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umynot
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10/4/2010  12:33 PM
His arms are so long!!...... He reached in on that steal and fast break from 4 feet away from player
and continued straight into a dribble up the court as good as anyone his size. Long outlets better then
anyone I seen in a long time!!... Passing in general for him seems fluid.

It's so refreshing to see how much taller of a team we have this year. It's also very exciting
to see how athletic all these bigs are.... If they continue to be active and smart we might be a very
good team on both sides of the ball.

I say start Mozgov when we come back to states and see how he plays with starting unit.
I prefer Turiaf off the bench anyway...

Either way I hope we keep this team in tact maybe just add another PG ...... Every other position looks
solid. C with Mozgov Turiaf AR and STAT we are set..... PF we are SUPER STRONG!!... SF I also believe we
are set!! ( Sorry Melo).... SG with Ill Will and Walker I feel good .... Even Douglas looked good as a 2
PG Felton had flashes but even if he plays out of his mind ( which I dont see... Sorry) we are a injury
away from being real week here!!!!!

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martin
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10/4/2010  12:37 PM
one thing I saw out there... he camps out in the paint on defense. Gonna be called for 3 seconds a lot before he gets used to that in the NBA.
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10/4/2010  12:48 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Wilt, i think he has the potentialy to be more like hakeem, or at least a poor mans version

Interesting that you would mention the Dream. Why isn't a former player like him considered when looking for a big man coach?

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10/4/2010  12:53 PM
Mosgov is already 24 yrs old. I dont see him getting much better than he is now. He has been playing professionally for awhile now and still has no left hand. Of course he can fine tune things but I dont expect him to be finishing with hi left hand anytime soon.
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10/4/2010  12:56 PM
I just want him to be better than the big Cs in Utah.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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10/4/2010  1:25 PM

Mozgov is Left handed. If he used it, it would not be fair.
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10/4/2010  1:31 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Mosgov is already 24 yrs old. I dont see him getting much better than he is now. He has been playing professionally for awhile now and still has no left hand. Of course he can fine tune things but I dont expect him to be finishing with hi left hand anytime soon.

jeez dude, you need to pay attention more.

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10/4/2010  1:36 PM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Mosgov is already 24 yrs old. I dont see him getting much better than he is now. He has been playing professionally for awhile now and still has no left hand. Of course he can fine tune things but I dont expect him to be finishing with hi left hand anytime soon.

jeez dude, you need to pay attention more.

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10/4/2010  2:10 PM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Mosgov is already 24 yrs old. I dont see him getting much better than he is now. He has been playing professionally for awhile now and still has no left hand. Of course he can fine tune things but I dont expect him to be finishing with hi left hand anytime soon.

jeez dude, you need to pay attention more.

How anyone can make such a comment is beyond me. Moz is improving at an exponential rate. He's getting it and his skill will catch up with his raw talent. Not a good idea to go on record betting against this kid.

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10/4/2010  2:18 PM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Mosgov is already 24 yrs old. I dont see him getting much better than he is now. He has been playing professionally for awhile now and still has no left hand. Of course he can fine tune things but I dont expect him to be finishing with hi left hand anytime soon.

jeez dude, you need to pay attention more.

Darko Milicic is a better NBA center than Mosgov. I suppose some rather be in denial. Mosgov is prone to committing stupid fouls and stands in the paint way too long.

Point Blank MosGov isnt better than Deandre Jordan or McGee and they collected splinters last year.

Please tell me how Mosgov is even better than the likes of Dan Gadzuric?

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10/4/2010  2:24 PM
Sangfroid wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Wilt, i think he has the potentialy to be more like hakeem, or at least a poor mans version

Interesting that you would mention the Dream. Why isn't a former player like him considered when looking for a big man coach?

Kobe Bryant worked w Dream last year to learn post up moves- I would love to see him on the bench instead of Herb.

If you are still following the team and reading sites like this, there is nothing, short of your own demise, that is going to throw you off this train.
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10/4/2010  2:38 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Mosgov is already 24 yrs old. I dont see him getting much better than he is now. He has been playing professionally for awhile now and still has no left hand. Of course he can fine tune things but I dont expect him to be finishing with hi left hand anytime soon.

Check out BigC's Timo Highlight. His drive to the basket were he hung on the air. He used his left hand.

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10/4/2010  2:47 PM
Moz may not be a finished product but he seems to have enough game to contribute right away. A few months practicing with Amar'e should do wonders for his development.
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10/4/2010  3:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/4/2010  3:30 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Mosgov is already 24 yrs old. I dont see him getting much better than he is now. He has been playing professionally for awhile now and still has no left hand. Of course he can fine tune things but I dont expect him to be finishing with hi left hand anytime soon.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/onealje01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/millebr01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/westda01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thomaku01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/laimbbi01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mutomdi01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bogutan01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cambyma01.html

I could do this all day. If you think Mosgov has a low ceiling feel free to say why. Age isnt one though... if you know anything about the NBA its that many many many big men, and some great big men simply dont fint their game until their mid or even later 20s. Camby didnt rebound until he was 26. Lots of bigs just take a few years. Hell Mutumbo was better after 30 than before 30. Bigs are simply different.

Mosgov being 24 is a positive. If he was some 19 year old over hyped Euro like Skita or Lampe I would be more ho hum, but at 24 he's ready to be an NBA player IMO.

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10/4/2010  3:50 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gadzuda01.html
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10/4/2010  3:56 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Mosgov is already 24 yrs old. I dont see him getting much better than he is now. He has been playing professionally for awhile now and still has no left hand. Of course he can fine tune things but I dont expect him to be finishing with hi left hand anytime soon.

jeez dude, you need to pay attention more.

Darko Milicic is a better NBA center than Mosgov. I suppose some rather be in denial. Mosgov is prone to committing stupid fouls and stands in the paint way too long.

Point Blank MosGov isnt better than Deandre Jordan or McGee and they collected splinters last year.

Please tell me how Mosgov is even better than the likes of Dan Gadzuric?

The 'Gov-ernator basically is McGee with more fundamentals. He's a 7 footer with athleticism that can block it into the tenth row. Will he foul out in fifteen minutes? Sure will. Did McGee have to adjust to that as well as Randolph and Jordan? Yup.

All he has to be is an impact bench player for certain game situations. From what I've seen, he can definitely handle that.

We have to play AR at the pivot at times to put the best five on the floor, so he's not going to play a ton. When he's on the floor though, you'll know it.

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10/4/2010  3:58 PM
AnubisADL wrote:http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gadzuda01.html

after fish gave you a bucketload of examples you come back with 1 example in the opposite direction and think this makes an argument or adds anything relevant? AnubisADL, I am not sure how you expect to make points on this site, but this is exactly how NOT to do it.

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10/4/2010  4:21 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Wilt, i think he has the potentialy to be more like hakeem, or at least a poor mans version

I was going to post yesterday, all he needs is a dreamy sky hook. Ah one can wish.

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10/4/2010  4:27 PM
loweyecue wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Wilt, i think he has the potentialy to be more like hakeem, or at least a poor mans version

I was going to post yesterday, all he needs is a dreamy sky hook. Ah one can wish.

I distinctly remember in the telecast yesterday that the assistant coaches added the sky hook to his practice regimen, something his previous coaches didn't work on with him.

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10/4/2010  4:29 PM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gadzuda01.html

after fish gave you a bucketload of examples you come back with 1 example in the opposite direction and think this makes an argument or adds anything relevant? AnubisADL, I am not sure how you expect to make points on this site, but this is exactly how NOT to do it.

Dude seriously he was posting dudes that were lottery picks. Andrew Bogut(1st pick)? Marcus Camby(2nd pick)? Jermaine O'neal(17th pick out of HIGHSCHOOL)? Dikembembe Motumbo(4th pick)? Kurt Thomas (10th pick)?

I post a guy taken in the 2nd round and you come at me sideways. Come on now. Mosgov wasn't a lottery pick for a reason. Mosgov has DIDDLY in common with those guys he posted.

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