franco12 wrote:Did sudden, group wide amnesia take hold here?

Look, Crawford doesn't deserve any of the blame for the losing he's experienced in his pro career.

But the fact remains he doesn't fit in with Mike's offensive style. He does fit in great with Atlanta.

Yes, he does some great things, but he simply doesn't fit. Wrong puzzle piece.

Now, when Mike gets fired at the end of this season, maybe we can look at bringing him in....

I agree with him not deserving the blame. The guy was thrust into a starters role when he was supposed to be backing up HOUSTON. Is it his fault he was made the number 1option and asked to do more than he was capable of. He proved that he can be a valuable piece on a good team where HE IS NOT asked or expected to carry them.

Also, he looked good in D'Antoni's system before the trade and would be our best guard off the bench.

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JohnWallace44 wrote:

fishmike wrote:your much much better with Toney Douglas, who is 50x the defensive player than Crawford, and will be just as good a scorer.

Come on. Just as good a scorer as the 6th man of the year. I love when a dude who has a handful of decent games for us is just as good as someone who has proven it night in and night out.

What has Douglas shown? That he can do in the NBA what he didnt college. Score, defend and take care of the ball. Sure... Crawford is good at 2 of those things, and he would deserve to be labeled the better scorer right now, but thats temporary. One thing I do know is Crawford will NEVER be the defender that Douglas is right now.

So yes.. I would take Douglas over Crawford right now. Crawford won 6th man because he's not good enough to start on what was already a playoff team when he got there.

If Crawford had any kind of presense on defense he would be a starter. I will pass on guys that shoot 40% and dont defend.

fishmike wrote:

franco12 wrote:Did sudden, group wide amnesia take hold here?

Look, Crawford doesn't deserve any of the blame for the losing he's experienced in his pro career.

But the fact remains he doesn't fit in with Mike's offensive style. He does fit in great with Atlanta.

Yes, he does some great things, but he simply doesn't fit. Wrong puzzle piece.

Now, when Mike gets fired at the end of this season, maybe we can look at bringing him in....

why would he get fired?

when this newly revamped squad wins 37 games and Dolan is unhappy.

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm afraid that this is a team that needs some work, and we have a coach that really hasn't shown enthusiasm for working to develop younger players. His comment about 'Good Rookies' is just so frivolous as to call him into question.

franco12 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:

fishmike wrote:your much much better with Toney Douglas, who is 50x the defensive player than Crawford, and will be just as good a scorer.

Come on. Just as good a scorer as the 6th man of the year. I love when a dude who has a handful of decent games for us is just as good as someone who has proven it night in and night out.

what has he proven night in and night out? That he can shoot 40%? That he can make some good passes? Dudes been in the league like 10 years and has been more part of the problem on all those terrible teams than the solution. He's a great guy but not a good basketball player. He doesnt defend, doesnt rebound and shoots a low %. He can play some backup PG. WOW...

What has Douglas shown? That he can do in the NBA what he didnt college. Score, defend and take care of the ball. Sure... Crawford is good at 2 of those things, and he would deserve to be labeled the better scorer right now, but thats temporary. One thing I do know is Crawford will NEVER be the defender that Douglas is right now.

So yes.. I would take Douglas over Crawford right now. Crawford won 6th man because he's not good enough to start on what was already a playoff team when he got there.

If Crawford had any kind of presense on defense he would be a starter. I will pass on guys that shoot 40% and dont defend.

The problem with Crawford is not that he shoots 40%, its how he gets there- completely off several games, and then unconscious for 1. Great off the bench.

Douglas is just a solid, Charlie Ward type player, and I'd take that for this unit at the present time over what Crawford could do/add.

Look, Im not saying Douglas is going to be a star, but based on what he brings I would take him over Crawford. Its too hard to win games when opposing guards walk into the paint and create easy shots at will. Having Douglas and Felton (two top flight defenders) on the wing will add way more wins than having a bench player who will score 35 points once a month