fishmike wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:This was my argument--the COST!! The nets can give away 3 #1 picks like it was yesterdays news because they have 9 of them--so the cost to them is not as overwhelming as it would be to us--since we have no picks--it would cost us current assets--and once give up all that it would take--our team is Fd. For those who thought it was going top cost Chandler Gallo 2014--think again---throw in randolph Fields and GS picks + our 2014--that is a similar deal to 3 #1's favors and harris./

We have Amare eating up massive cap. So in order to capitalize on Amare's few remaining good years we need to bring him help NOW. Carmelo + Amare makes us a very good team in the East.

Knicks would be 4th best team in the East at the very best. Then your left with low draft picks and the MLE to improve your team and your stuck at 48-50 wins and getting bounced in round 2 every year. Wow... sign me up.

Gallo and AR are still in their rookie contracts next year. Felton is still cheap at $7mm if he blows up in the MDA system. Douglas is in his rookie deal. Your looking at max cap space next year if you let Chandler walk and build around a core of Felton/Douglas/AR/Gallo/Amare/Fields/Rautins/Mosgov. THATS how you build a title team. That core should be a playoff team next year. You have a chance to keep together your young players with all star potential and add another max/star guy, or use the cap space to trade for one.

All trading for Melo does is marry you to being a middle seeded playoff team for the next 5 years. Sorry, that doesnt excite me

+1

Bringing in Melo would be great if there were some other avenue available to improve the team..

but if you trade away one or 2 or even 3 young players with potential and we don't really have draft picks..how do you aim to win a championship against Miami down south, Orlando, Boston once all their aging stars come off the books, Oklahoma City, etc?

If we had draft picks and a bunch of young guys on rookie contracts to add to Amare and Melo that's a potentially championship worthy team..Amare + Melo on a capped out team with no draft picks..doesn't sound like quit like a no brainer..

fish...would you be in favor of signing Melo as a FA if he refuses to sign an extension with Denver or any crappy team Denver wants to trade him to and just plays the season out?

ATrain wrote:I think this isn't toooo much better than what we have to offer. But maybe I'm biased, because I really don't see too much potential in Favors.

It may not be better at all, but the fact that it is such a competitive offer, it will only raise the price to NY..

So we take it as it is, then argue it?

Ok, But Melo then gets his extension and walks into a rebuild.

Net offer is fair, and if so then Im with Briggs that we sit it out.

If Mello can wait and money is not the primary need then he needs to "mellow" out and wait until a free agent and bank on the CBA to no phuch him. He then can come to compete.

We keep our utes for two reasons. They are needed and TRADE BAIT IF ANOTHER PLAYER SHAKES LOOSE and strikes his independance. Mello going to rebuild or us cleaning house for him makes us vulnerable.

VDesai wrote:Thats a good offer, but if I'm Melo I'm not at all excited about going to NJ without Harris or Favors there.

If you're Melo are you excited about coming to NY and playing with Amare and a gutted out team?

Wouldn't you be much more excited about coming to the Knicks say next season when they have a (hopefully) advanced Randolph, Gallo as either running mates or trade bait to go get some help? (since we're not getting it via the draft unless we get lucky and land a Manu Ginobili type pick)

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

VDesai wrote:Thats a good offer, but if I'm Melo I'm not at all excited about going to NJ without Harris or Favors there.

If you're Melo are you excited about coming to NY and playing with Amare and a gutted out team?

Wouldn't you be much more excited about coming to the Knicks say next season when they have a (hopefully) advanced Randolph, Gallo as either running mates or trade bait to go get some help? (since we're not getting it via the draft unless we get lucky and land a Manu Ginobili type pick)

Depends on if the Knicks could keep one of Gallo or Randolph now, which may not be possible.

VDesai wrote:Thats a good offer, but if I'm Melo I'm not at all excited about going to NJ without Harris or Favors there.

CrushAlot wrote:

VDesai wrote:Thats a good offer, but if I'm Melo I'm not at all excited about going to NJ without Harris or Favors there.

If I am the Nuggets I take that offer. It is a great offer and there seems to be some motivation to also take the power of choosing where Melo goes away from his agents.

But if he says no to an extension with the Nets do the Nets pull that offer?

VDesai wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

VDesai wrote:Thats a good offer, but if I'm Melo I'm not at all excited about going to NJ without Harris or Favors there.

If I am the Nuggets I take that offer. It is a great offer and there seems to be some motivation to also take the power of choosing where Melo goes away from his agents.

But if he says no to an extension with the Nets do the Nets pull that offer?

I think that's a given. Why trade anything for a 1 year rental unless you're a team that's 1 player away from a championship.

Ex: Orlando trades for Melo without an extension and gambles that he likes playing with Dwight Howard and winning enough to sign an extension..??

Also in response to your response about not being able to keep both Gallo and Randolph....that is why I am praying we SIGN Melo vs trading for him

VDesai wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

VDesai wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

VDesai wrote:Thats a good offer, but if I'm Melo I'm not at all excited about going to NJ without Harris or Favors there.

If I am the Nuggets I take that offer. It is a great offer and there seems to be some motivation to also take the power of choosing where Melo goes away from his agents.

But if he says no to an extension with the Nets do the Nets pull that offer?

I think that's a given. Why trade anything for a 1 year rental unless you're a team that's 1 player away from a championship.

Ex: Orlando trades for Melo without an extension and gambles that he likes playing with Dwight Howard and winning enough to sign an extension..??

Also in response to your response about not being able to keep both Gallo and Randolph....that is why I am praying we SIGN Melo vs trading for him

But maybe they take the risk thinking that if they can't sign him they move him at the deadline?

Interesting point but I see this more for Orlando that NJ as GSTK mentioned.

AnubisADL wrote:Some fail to consider that the Nets will have max space this summer. A core of Lopez, Horford, and Carmelo wouldnt be that bad. It depends on how Terrence Williams pans out.

some fail to add up salaries before making such a bold statement. Show us the math.

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Some fail to consider that the Nets will have max space this summer. A core of Lopez, Horford, and Carmelo wouldnt be that bad. It depends on how Terrence Williams pans out.

some fail to add up salaries before making such a bold statement. Show us the math.

Also..if you pay Lopez/Horford/Melo..ur window is whenever Favors comes off his rookie contract and needs to get paid too

Favors would be going to Denver in that proposed trade.

And they'd have nary a playmaker on that entire squad.