Moonangie wrote:

rvwink wrote:"This is a no brainer you get Melo here ASAP."

There is no "no brainer" situation where you go after the all star without calculating everything. It is essential to try and figure out how Melo fits into D'Antoni's style of play and whether or not Melo would even accept playing for the Nets, instead of the Knicks.

I believe the Knicks start its 3 front court talents and try to figure out as quickly as possible what they have. I also think Melo wants to play with Amare, and therefore he will wait a reasonable period of time before pulling the trigger and settling somewhere else. Meanwhile, the Knicks need to find out how well Gallinari and Randolph fit with Amare and Felton. Blinding cashing in your young talent for Melo simply because he is a superstar, would in my opinion be a no brainer" of a different type.

Word, as in "having no brain". If they trade Gallo + AR + Curry + pick(s) for Melo, they should have their heads examined. He will be a FA after this season. Let's not wear our Isaiah hats just yet...

yeah, but what other team can sign melo next year if he decides to skip out on us? no feasible team. plus if we trade for him it most likely will be with an extension. the trade of gallo, ar and curry with picks should be the LAST resort and i think walsh will hold off on it but if there is not choice i wouldnt be opposed.

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:

Vmart wrote:Only in NY will someone debate getting a star player. You get Melo and then let the chips land where they may. This is a no brainer you get Melo here ASAP. Object is to get the fairest possible deal. Who the hell like to give up young talent but sometimes you have to do it to get the all elusive Championship. Boston didn't hesitate to trade their young talent to get Allen and KG result a championship and a trip to the finals. Same with Miami they dropped Odoms and Butler to get a shot at Shaq on his last leg. Result trip to ECF and a Championship. You get Melo here and I'm willing to part with AR and Gallo for him if push came to shove. I understand a lot of you want to wait until he is a FA but if Denver trades him signed sealed and delivered to a team other than NYK you guys are going to kick yourself for passing up on an opportunity to get a high profile star that is going into his prime.

no they won't... they'll say Melo's overrated & start talking about how we absolutely must make a move to acquire Jerryd Bayless this summer because he's a "future top 5 player in the NBA"... it's ridiculous.

that's about the dumbest thing ever. Speak for yourself amigo.

nah... the dumbest thing ever is for the past year & a half to be willing to throw away draft picks & assets to clear $7M in cap space for a superstar player u don't even know you can get... but oh yeah, you were all on board for that plan right martin?

yes I was. Because you had a 1-time shot at the likes of Amare, Wade, Bosh, LeBron, Joe Johnson and perhaps 2 of them. And it's the LeBron and Wade parts that made the last bits of the Jefferies trade understandable, so much so that Riley went all in and didn't have the hurdle of Curry's contract to get rid of or we would be talking big 3 in NY instead of Miami.

But now the circumstances are different and for that I am guessing you will see Donnie play this out a bit differently. He has a horse in Amare, 2 young bigs with big upside and major league cap space with Melo, CP3 and Williams hitting the market in 1-2 years (if not tradable at cents on the dollar). We are not talking waiting 3-4 years like you posted below, we are talking maybe 1 to 2 years at worst if nothing happens.

I'm for not laying down $20+M on Melo for 3 years and be locked into a player who doesn't make other around him much better and who doesn't play both ends of the court, that's not worth giving up the farm for (Wade and Lebron... yes). And if you do give up AR and Gallo and 2014 and maybe Chandler, you have zero maneuverability after that. None, and Amare and Melo don't get past Miami and maybe Orlando.

It's strange, but a combined AR and Gallo have displayed a better 2-way potential than Melo has demonstrated. And they are both bigger than he is.

I'd like to see it played out more. And the biggest reason I don't do the trade is cause I am greedy. I want AR, Gallo and Melo signed next summer as an UFA. And then we can talk about using assets to trade for CP3 or Williams and compete for a championship.

knicks1248 wrote:There will be some serious growing pains with this young squad (even MDA knows this)...Every time he's ask the question about the roster, the first thing he points to is the youth, it's tough to win with young guys who know nothing but losing

Gallo and chandler are losers until proven other wise, Melo has been winning since he came in the league, and prior to that. Chandler and gallo have the no clue on what it takes to win games, thats clearly obvious.

I wish people would stop looking at these two as if we came within a couple of games from making the playoffs.
Yes they have talent, but we all know your not winning consistantly with just a couple of shooters, and dunkers.

Melo is def better than either Chandler or Gallo and has def won more games. But he has also had better teammates and a much better situation. So who cares about he winning comparison you set up.

knicks1248 wrote:whats really getting to me is that, the fans seem more optimistic about this roster then the coach...that ain't good..

could be just coach speak... could be he is really trying to temper expectations as well.

sidsanders wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:whats really getting to me is that, the fans seem more optimistic about this roster then the coach...that ain't good..

could be just coach speak... could be he is really trying to temper expectations as well.

Well he said the same thing the last 2 seasons...thats the scary part. There's no question the roster has been upgraded, but when i listen to to MDA, you would swear were rolling into the season with same exact roster. MDA, as we all know, doesn't do well with youth, and low IQ players, maybe thats why he isn't that impress, or as excited as the fans.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/kat-stacks-files-police-report-against-carmelo-anthony.php?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

"By John Krolik
Earlier this week, Nuggets (for the time being) small forward Carmelo Anthony found himself involved in a bizarre controversy involving twitter, Anthony's wife La La Vasquez, and Kat Stacks, who is apparently an internet groupie of some description.

Essentially, Anthony tweeted that he would give $20,000 dollars to anyone who would "slap the (expletive) out of Stacks," right as Vasquez was tweeting about her disdain for Stacks and saying that her husband was on "a twitter roll." (Here's a helpful recap of the events, courtesy of SB Nation's Andrew Sharp.)

Carmelo is now claiming that his twitter account was hacked, but Stacks is apparently not buying it, as she tweeted that she filed a police report on Anthony a few hours ago. We'll keep you updated if this turns into a significant issue for Anthony. "

rp wrote:This topic is no win. We always have pro carmelo and anti carmelo. But I guess that is why we have something to talk about but it is just funny. I will leave the rumors stay where they are and enjoy the ride :)

fishmike wrote:

rp wrote:This topic is no win. We always have pro carmelo and anti carmelo. But I guess that is why we have something to talk about but it is just funny. I will leave the rumors stay where they are and enjoy the ride :)

I think of myself as pro carmello and anti carmello trade.

two different subject :). I believe the discussion is about your 2nd part :).