point and get to the point.

Dont tell me what to do in my posts. If you dont want to read it so be it.

I was posting DIRECT quotes from D'Antoni's mouth. I could careless what Berman thinks. D'Antoni doesnt appear to be amused by Randolph's antics. I posted the whole article because I hate when people post snippets of articles and dont link to the source.

AnubisADL wrote:

misterearl wrote:AnubisADL - no, it sucks to be an envious beat writer on a deadline

Posting entire articles is a waste of valuable screen space. Next time have an original point and get to the point.

Dont tell me what to do in my posts. If you dont want to read it so be it.

I was posting DIRECT quotes from D'Antoni's mouth. I could careless what Berman thinks. D'Antoni doesnt appear to be amused by Randolph's antics. I posted the whole article because I hate when people post snippets of articles and dont link to the source.

Berman is like the anti christ around here.....