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kam77
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9/30/2010  3:32 PM
Curry, Mozgov, AR, and a #1 pick for Melo.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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9/30/2010  4:15 PM
False Pretense Based On False Witness

kam77 - read my lips

Squash the trade chatter because it just doesn't matter

NYKBocker - (Mozgov) is going to be a foul magnet both ways. He will be fouled a lot due to his sheer size.

Foul magnet?

Based on the fact that:

A. Mozgov is a slow, lumbering oaf at 7'1, 270

B. he is a quick study

C. he has yet to play a single game against an NBA opponent

D. you just pulled that tired cliche out of your butt

When NBA referees swallow their whistles for Mosgov, they refuse a drink to wash them down

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10/1/2010  8:43 AM
Marv wrote:will the jumbotron in msg flash images of ivan drago when timo goes to the line?

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10/1/2010  8:57 AM
BRIGGS wrote:I always feel you should play the guy who earned the job. Just becasue Mosgov is a rookie--that means nothing. The guy is the only true legit 5 man at 7-1 270 and I would prefer to go with him if he is really playing well--I would always want to play a big man like that--we could use another one. Randolph can get his minutes as 6th man kind of like Lamar Odom.

10 man line up

7-1 270 Mosgov
6-10 245 Amare
6-10 235 Gallo
6-8 225 Cahndler
6-1 200 felton
6th man 6-11 230 Randolph
7th 6-1 190 Douglas
8 6-10 250 Ron Turriaf
9 6-6 225 B Walker
10 6-5 200 Mason

What makes you think that Ronnie Turiaf isn't earning it in practice?

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BRIGGS
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10/1/2010  9:54 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I always feel you should play the guy who earned the job. Just becasue Mosgov is a rookie--that means nothing. The guy is the only true legit 5 man at 7-1 270 and I would prefer to go with him if he is really playing well--I would always want to play a big man like that--we could use another one. Randolph can get his minutes as 6th man kind of like Lamar Odom.

10 man line up

7-1 270 Mosgov
6-10 245 Amare
6-10 235 Gallo
6-8 225 Cahndler
6-1 200 felton
6th man 6-11 230 Randolph
7th 6-1 190 Douglas
8 6-10 250 Ron Turriaf
9 6-6 225 B Walker
10 6-5 200 Mason

What makes you think that Ronnie Turiaf isn't earning it in practice?

If you asked me BRIGGS who would you rather play Turriaf or Landry Fields--I would say Fields. When I see RT--I don't see him as a *fit* for this team other than being a leader rah rah--energy guy in FT or special circumstance. He's never been a great player. Now can he do some things--of course but I think that may be better suited for another team. We couldve used a shooter or even picks--maybe a team wants a big like Turriaf. I still think he could easily be replaced by Barron who has skill sets that fit the Knicks more.

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10/1/2010  1:16 PM
Turiaf does not look as big as he used to before his heart surgery.
BRIGGS
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BRIGGS wrote:I always feel you should play the guy who earned the job. Just becasue Mosgov is a rookie--that means nothing. The guy is the only true legit 5 man at 7-1 270 and I would prefer to go with him if he is really playing well--I would always want to play a big man like that--we could use another one. Randolph can get his minutes as 6th man kind of like Lamar Odom.

10 man line up

7-1 270 Mosgov
6-10 245 Amare
6-10 235 Gallo
6-8 225 Cahndler
6-1 200 felton
6th man 6-11 230 Randolph
7th 6-1 190 Douglas
8 6-10 250 Ron Turriaf
9 6-6 225 B Walker
10 6-5 200 Mason

Actually looking at this roster--we could use another big body guy to replace Turriaf who is more catered to scoring. If Glen davis and the C's are having troubles together Id love to do a deal where we can get Davis(and hes on the last year of his contract)to shore up a solid back 5.

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10/1/2010  2:46 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I always feel you should play the guy who earned the job. Just becasue Mosgov is a rookie--that means nothing. The guy is the only true legit 5 man at 7-1 270 and I would prefer to go with him if he is really playing well--I would always want to play a big man like that--we could use another one. Randolph can get his minutes as 6th man kind of like Lamar Odom.

10 man line up

7-1 270 Mosgov
6-10 245 Amare
6-10 235 Gallo
6-8 225 Cahndler
6-1 200 felton
6th man 6-11 230 Randolph
7th 6-1 190 Douglas
8 6-10 250 Ron Turriaf
9 6-6 225 B Walker
10 6-5 200 Mason

Actually looking at this roster--we could use another big body guy to replace Turriaf who is more catered to scoring. If Glen davis and the C's are having troubles together Id love to do a deal where we can get Davis(and hes on the last year of his contract)to shore up a solid back 5.


I'm not so worried about that. We can always slide Amare in to the C position, and Chandler or Randolph at PF.
That's enough scoring from those 2 positions.
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10/1/2010  2:47 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I always feel you should play the guy who earned the job. Just becasue Mosgov is a rookie--that means nothing. The guy is the only true legit 5 man at 7-1 270 and I would prefer to go with him if he is really playing well--I would always want to play a big man like that--we could use another one. Randolph can get his minutes as 6th man kind of like Lamar Odom.

10 man line up

7-1 270 Mosgov
6-10 245 Amare
6-10 235 Gallo
6-8 225 Cahndler
6-1 200 felton
6th man 6-11 230 Randolph
7th 6-1 190 Douglas
8 6-10 250 Ron Turriaf
9 6-6 225 B Walker
10 6-5 200 Mason

What makes you think that Ronnie Turiaf isn't earning it in practice?

If you asked me BRIGGS who would you rather play Turriaf or Landry Fields--I would say Fields. When I see RT--I don't see him as a *fit* for this team other than being a leader rah rah--energy guy in FT or special circumstance. He's never been a great player. Now can he do some things--of course but I think that may be better suited for another team. We couldve used a shooter or even picks--maybe a team wants a big like Turriaf. I still think he could easily be replaced by Barron who has skill sets that fit the Knicks more.

You know what, I guess that is a pretty good answer. I guess I saw some vids of Turiaf making good passes out of the post and his defense is pretty good, he says the right stuff and seems to work hard. I guess I think of him like David Lee when playing center- a guy that will be a little faster than the bigger guys, will work for rebounds, but plays better defense. Offensively, I don't think Turiaf will be very much, but I think there is enough offense on this squad.

I like what Mozgov brings. I am just not sure that he is 'ready' yet. If I sign on to your argument, Turiaf makes a good additional trade chip because even if he isn't right for this team, I think he is more valuable than his contract. This team is probably better with Mozgov on the floor if his rebounding is worth anything.

You know I gonna spin wit it
CrushAlot
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10/3/2010  12:35 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I always feel you should play the guy who earned the job. Just becasue Mosgov is a rookie--that means nothing. The guy is the only true legit 5 man at 7-1 270 and I would prefer to go with him if he is really playing well--I would always want to play a big man like that--we could use another one. Randolph can get his minutes as 6th man kind of like Lamar Odom.

10 man line up

7-1 270 Mosgov
6-10 245 Amare
6-10 235 Gallo
6-8 225 Cahndler
6-1 200 felton
6th man 6-11 230 Randolph
7th 6-1 190 Douglas
8 6-10 250 Ron Turriaf
9 6-6 225 B Walker
10 6-5 200 Mason

What makes you think that Ronnie Turiaf isn't earning it in practice?

If you asked me BRIGGS who would you rather play Turriaf or Landry Fields--I would say Fields. When I see RT--I don't see him as a *fit* for this team other than being a leader rah rah--energy guy in FT or special circumstance. He's never been a great player. Now can he do some things--of course but I think that may be better suited for another team. We couldve used a shooter or even picks--maybe a team wants a big like Turriaf. I still think he could easily be replaced by Barron who has skill sets that fit the Knicks more.

My guess is you would have played Hill over Bender last year and you probably would have given Hill some of Jeffries minutes as well. I bet Douglas would have had a few more minutes prior to March as well.

This year Turiaf is the vet. For some reason that means a lot to D'Antoni. Fields and Timofey are rookies. My guess is Fields doesn't get any minutes outside of garbage minutes and Timofey doesn't get much more than Fields. I think you have to remove logic when you look at who is going to play and plug in the character, compliance, maturity, lack of a need for coaching component when you look at who will play for this coach. D'Antoni is very loosey goosey right now but I doubt that the rigidity that caused him to leave Phoenix,choose NY over Chicago, and coach the way he has the past two years is suddenly gone.

I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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