AnubisADL wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:randolph is, what, 6'11"? beasely is like 6'8" and has had numerous drug issues. randolph is also a way better athlete.

The draft combine says different.

he's grown over an inch since the draft.

beasley is a drug user with no drive to improve. meh. AR is the prospect i'd rather have. he's dominated at the NBA level, albeit for short stretches. beasley has been consistently mediocre.

The incentive to improve is his contract after his rookie deal. Beasley hasn't been mediocre. Averaging 15 and 6 is mediocre?

How about this: Beasley was traded for a second round pick and perhaps a first round swap later on... and all the team had to do was absorb his salary. That's how low teams (including Miami) opinion of him were during July.

martin wrote:

Juice wrote:Had we acquired Beasley we would be searching high and low for ways to defend him. He plays for Sota, so there's no need to be overly interested in him as a player. Randolph was traded for, the staff likes him... as some did during the 2008 draft. As a fan base there is a desire to stick up for this mental kid and church up anything that's possibly good.

When Tim Thomas dunked on him while punking him, I recall so many fans laughing at the kid counting their blessings and saying their graces over us passing him up in the draft.

I've always maintained he's one heck of a talent(but mental)

Beasley also is one heck of a talent(but a little socially unstable)

Both of them brought some bad press upon themselves while their organizations appeared to be working against them to assure they stayed down kicking them.

Here another things to consider: one of those 2 guys played for a team with a superstar and a HOF coach/GM both of whom are no-nonsense type dudes who are focused on winning. And the other player had a coach who is a nutjob at this point in his career.

Riley is a hypocritical disciplinarian and Wade is a low pain tolerance Actor. Neither would have earned my respect while there. Riley never wanted to draft Beasley and shouldn't have if that's how he was going to treat him.

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:randolph is, what, 6'11"? beasely is like 6'8" and has had numerous drug issues. randolph is also a way better athlete.

The draft combine says different.

he's grown over an inch since the draft.

beasley is a drug user with no drive to improve. meh. AR is the prospect i'd rather have. he's dominated at the NBA level, albeit for short stretches. beasley has been consistently mediocre.

The incentive to improve is his contract after his rookie deal. Beasley hasn't been mediocre. Averaging 15 and 6 is mediocre?

How about this: Beasley was traded for a second round pick and perhaps a first round swap later on... and all the team had to do was absorb his salary. That's how low teams (including Miami) opinion of him were during July.

Beasley was traded to make room for Bosh and Lebron. In retrospect do you seriously believe Walsh wouldn't have taken Beasley if he knew he wasn't getting Lebron? Do you think Miami trades Beasley if they knew Wade was going to split. Lets not be naive. Miami knew they were getting Wade, Lebron, and Bosh when they traded Beasley.

You missed the point. No team was offering more than a second round pick for Beasley. That's how much his value was around the league (with salary absorbsion a necessity obviously).

Jonah Ballow: What specific parts of your game are you focused on this year?

Michael Beasley: Being a leader. I work on every aspect of my game everyday and night. But, I think I need to be more of a leader, you know we are such a young team. We don't really have a true veteran, 10-year-plus guy. Just being a leader, making sure everybody stays tight, being the energy guy, being the voice of the team, just make sure everybody works hard, stays tight, and has fun at the same time.

Jonah Ballow: You will be in Makato for the first time, how important is that to get some cohesion with this team? You get to stay with these guys for a week in Mankato, so you will get to build some relationships.

Michael Beasley: It's definitely important; we spend more time with each other than we do with our own families during the season. So, it's definitely good to get that chemistry to see how we live early on, we know what to be prepared for.

Jonah Ballow: We talked a little bit about the Miami Heat last time. I know you are putting them in your rearview mirror but what do you think about what they did with LeBron, Wade, Bosh, and putting those stars together?

Michael Beasley: I think that speaks to Pat Riley, you know exactly who he is. Pat Riley is a winner, winner, winner, that's pretty much all it is. They got three of the best guys in the NBA, they got the best role players in the NBA, you know they are trying to win championships and that's what Pat Riley is all about. It is unfortunate they had to get rid of me but like I said, Pat Riley wins at any cost and that's exactly what he did.

Jonah Ballow: Are they the team to beat? I mean, there is a team in LA with a couple of trophies but are they the team to beat?

Michael Beasley: Honestly, and I know a lot of people are not going to like that fact that I'm going to say this but I think we are the team to beat. You know, that's just me and my ego speaking. I think the Lakers are the defending champs two years in a row, I think the Lakers still hold that title. It's nice to see somebody try to fight back but as of now, the Lakers are still the team to beat.

Source: http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news/BEasy_Prepares_For_Camp_2010_09_15.html

Video of Interview:

Recent interview. It's all hot air until he shows it on the court but we already know this guy can light it up(Pun Intended).

Beasely also seems to be more confident in himself.

A better question would have been what's the difference between A. Randolph & Lopez, or McGee.
Most of the players I mentioned above will be SOLID for the next ten years.

Beasley will be a decent player, but a bust for the #2 pick in the draft.
Ask yourself this question... Would the Heat have traded Anthony Randolph for a 2nd rounder?
HELL NO!!! they would have not settled for anything less than a lottery pick in my opinion. And they would have gotten one too.

nyvector16 wrote:If you look back at the 2008 Draft... Beasley should have been drafted in the mid-teens.
In my opinion all these players from that draft are better:
Mayo, Westbrook, Love, Gallinari, Gordon, Augustin, Lopez, Bayless,Anthony Randolph, Hibbert, McGee, Hicksen, and perhaps even Chalmers (Since Heat decided to keep him over Beasley)

A better question would have been what's the difference between A. Randolph & Lopez, or McGee.
Most of the players I mentioned above will be SOLID for the next ten years.

Beasley will be a decent player, but a bust for the #2 pick in the draft.
Ask yourself this question... Would the Heat have traded Anthony Randolph for a 2nd rounder?
HELL NO!!! they would have not settled for anything less than a lottery pick in my opinion. And they would have gotten one too.

You serious? 90% of the players you posted have done diddly in the NBA.

LOL at Pat Riley not trading Anthony Randolph instead of signing Lebron and Bosh.

crzymdups wrote:i thought you were all about TS%. Beasely's TS was a mediocre .505 last year. he regressed from his rookie season. his PER went down, too. as did his rebounding percentage. I'm not a huuuge proponent of TS%, but when all you offer on the basketball floor is scoring, i think it's worth looking at.

he's mediocre. and has character issues, glowing reports from college coaches notwithstanding. maybe there was a reason he went to a small school like that instead of one of the big boys.

Im not all about TS%. Beasley is FAR from mediocre. The guy had a weed issue. No one says a thing about Beasley's character so why make stuff up?

nyvector16 wrote:Well I can pretty much guarantee that Anthony Randolph will have a way better year this year on the Knicks that anything Beasley does for Kahn's squad.
Just to add to that... It would not be a stretch to say that we have the better player and he will have a better career than Mr. Sensitive (Beasley).

You guarantee? Im pretty sure Beasley will put up gaudy stats this year. The question is will those stats lead to wins or losses. By the way Beasley's offense game is LIGHT YEARS ahead Randolph's.

The beauty of all this is the pre-season is only 2 weeks away. Im hyped.

Lot's of guys excel on the collegiate level and then aren't as impressive in the pros. AR's varied talents translate a bit better IMO. He can help a team on both ends.