CrushAlot wrote:I think what is being ignored is that Barron is really the only legitimate big man D'Antoni played last year. He does not generally play a traditional center and he doesn't play rookies. With the roster the Knicks have put together they could benefit from a functional big man that the coach will play. I don't think D'Antoni is playing Timofey or giving him minutes to develop his game. Last year D'Antoni stuck with just giving vets minutes way past the time that the Knicks had any realistic chance of making the playoffs. With a competitive roster, I think the GM needs to recognize who his coach is and sign a big that he will play that will contribute. Barron is available and fills that need.

Barron is clearly a more ready option and I hope that he comes to his senses, but if he doesn't that just opens up things for Timo to get a shot.

Nalod wrote:

Haha. Six dudes in there.

TymeLessKnicks wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:Who the **** is Earl Barron and what has he proven? Jack ****, that's what.

haha, so true. no disrespect to earl but...29 other teams in the nba, he's still unsigned. played great in 10 games but that proves just how much this system can benefit players.

this is a pretty weak argument. several players have come into teams not using this "system" and have performed well for stretches.

did isiah's "system" prove to be the reason that mardy collins had that great stretch of games a few years ago, late in the season?

BRIGGS wrote:I'm concerned we snuffed it with Mosgov--giving him 3mm big one's+. He might pan out over the longer term but the guy I saw today is not ready for an NBA rotation yet. The guy is a foul ready to happen.
Why did we pay this guy and not Barron who is obviously much more skilled?

Marv wrote:white guys can't count.

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Paladin55 wrote:

Andrew wrote:One of 2 reasons Earl is not signed right now (by the Knicks or another team). He isn't that good, or more likely is asking for too much, maybe a multi year guaranteed deal. If all it is taking is a 1M offer for one year I find it hard to believe that another team (Miami) has not signed him.

Yup.

In my opinion he showed enough last year to intrigue teams, and possibly warrant the kind of contract that a #2 pick might get, and I have been stunned that his name has never come up at all, but you have to think that he and his agent have overestimated his value.

I think that is exactly the issue. Walsh was willing to sign him to a minimum deal, but he wanted more money. I think he is waiting for a multi-year offer, and it has not come so far.

MS wrote:Etan Thomas would have been a nice pickup as well.

I even thought Kurt Thomas was a smarter signing than Mosgov. You can never have too many veterans that work hard with playoff experience.

Love Kurt but the dude is gonna be 38 in a few weeks. As much as you need vets you also need youth with upside. Perhaps if Kurt were 6'11" and could hold down the middle spot for 10-15 minutes, but really he is almost done.

MS wrote:I agree, but all we need is 10-15 minutes a night.

Turiaf, AR, Amare are going to get lionshare of the minutes and a guy that can hit the open jumper and play a little post d is always a good idea. I don't like a three year commitment to a guy that hasn't played NBA ball.

No reason they couldn't have just stepped up and grabbed a kid like whiteside if they spent the money on Mosgov.

Knicks made a 1 year commitment to Mosgov. And Whiteside, while a decent shotblocker at the college level, is always lost on offense.

Lets wait and see what we got with the Russian.