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knicks1248
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10/4/2010  9:36 PM
If you ever have doubts about AR just know that GS always trades away there super stars, they have a very good scouting team, but they have no patience.

Instead of trading for the proper role players to surround there stars, they trade there stars for role players, suck it up with a losing season, then draft more stars, and do it all over again. On the flip side, none of there stars have won it all( webber, spree, tim hardaway, jamison, areanas, j rich, mullen, mitch rich..i know there's more) they had lots of success, but none every got a ring...im just saying though

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10/4/2010  10:05 PM
s3231 wrote:Wasn't a fan at all of how he played offensively yesterday but I'm with BRIGGS in that you don't want to curtail his development by limiting him on the offensive end.

He just needs to get better with shot selection and that should hopefully come with time (and patience on our end). He's only 21 years old so we can't expect him to be an all-star right away. Hell, if he was already polished, we wouldn't have him right now.

I think someone like Amare will be great for AR.

Until he develops a reliable shot, he should stick to taking his guy off the dribble and getting to the stripe. Add in all those David Lee type put-backs, alley oops, and fast break slams and we probably got ourselves a slick scorer in AR. If he learns to pass the ball (and I think he will) we could have ourselves one helluva bad ass PF/C on our hands. Can't wait to see what he has against NBA competition.

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10/4/2010  10:11 PM
Moonangie wrote:
s3231 wrote:Wasn't a fan at all of how he played offensively yesterday but I'm with BRIGGS in that you don't want to curtail his development by limiting him on the offensive end.

He just needs to get better with shot selection and that should hopefully come with time (and patience on our end). He's only 21 years old so we can't expect him to be an all-star right away. Hell, if he was already polished, we wouldn't have him right now.

I think someone like Amare will be great for AR.

Until he develops a reliable shot, he should stick to taking his guy off the dribble and getting to the stripe. Add in all those David Lee type put-backs, alley oops, and fast break slams and we probably got ourselves a slick scorer in AR. If he learns to pass the ball (and I think he will) we could have ourselves one helluva bad ass PF/C on our hands. Can't wait to see what he has against NBA competition.

I see him taking more jumpers then anything, in this system, that mid range spot is a gimme for a PF... there usually wide open. Amare has such a balance with it, he's a compete nightmare to guard.

Consider it a blessing, he'll be learning from him firts hand

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10/5/2010  1:33 PM
We have a choice to either "set the tone" with Mozgov protecting the paint and bring AR in off the bench to torture the opposing five man on offense or start with AR and when they start trying to bully him we bring in Moz the enforcer.

Its not a bad choice to have. If we had a real 2 guard and a real backup point we would have what looks like a planned NBA roster for the first time since the Steph/KT Knicks looked reasonably put together.

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10/5/2010  1:42 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:We have a choice to either "set the tone" with Mozgov protecting the paint and bring AR in off the bench to torture the opposing five man on offense or start with AR and when they start trying to bully him we bring in Moz the enforcer.

Its not a bad choice to have. If we had a real 2 guard and a real backup point we would have what looks like a planned NBA roster for the first time since the Steph/KT Knicks looked reasonably put together.

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10/5/2010  1:42 PM
Again I repeat that the kid CAN PASS! Don't be so stuck on what you saw in one game. If you look at what he was doing in GS just before he went down, he avg'd 2.3 asts for a month with some nice high assist games thrown in. He's got to be allowed to calm down and not feel like he has to throw it up everytime he touches the ball. That is a symptom of wanting to prove he's a good scorer, rather than just knowing that and letting things come to him. All this kid needs is some time to relax and not feel like he's never gonna see the ball, so he has to shoot everytime he gets it. He'll be fine.
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10/5/2010  2:44 PM

From what I saw in the first half I can see why Nellie was down on him.

If Larry Brown was his coach he would be on the bench until he got it. Can't argue with that either.

YOu want players who listen and play smart.

AR in the second half did his thing and was impressive with his skills.

But in crunch time, with a game on the line this kid cannot be trusted yet.

I see elements of talent but a learning curve ahead. He is one part Starks and one part Nate.

No fan can really project if his left and right brain get it togetehr. We can hope.

He is worth a risk.

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10/5/2010  3:07 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:We have a choice to either "set the tone" with Mozgov protecting the paint and bring AR in off the bench to torture the opposing five man on offense or start with AR and when they start trying to bully him we bring in Moz the enforcer.

Its not a bad choice to have. If we had a real 2 guard and a real backup point we would have what looks like a planned NBA roster for the first time since the Steph/KT Knicks looked reasonably put together.

I feel very confident that TD is a competent backup PG. He's more of a scorer than playmaker, but he is also a noob and will only get better this season.

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10/5/2010  3:32 PM
Moonangie wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:We have a choice to either "set the tone" with Mozgov protecting the paint and bring AR in off the bench to torture the opposing five man on offense or start with AR and when they start trying to bully him we bring in Moz the enforcer.

Its not a bad choice to have. If we had a real 2 guard and a real backup point we would have what looks like a planned NBA roster for the first time since the Steph/KT Knicks looked reasonably put together.

I feel very confident that TD is a competent backup PG. He's more of a scorer than playmaker, but he is also a noob and will only get better this season.

dude is pushing the ball a little more this year and keeping his dribble a little longer. Wanna see what else he has tomorrow.

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10/5/2010  5:52 PM
s3231 wrote:Wasn't a fan at all of how he played offensively yesterday but I'm with BRIGGS in that you don't want to curtail his development by limiting him on the offensive end.

He just needs to get better with shot selection and that should hopefully come with time (and patience on our end). He's only 21 years old so we can't expect him to be an all-star right away. Hell, if he was already polished, we wouldn't have him right now.

I think someone like Amare will be great for AR.

As long as he plays team ball--there should be no leash put on Randolph other than play hard and look to keep your game 16 feet and in. There has to be some leeway for players to play through--we could say Gallo dont take this shot--but Gallo is learning and he's going to be great. Same withing with randolph--the guy went 7-11 and people are ranking on him. Sorry but he's an impact player off the bench who we want to get 16-20 points out of--that means he needs shots and some latitude to make plays and @ 21 and coming off injury some leeway for a few mistakes. Good players in this league take a lot of shots--some of them not always good one's. If I have a guy going 7-11 then he is doing something very right.

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10/5/2010  6:09 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
s3231 wrote:Wasn't a fan at all of how he played offensively yesterday but I'm with BRIGGS in that you don't want to curtail his development by limiting him on the offensive end.

He just needs to get better with shot selection and that should hopefully come with time (and patience on our end). He's only 21 years old so we can't expect him to be an all-star right away. Hell, if he was already polished, we wouldn't have him right now.

I think someone like Amare will be great for AR.

As long as he plays team ball--there should be no leash put on Randolph other than play hard and look to keep your game 16 feet and in. There has to be some leeway for players to play through--we could say Gallo dont take this shot--but Gallo is learning and he's going to be great. Same withing with randolph--the guy went 7-11 and people are ranking on him. Sorry but he's an impact player off the bench who we want to get 16-20 points out of--that means he needs shots and some latitude to make plays and @ 21 and coming off injury some leeway for a few mistakes. Good players in this league take a lot of shots--some of them not always good one's. If I have a guy going 7-11 then he is doing something very right.

AR is not a finished product and since his upside is so high, I agree that you have to let him play a bit. That's why he's great coming off the bench. He can go against the other teams reserves and destroy them. He'll gain confidence and learn to calm down and not shoot every time he touches it. I think too much has been made of this 1st outing tho. How can you form a pattern after one game?

What I saw was a supremely athletic and skilled player. He was a bit tight on his early shots and didn't have good form or balance, but once he got going with some drives he loosened up. I'm very happy with what I saw so far. I expect him to grow a lot this year and be a real threat come playoff time.

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10/6/2010  12:12 AM
While not as extreme as Mosgov, Randolph is also a bit of a late bloomer - having not played competitive basketball until late high school. He's just learning the game. He PHYSICALLY can do everything - and perhaps much like with Al Harrington, every shot feels good.

It would be nice if he tightened up his shot selection a bit - limit him a bit so he's trained himself that he should be shooting 50%+...

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10/6/2010  10:15 AM
Hopefully, playing with and against Amar'e will show him that his dominate skill is going to the rim. When he embraces that, his mid range game will progress, as teams will try to stop his moves to the hole.
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