PF: Amare 25, Randolph 23

SF: Gallo 35, Chandler 13

Pre Azuibuike SG: Chandler 20, Walker or Mason 20 (up for grabs), Douglas 8

PG: Felton 35, Douglas 13

purple012870 wrote:Center: Turiaf 20, Moz 20, Amare 8

PF: Amare 25, Randolph 23

SF: Gallo 35, Chandler 13

Pre Azuibuike SG: Chandler 20, Walker or Mason 20 (up for grabs), Douglas 8

PG: Felton 35, Douglas 13

I would see him starting Felton, Chandler, Gallo, Amare and Mosgov and bringing TD and AR off the bench. Everyone plays about 30-35 minutes.

tj23 wrote:I guess to start the season it will probably be

Turiaf
Amare
Gallo
Chandler(maybe Mason)
Felton

But I can see Amare getting plenty of minutes at center while we put AR or even Will at the 4.

My ideal lineup when healthy would be

Amare
AR
Gallo
Buke
Felton
6-Will - could picture him having a breakout type year but Buke is a true SG and it's hard to not have Gallo 's shooting out there. I would play him at the 4 but I wouldn't want to play small all the time.
Turiaf
Douglas
Walker

I prefer a 9 man rotation. I'd give Mason some ocaasional pt. Not sold on rookies but maybe mosgov would get a couple minutes just so our bigs dont get overworked.

Starters

Amare
AR
Gallo
Buke
Felton

I would take out AR early

Amare
Will
Gallo
Buke
Felton

Gallo next

Turiaf
Amare
Will
Buke
Felton

Then

Turiaf
AR
Walker
Mason - very short stint
Touglas

Then back to starters.

the Most Interesting Man will be in there some place.

I still think there will be another move for a backup point guard before the season starts.

Teams will have to put a LOT of attention on Amare which will leave Gallo Chandler and Randolph to be opportunistic in setting up their offensive positions + offensive rebounding(could be huge for us)

fishmike wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:Walker's going to play a lot. Douglas is almost worthless if Az is healthy.

I still think there will be another move for a backup point guard before the season starts.

whats almost worthless about a guard that defends like Douglas, shoots, scores and takes care of the ball?

Walker couldnt buy a shot in the summer league. He's a nice hustle guy but he's Shandon Anderson part II. Good to have on your roster so long as your not paying him $7mm

MDA was very impressed with Douglas end of last year.

End of the year when Douglas started he played great defense, scored 14ppg, 4apg, 4rebs, 1.3stls shot 48% and shot 42% from downtown.

Tell me again why after Douglas showed that kind of improvement his first year in the NBA and we know he's been working out @ the Knicks facility all off season why he's useless, wouldnt get burn or the KNicks would look for another backup PG.

Please explain your thinking

Douglas is a very small shooting guard. The only reason anyone thinks he's a point guard is because of his size. He has zero passing skills and that was on full display in the Summer League. You or I wouldn't turn the ball over either if we never passed it.

This isn't the same team anymore. He'll be sharing the floor with other high-level scorers. He won't be able to pull the one-man-show act anymore.

If he can't actually facilitate, then he's going to be or should be tied to the bench and we need another PG who can handle 10-15 min a game.

JohnWallace44 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:Walker's going to play a lot. Douglas is almost worthless if Az is healthy.

I still think there will be another move for a backup point guard before the season starts.

whats almost worthless about a guard that defends like Douglas, shoots, scores and takes care of the ball?

Walker couldnt buy a shot in the summer league. He's a nice hustle guy but he's Shandon Anderson part II. Good to have on your roster so long as your not paying him $7mm

MDA was very impressed with Douglas end of last year.

End of the year when Douglas started he played great defense, scored 14ppg, 4apg, 4rebs, 1.3stls shot 48% and shot 42% from downtown.

Tell me again why after Douglas showed that kind of improvement his first year in the NBA and we know he's been working out @ the Knicks facility all off season why he's useless, wouldnt get burn or the KNicks would look for another backup PG.

Please explain your thinking

Douglas is a very small shooting guard. The only reason anyone thinks he's a point guard is because of his size. He has zero passing skills and that was on full display in the Summer League. You or I wouldn't turn the ball over either if we never passed it.

This isn't the same team anymore. He'll be sharing the floor with other high-level scorers. He won't be able to pull the one-man-show act anymore.

If he can't actually facilitate, then he's going to be or should be tied to the bench and we need another PG who can handle 10-15 min a game.

I seem to recall the same things being said about Chancey early in his career.

No doubt Douglas is going to take a bit of time to adjust to the role of PG.

purple012870 wrote:Douglas is an athletic combo guard that will play the role of Leandro Barbosa (plus better d) this year. The kid is a warrior who competes like few Knicks in the last 10 years. Sign me up for > 15 minutes a night for him.

Like Barbosa I think Douglas plays 25-30 minutes a game. 12-15 as Felton's backup and another 12-15 either as SG or in 3 guard sets. When Douglas was playing great at the end of the year you really didnt see anything that blew you away, he just did what he in college. Played great D, good shot selection, good shooting range, play the 2 man game...

I have no issue with letting Douglas guard bigger players either. He's not some shrimpy guy. Dude's tough as nails.

JohnWallace44 wrote:

martin wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:Walker's going to play a lot. Douglas is almost worthless if Az is healthy.

I still think there will be another move for a backup point guard before the season starts.

whats almost worthless about a guard that defends like Douglas, shoots, scores and takes care of the ball?

Walker couldnt buy a shot in the summer league. He's a nice hustle guy but he's Shandon Anderson part II. Good to have on your roster so long as your not paying him $7mm

MDA was very impressed with Douglas end of last year.

End of the year when Douglas started he played great defense, scored 14ppg, 4apg, 4rebs, 1.3stls shot 48% and shot 42% from downtown.

Tell me again why after Douglas showed that kind of improvement his first year in the NBA and we know he's been working out @ the Knicks facility all off season why he's useless, wouldnt get burn or the KNicks would look for another backup PG.

Please explain your thinking

Douglas is a very small shooting guard. The only reason anyone thinks he's a point guard is because of his size. He has zero passing skills and that was on full display in the Summer League. You or I wouldn't turn the ball over either if we never passed it.

This isn't the same team anymore. He'll be sharing the floor with other high-level scorers. He won't be able to pull the one-man-show act anymore.

If he can't actually facilitate, then he's going to be or should be tied to the bench and we need another PG who can handle 10-15 min a game.

I seem to recall the same things being said about Chancey early in his career.

No doubt Douglas is going to take a bit of time to adjust to the role of PG.

Every PG who doesn't come out of the gates rocking the league cites Chauncey Billups as the reason they'll be great someday.

I'm going to try to cite Chauncey in my next job interview. "I haven't been great so far, but remember Chauncey Billups."

You dont think Douglas can be a good backup? You dont think he could be a Barbosa type of player? Who were Nash's backups?

I dont need or expect Douglas to be the next Billups. Nobody here does. The only point was that guy who was primarily a scorer turned out to be an elite NBA point guard after bouncing around for 3-4 years and 3-4 teams. Plus we know Douglas is a gym rat and has a psycho work ethic.

I get what you mean with Barbosa, but they never really liked him in that system either. If you watch TD, he's just not a natural ball distributor. He doesn't do it well at all and I don't know if you can really teach someone (other than Chauncey) how to have court vision.