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Nalod
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10/12/2010  2:05 PM

Im no docter, so I have no opinion.

I don't know if he is damaged goods now and will get better, or that bone on bone thing gets worse.

"To starphuch or not to starphuch? That is the question.

George Shinn can't hold on to his stars.

Phuch.

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Vmart
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10/12/2010  2:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/12/2010  2:10 PM
Since the Knicks fans are in rebuilding mode and really honestly have no aspiration to win a chip. Getting CP3 in his injured state would work very well for the KNicks. His value is low and his contract expires in two years. If he performs well then resign him to a contract. If he doesn't just let him walk, anyway you look at it getting CP3 now is a plus.
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10/12/2010  3:28 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/12/2010  3:30 PM
You have to buy Chris Paul, and I would say that the lower the price the better,

This is a 25ish point guard coming off a knee surgery. Being that young, that short and that weight are all factors that point to him recovering from the surgery. Plus the fact that he never really cashed in on his super star status, makes him a buy in my eyes all day. The only thing you could have against CP3 is his contract if he got the "Max" deal extension.


Since this will be a lost season any way waiting for Melo, I would trade anything for CP3. Gallo or AR with filler should get a deal done a this rate, but if he picks it up than they just might charge ya Dub'll (/Ross Voice)

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10/12/2010  4:17 PM
Vmart wrote:Since the Knicks fans are in rebuilding mode and really honestly have no aspiration to win a chip. Getting CP3 in his injured state would work very well for the KNicks. His value is low and his contract expires in two years. If he performs well then resign him to a contract. If he doesn't just let him walk, anyway you look at it getting CP3 now is a plus.

Good points, Vmart. But again, only if the trade is fair. I'd give up more for CP3 than Melo since we can ostensibly sign Melo this summer as a FA. IN fact, I'd pay dollars to donuts that if we already have CP3 here from a trade, Melo is sure to sign as a FA since he would be in his dream "tres amigos" scenario right away.

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10/12/2010  4:32 PM
It's not like Gallo and AR have been injury free models of health. They are all young enough that if you take a risk on one you can take a risk on another. While I had signed up for trading either for Melo there was some hesitation in that, but CP3 >>> Melo in my book.
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10/12/2010  11:10 PM
There will never be an ideal scenario to get talent like CP3 for donuts unless there is a high risk that he isn't back to his old self. To me, he is worth the risk because of his proven super star abilities. His WP48 in 2008-2009 was .451 (he produced 28 wins for the Hornets that season) which is absolutely unheard of unless you are Michael Jordan/Magic Johnson.

http://dberri.wordpress.com/2009/10/13/is-this-beginning-of-the-tragedy-of-chris-paul/

If you are in a position to get a player like Paul, you do it. These types of players are truly special, and are usually tied to their franchises for their whole careers (e.g., Duncan, Robinson, Hakeem, Magic, Bird, etc).

Rose is not the answer.
TMS
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10/13/2010  4:16 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
TMS wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:I would rather draft a PG or trade for one that fits the offense, but not his current team like Flynn or Maynor.

Taylor, Shumpert, Fredette and Lee should be available for our usual draft pick purchase at the end of the 1st round.

you would rather draft or trade for guys like that over CP3? now i've heard everything.

Before that surgery, I gather I would want CP3 over all of those guys put together if we're talking about late first rounders. However, if this surgery diminished CP3 so much that his quickness (Which he relies on so much) is just gone, then we're talking about a whole new ball of wax. It probably isn't worth going after him if that's the case. It's something we'll have to wait and see on though.

i don't care if CP3 is half of what he once was, i'd still take him over all those guys JW just listed put together it's not even a question to me... this board has become crazy.

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10/13/2010  7:00 AM
The only PG that ever really came back from microfracture surgery was Kidd. And there were 2 major reasons for that. First is at 6-4, two hundred whatever pounds, he still had an advantage over PG's. A lot of Kidd's orchestrating came by being able to be physical with opposing PG's causing mismatches. Second, Kidd''s game was never based on speed or athleticism. He could run but was never super fast or quick.

Paul is 6-0, and light. Installing him in this type of offense worries me. If we were talking about getting a guy like Deron Williams coming off the same surgery, I would be a lot less concerned.

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10/13/2010  7:38 AM
All I'm saying is that a guy like Maynor, who is about as pure a pick and roll guy as there is, could potentially come cheap and fit the offense and Amar'e very well. Maynor's only drawback is that he's a mid-range shooter, not a bomber like D'Antoni would like if he were building a PG from scratch.

I don't know enough about the college guys to say if there's a perfect player for us in the late first, but there are a bunch of PG's with size that will be available in that range.

If Felton does indeed have problems running pick and roll with Amar'e for some reason, then we need a PG who can set him up. Its only been two preseason games and I think Felton can do it, but I've been saying all offseason that we need to have a backup PG who can distribute anyway.

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10/13/2010  8:18 AM
knickstorrents wrote:There will never be an ideal scenario to get talent like CP3 for donuts unless there is a high risk that he isn't back to his old self. To me, he is worth the risk because of his proven super star abilities. His WP48 in 2008-2009 was .451 (he produced 28 wins for the Hornets that season) which is absolutely unheard of unless you are Michael Jordan/Magic Johnson.

http://dberri.wordpress.com/2009/10/13/is-this-beginning-of-the-tragedy-of-chris-paul/

If you are in a position to get a player like Paul, you do it. These types of players are truly special, and are usually tied to their franchises for their whole careers (e.g., Duncan, Robinson, Hakeem, Magic, Bird, etc).

Which begs the question of why the Hornets would give him up in any kind of deal.

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10/13/2010  12:46 PM
TMS wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
TMS wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:I would rather draft a PG or trade for one that fits the offense, but not his current team like Flynn or Maynor.

Taylor, Shumpert, Fredette and Lee should be available for our usual draft pick purchase at the end of the 1st round.

you would rather draft or trade for guys like that over CP3? now i've heard everything.

Before that surgery, I gather I would want CP3 over all of those guys put together if we're talking about late first rounders. However, if this surgery diminished CP3 so much that his quickness (Which he relies on so much) is just gone, then we're talking about a whole new ball of wax. It probably isn't worth going after him if that's the case. It's something we'll have to wait and see on though.

i don't care if CP3 is half of what he once was, i'd still take him over all those guys JW just listed put together it's not even a question to me... this board has become crazy.

Yeah, but if he's half as good, are you giving him max money and possibly trading the farm for him so you can get him over those guys? I'm NOT willing to do that. For the record, there is no such thing as a half as good CP3. He's either the superstar he is, or he's really declining because of that injury.

If he's the superstar he is, I'm giving up a lot for him.

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TMS
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10/14/2010  2:14 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
TMS wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
TMS wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:I would rather draft a PG or trade for one that fits the offense, but not his current team like Flynn or Maynor.

Taylor, Shumpert, Fredette and Lee should be available for our usual draft pick purchase at the end of the 1st round.

you would rather draft or trade for guys like that over CP3? now i've heard everything.

Before that surgery, I gather I would want CP3 over all of those guys put together if we're talking about late first rounders. However, if this surgery diminished CP3 so much that his quickness (Which he relies on so much) is just gone, then we're talking about a whole new ball of wax. It probably isn't worth going after him if that's the case. It's something we'll have to wait and see on though.

i don't care if CP3 is half of what he once was, i'd still take him over all those guys JW just listed put together it's not even a question to me... this board has become crazy.

Yeah, but if he's half as good, are you giving him max money and possibly trading the farm for him so you can get him over those guys? I'm NOT willing to do that. For the record, there is no such thing as a half as good CP3. He's either the superstar he is, or he's really declining because of that injury.

If he's the superstar he is, I'm giving up a lot for him.

LJ was clearly on the decline when he got here & we paid him big bucks... he was one of our best players during our best years & i have zero regret that we invested in bringing him here... i would not have traded having guys who couldn't hold his jock on this roster over him during those years either, i don't care if they were playing for the league minimum.

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