joec32033 wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:joec32033 wrote:You guys need to really lay off this kid. All blogs I read tend to run into one another and bloggers are nothing more than amateur beat writers without the access.
I can remember times when guys like Vescey, Lupica (when he wrote a lot about the knicks), hell even the almighty Hahn (good beat writer but honestly the flavor of the day) has reported items were gonna happen and didn't.
So the kid is 15. Big deal. I have not noticed one difference from the blogging of him, Tommy Dee, and any other blogger that I read. Hell the other bloggers picked up on this and not one refuted it with his "sources". So they are all as irrespobisble as Dan, no?
I can understand the point Briggs is trying to make but it could have been made better because I read it the same as Dan. It came off as Briggs saying "You're 15 and stupid and shouldn't be doing this". He may not have meant it that way but I can see where it can be percieved as such.
Dan took a report and ran with it (wasn't even his originally, he just blogged info from an article). Turned out to be false (which even happens to pro's with access) which he actually stepped up and took responsibility for (which professionals NEVER do, they just move on) and he is now catching crap because him taking responsibility is being twisted into a negative about cheap marketing.
Dan, I am not absolving you from some blame. If you logged an article on your info, you should have linked your sources instead of passing it off as some inside info-you admitted it wasn't.
Props for your hard work and taking responsibility though. Keep doing what you love, regardless of the critics. Critics criticize. It's what they do.
I would say that, yes, it is cheap marketing when you come to a FORUM to apologize and then get defensive about the opinions that originate from the apology.
You can disagree with my stance all you want, but as someone who got paid to report, I offered legitimate criticism.
I am under the assumption he wants his blog to be viewed as an independent news source and not some fan site from a 15-year-old.
Anyway, it was professional advice. News sources make mistakes, and issue retractions. There, often times, is fallout from that and you learn and grow from the mistake.
I can definately see your point but he also issued an apology on his blog-if I remember correctly.
I just state that I have seen several bloggers pop up on here to hype their blog and have never seen backlash on them like this.
I also take exception to the fact that people are using the whole "you're 15 and and you don't know anything" cover for this. Don't like his blog because of misinformation, his writing style, his web design, fine...whatever. But as I have said older bloggers have done the same thing without having to deal with some BS age cheap shot.
The age point I can agree with... the work product is the only thing relevant to the discussion.
I think most blogs, especially sports blogs, are junk. I'm not pleased with the beat writers, but I'd rather read opinions here than a blog. Or I'd rather just listen to WFAN.
There are exceptions though. I will give Big C props for his blog. He offers unique content and corresponds with the players. I think that's outstanding.
And there are others, like Mark Cuban's:
Criticism
Jul 5th 2006 10:47AMCriticism.
The easiest thing in the world to avoid is criticism. All you have to do is nothing. Do nothing of your own free will. Do only what is asked of you and nothing more, and and chances are you will never be criticized .
For those of us who set goals and want to have an impact in the business world in particular , criticism is part of the job description. You have to be able to be able to take it and sometimes you cant be afraid to dish it out.
Although criticism is typically perceived as a negative, it can be one of the most positive and motivating forces any of us can experience. The key to turning criticism into a positive is understanding the nature of the criticism.
In a nuthsell it comes down to content. Is the criticism based on content or not.
Ive received a ton of criticism in the media over the last few weeks. People criticized where, when and how I did things. Not a single person criticized or challenged why.
When I was criticized for our Day & Date movie release strategy at HDNet Films, people speculated what might or could be to the movie industry, but no one criticized or challenged why we did it, to create value for HDNet and to give consumers more choice and value.
When we started Sharesleuth, I was criticized for not working within traditional journalistic norms, but no one challenged the validity or need of the company
When I wrote that the Naked Short “conspiracy” is no conspiracy at all, but rather a way of misdirecting attention from underperforming companies, I was called part of some wild conspiracy run by a “Sith Lord” by Patrick Byrne, CEO of Overstock.com, without any evidence to support his wild claim or contradict mine.
the list goes on and on.
I get criticized a lot.
So what.
if someone says something of value. I will learn from it. If they criticize to fill up a column or to hear themselves talk, I can get a good laugh out of it.
What it all comes down to is content and effort.
If someone puts in the effort and challenges the content and makes me rethink my position, I come out ahead. So criticize away.
One housekeeping note.
i will turn on comments. If you write about anything off topic. It will be deleted. If you try to stretch to get in a “Im great, you suck” type comment, it will be deleted. If you try to sneak in any comments related to player transactions in any way. It will be deleted.
Bottom line, if it doesnt add value to the discussion, it will be deleted.
Take it as honest criticism
http://blogmaverick.com/2006/07/05/criticism/
