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Finestrg
Posts: 27296 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/1/2006 Member: #1069 |
10/13/2010 12:02 PM LAST EDITED: 10/13/2010 12:23 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:I would say MDA said he wants Gallo to be more complete and aggressive Agreed. Read it in this morning's Newsday and that's exactly how I interpreted it. He was talking about what Gallo needs to do in order to take the next step this year. I know some of you aren't gonna want to hear this because he's our very own home-grown product and a very nice young man (and don't get me wrong at all -- he is talented, there's room for growth here and I do like him) but I honestly believe he is what he is at this stage -- a glorified outside shooter. He talked about working out in Milan this summer on his explosiveness and perfecting his post up game but in the 1st two pre-season games I haven't really seen it, only tiny glimpses..The bulk of his offensive attack remains the same---he's way too reliant on the 3 ball..He's an exceptional shooter from distance so I never wanna see him pass up open looks but I still see the same player -- not much has changed..I'm gonna need to see much more variety if I'm ever gonna classify him as untradable esp. for a proven monster scorer like Carmelo Anthony. I think some of you, the one's who think you don't deal this guy as part of a reasonable trade offer (a package built around Gallo as the sole centerpiece, NOT Gallo, AR and whatever else) to Denver to get Melo RIGHT NOW are completely out of your minds...Gallo needs to show me much much much much more for me to ever even put him in the same breath as a player like Carmelo Anthony...Now I reserve the right to change my mind --- if I suddenly start seeing a guy that's willing to put the ball on the floor more, finally use that 6"10" height to his advantage in the post and then show that he's also willing to contribute more in other areas (rebound the ball better for a guy that big, playing better defense, etc.), then we can talk about Melo comparisons. Until then, Gallo and Melo aren't even in the same stratosphere...Danilo said he worked hard on these things this summer and I believe him. Now I wanna see it -- if he put some of these new elements to his game on display tonight against the Celtics it wouldn't exactly be a bad thing. LOL. I NEED TO SEE IT!! Dying to see it.. Not only do I feel Gallinari as is isn't as good as Carmelo Anthony (something that should be obvious to the objective fan), I'm not even sure he's as good an overall player as Chase Budinger. Just got done watching the Houston/Net game from China and I'm super impressed with Budinger. Always have been actually -- I watched a ton of Arizona Wildcat hoops over the last few years and I always knew Budinger was a good player. He's carried that right over to the pros..He seems to do everything we all wanna see out of Gallo eventually only this kid does it all much better right now: they're both very good shooters (you can actually make a case that Budinger might prove to have the better stroke eventually when it's all said and done), but Budinger is far & away more fluid, the much better run/jump/move-your-feet athlete, can put it on the floor much better and might actually be a better passer and defender as well. Gallo's got a few inches on him but let's be honest, he really hasn't done anything of note thusfar with that superior height...Thing is we took Gallo 8th in 2008; Budinger went 44th in 2009..Just saying..The Rockets did very well for themselves when they acquired Budinger's rights from Detroit back on draft night 2009..The whole point here is that Gallo's got a lot of work to do IMHO. He's got a lot to prove..I'm glad D'Antoni came out and challenged him like that in the papers...He needed that. |
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Finestrg
Posts: 27296 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/1/2006 Member: #1069 |
10/13/2010 12:04 PM LAST EDITED: 10/13/2010 12:14 PM
Rookie wrote:interesting that you mention the head to head match up. I just went back and watched the highlights (thanks big C) and something really stood out. Every shot Gallo made was from the same spot on the floor behind the arc...Hard to say he was aggressive in his play looked more like he felt comfortable with one shot in one pace and went to it. Good point Rook...I agree -- he was hot from the outside that night and he milked it. That's great -- WE KNOW he can do that and do it well...Now what happens when that shot isn't falling or they make it a point to take it away from him?? We're gonna need to see much more dimension from this guy. More variety..Simple as that. |
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martin
Posts: 76300 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
10/13/2010 12:12 PM
Finestrg wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:I would say MDA said he wants Gallo to be more complete and aggressive why are you coming to a conclusion after 2 preseason games? Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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Allanfan20
Posts: 35947 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #542 USA |
10/13/2010 12:13 PM
Rookie, both of your posts are off. First off, if you are thinking Gallinari should have the handle of Chris Paul or Steve Nash or Tim Hardaway, then yes, he's a terrible ball handler. However, for a big man, he's pretty good and he can get by people. His jerkiness actually throws people defenders off and he manages to keep his control. He sometimes just has to pick his spots better which will give him more confidence.
Secondly, your using a highlite mix to prove your point when the fact is you can't do that. However, I will agree that he DOES shoot to much and needs to do more. He HAS to trust his own game and not always fall back on his shooting, or else, like I said previously, I'll jump on the trade him for Melo bandwagon. “Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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Finestrg
Posts: 27296 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/1/2006 Member: #1069 |
10/13/2010 12:16 PM LAST EDITED: 10/13/2010 12:17 PM
martin wrote:Finestrg wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:I would say MDA said he wants Gallo to be more complete and aggressive You're kidding me, right? Try a whole season last year + these two preseason games. Show us what you've been working on young man. Show me tonight at home against a superior opponent. I need to see more. MDA does too apparently, hence his comments in the papers. |
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Allanfan20
Posts: 35947 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #542 USA |
10/13/2010 12:23 PM
Finestrg wrote:martin wrote:Finestrg wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:I would say MDA said he wants Gallo to be more complete and aggressive I agree with you. The preseason is the experimental season too, so if you're not going to work on your all around game NOW then when are you going to? Gallo has to assert himself more. There were many times the past couple of games that he could have driven but he didn't. This has to be fixed. “Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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iSergio
Posts: 21499 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/13/2010 Member: #3043 USA |
10/13/2010 12:23 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:Rookie, both of your posts are off. First off, if you are thinking Gallinari should have the handle of Chris Paul or Steve Nash or Tim Hardaway, then yes, he's a terrible ball handler. However, for a big man, he's pretty good and he can get by people. His jerkiness actually throws people defenders off and he manages to keep his control. He sometimes just has to pick his spots better which will give him more confidence. As a PF, maybe. As a SF, hell no. Danilo Gallinari doesn't have the handle of an elite wing scorer. That 'Shamgod' move doesn't work in the NBA. You never see Gallo crossing over someone and getting to the basket. All of his drives are with his head down straight to the hoop after catching the ball in motion. |
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Finestrg
Posts: 27296 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/1/2006 Member: #1069 |
10/13/2010 12:24 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:Finestrg wrote:martin wrote:Finestrg wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:I would say MDA said he wants Gallo to be more complete and aggressive Exactly. |
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
10/13/2010 12:24 PM
Probably the best game Gallo ever played, where he was aggressive was his first game in Summer league. After that he became the Gallo we know the three point shooting Gallo. I feel that he is psychologically damaged from running into Tractor Trailer.
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Allanfan20
Posts: 35947 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #542 USA |
10/13/2010 12:32 PM
iSergio wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Rookie, both of your posts are off. First off, if you are thinking Gallinari should have the handle of Chris Paul or Steve Nash or Tim Hardaway, then yes, he's a terrible ball handler. However, for a big man, he's pretty good and he can get by people. His jerkiness actually throws people defenders off and he manages to keep his control. He sometimes just has to pick his spots better which will give him more confidence. He doesn't HAVE to be an elite scorer and he doesn't have to cross people up. That's not his game. He can get by just putting his head down and going and using a quick but strong jab step to give him that opportunity (ala Allan Houston, the guy I compared him to when we drafted him). Crossing people up is more of a little man thing anyway. It's not nescessary for him. In fact, it would probably mess his game up and make him more guardable because the better defenders would steal it from him if he started doing that. I don't ever want to see him try it unless he absolutely has to. Gallo. Either just go or give a jab step and go or post up or go and pull up for a mid range shot. No fanciness or flashiness. Just substance. Use your skills to draw fouls as you do when you do drive. Don't listen to iSerio. “Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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Marv
Posts: 35540 Alba Posts: 69 Joined: 9/2/2002 Member: #315 |
10/13/2010 12:40 PM
that was a great pass from al jr. on that video. i miss him already.
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Rookie
Posts: 27049 Alba Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2008 Member: #2274 |
10/13/2010 12:46 PM
iSergio wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Rookie, both of your posts are off. First off, if you are thinking Gallinari should have the handle of Chris Paul or Steve Nash or Tim Hardaway, then yes, he's a terrible ball handler. However, for a big man, he's pretty good and he can get by people. His jerkiness actually throws people defenders off and he manages to keep his control. He sometimes just has to pick his spots better which will give him more confidence. Thing is, the PF job is already taken.... |
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Elite
Posts: 26372 Alba Posts: 23 Joined: 12/30/2003 Member: #510 |
10/13/2010 12:50 PM
dont read the article, its out of context.. you gotta listen to the real interview. He makes a big point about how if he starts driving it more he doesnt know what kind of player he is.. hes a shooter and he wants him to be a shooter. He does say he wants him to be more aggressive... But you can tell he is really encouraging Gallo not to CHANGE his game...
Someone wrote that Gallo turns the ball over driving to the hoop.... I beg to differ, he gets fouled almost EVERY time he drives to the hoop. Hes GOOD at driving!!! |
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Panos
Posts: 30089 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2004 Member: #520 |
10/13/2010 12:55 PM
I was excited as much as anyone else when we hired D'Antoni, but I'm really going to be watching him this year.
I fear I may have overestimated him. |
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
10/13/2010 1:20 PM
what bothered me was gallinari's response - he basically said that he doesn't think he needs to score big every night and be agressive all the time. i think that's not a great mindframe for him. and it also means he and coach are not on the same page... oy.
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Knixkik
Posts: 35464 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
10/13/2010 1:23 PM
Rookie wrote:iSergio wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Rookie, both of your posts are off. First off, if you are thinking Gallinari should have the handle of Chris Paul or Steve Nash or Tim Hardaway, then yes, he's a terrible ball handler. However, for a big man, he's pretty good and he can get by people. His jerkiness actually throws people defenders off and he manages to keep his control. He sometimes just has to pick his spots better which will give him more confidence. And the SF slot will be taken if Melo comes. Gallo will have to become a SG part time if that is the case. I don't see this as an issue if he continues to develop. Peja and Hedo had no problem playing SG part time. |