Playa... um, pardon me but whats your point? Are you saying we arent very good? That we shouldnt be excited? I dont get your post.

Personally I'm excited our team is built around a 26 year all star PG and not around a 30 plus PF and SG with bad knees.

I'm excited we have a GM that admits his roster still needs upgrading and doesnt just regurgitate "we like our team" anytime someone asks him about making changes.

I'm excited that every night we have a matchup thats going to favor us. That everynight late in games *WE* finally have a guy other teams are scared of.

I'm excited our GM and coach have been NBA champs and know what it takes to win a title, and the kind of players that are needed to do that, and the drive to go out and get those players.

If none of these things excite you there's a 14 year old girl that plays golf really good... maybe you should follow her instead of the Knicks.

16 yr old virgins were?????

Great post, Vector. You deconstructed the Knicks and Playa in one fell swoop.

The follow-up was solid too, GoNY!

We really should just concentrate on how the Knicks are winning and let the haters and provocateurs run their mouths on their own. The veteran postas know what's what, and the noobs will follow our lead.

Another thing we can focus on is what the Knicks' next move will be. KVH is about to be traded. I am interested in speculating on who we'll get back for him.

From here on in, let's get the discussions going in a positive direction. There has been SO much happening over the last month that would make any real Knicks fan feel that there's reason to hope again. Anyone not intelligent enough to realize that needs not to be heard or acknowledged to begin with.

The Knicks are back in a big way. As far as I am concerned, anyone hating what's going on now is really just starving for attention. My Knicks are FINALLY in a good situation. I wanted LayDown and Chaney GONE for a long time (as my posts during that time proved on a consistent basis). Those who nitpick now are for the most part the same ones who backed LayDown & Chaney, who are now perpetually eating their words and can only validate tthemselves by playing the part of antagonist versus all of those who are happy now. IMO, they ate their words, and are still choking on them; all I hear outta them now are the sounds of a gagging, twitching victim of asphyxiation.

Now is the time to get behind our team and ROOT HARD!!! After a long time, we have a real reason to hope again.

[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 01/20/2004 15:05:15]

Posted by martin:

Posted by playa2:

Posted by bigblitz2001:

playa,,

I dont need to post to read. I was hanging around here way before the first 4 game winning streak. This streak is much different IMO.

Also your sig. says Frank is getting the shaft because of "Ticket Sales" then your post says hes getting the shaft playing behind Moochie Norris. DO you really think Moochie sells that many tickets? hmmmmm.. I know everytime I'm in the Garden people say the only reason they bought there tickets were to see Moochie play his 7 min. a game. Worth the price of admission everytime. Come on man be consistant and change that sig.

Are you that slow? Frank is the middle child now(forgotten), once he was touted as being the next "clyde frazier" in starting lineup(not flashy like starbury) and now he's behind Norris. Marbury signing was the answer to a few things Ticket sales,he alsohas superior point guard skillz(+ been in the league longer than Frank.) Frank gets that shaft because of this being a business.... get a clue!

seriously, is this FWill's Mom?

I have never seen a Knicks fan argue so vehemently about a trade that is so much in the Knicks' favor.

FWill and the team were groovin' for a 4 game stretch, but Houston and KVh as your #1 & #2 option is not going to get you that far. Maybe the 7th or 8th seed in the East. Maybe. And _maybe_ Frank grows into the position in a year to 2, but there is only about a 1% chance that he will be anything near what Marb current is.

Another thing: 4 games does not make a career or even a season. Nor does it garuantee playing time, see R Murray of the Sonics.

hey martin, four games sure might not make a career but it sure should get frank or any young talent for that matter, a shot like flip got or gemaine got, or eric snow got(he's made quite a living), the list goes on.
i am just waiting for a frank trade and i really hope he gets a better chance to show what he has with another team.

Posted by Bobby:

i really hope he gets a better chance to show what he has with another team.

I could care less what Frank has to show with any team other than the Knicks: that will just generate "I told you so" and "Knicks dont trade well" mentality.

i'm sure there are others that share my sentiment about frank and have some what become fans of his. as a frank williams fan, i would like him to do well no matter where he goes, just like i wanted camby to do well. the "i told you so" just goes along with being a fan and having an opinion.
btw, how do you get the individual quote?

F Will should play over Norris everytime

come on Lenny

and give shandon some usefull minutes

Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

Don't worry about those two- they'll get PT on the teams we trade them to.

My gut says Frank is gone... but who knows. As for Shandon he's been replaced by Penny, and lets face it thats an upgrade. Shandon is stronger, but Penny is longer, and a much more versatile and rounded player.

playa I didn't even finish reading your garbage, you should not talk, after the knicks won 4 in a row against the bottom feeders of the league, orlando, chicago and miami, and some other scrub team, you were in here flapping your gums about how great the knicks are and how great this team was, don't make me go pull that thread, I will own you if I do... anyway this team this current team which has more talent at least beat teams with .500 records or close to... Stop being foolish, you were the one acting like the 16 year old virgin who just got his first tounge kiss...

chump!!!

Posted by tkf:

"...Anderson should only touch the ball after he he fed 5 feet from the hoop for a layup, other than that Anderson is a trainwreck mixed with a plane crash, followed by a earthquake that hits a statium filled with sixty thousand fans.... He is just painful to watch..."

LMAO!