Knick fan here--I would never do this deal but it s funny to read how much people dont know about basketball

How many other wing guards in the nBA @ 22 years old shot 48% while putting up 15.3 5.5-2.1 with good defense?

His best overall game last year when he put up 24 points 17 rebounds and added 4 assists--+ had a 35 point game as well

That is like me saying I would not give up Toney Douglas for Batum

smackeddog wrote:

fishmike wrote:
MDA loves Chandler. He's the last place this would come from.

Yeah, i get the impression D'Antoni likes Chandler as a player- he's hard working, never sulks, never complains. If we'd ended up with Rudy there was a big risk that he could so easily have become this years Darko- the similarities in their attitude are worrying, and D'Antoni has all shown how he deals with players who kick up a stink. Besides the Rudy ship has sailed- thats why Walsh signed Mason Jr- he realised that if you locked yourself away and smoked crack continuously for 7 days, you'd still emerge with a more realistic view of players values than Portland.

Rudy is a 1 dimensional player. He's OK but Chandler is a much bigger piece of the team concept rotation.

BRIGGS wrote:I just wrote this on the Portland board

Knick fan here--I would never do this deal but it s funny to read how much people dont know about basketball

How many other wing guards in the nBA @ 22 years old shot 48% while putting up 15.3 5.5-2.1 with good defense?

His best overall game last year when he put up 24 points 17 rebounds and added 4 assists--+ had a 35 point game as well

That is like me saying I would not give up Toney Douglas for Batum

Ha ha- while what you said is spot on, you should still prepare yourself for their backlash! One of the reasons why I've been ranting the past couple of days about the Nuggets and the Blazers is because I made the terrible mistake of looking at those fans message boards for further information and rumours, and I still haven't recovered from the experience! Honestly, their stance on Rudy is the equivalant of Walsh insisting that he would only trade Marbury for another allstar back when D'Antoni took over as coach, on the basis that when we aquired him he was an allstar, and somehow the events over the following years and his attitude and his refusal to play for us make no difference- oh and in addition to another allstar we want a mid round draft pick- we won't accept a late one because we could just buy one of those.

Knixkik wrote:On paper this seems like a bad deal, but i don't think any of us know quite how to judge Fernandez yet. He's been buried on that team no question about it. He is a good shooter and athlete and seems to have a lot of potential. He might be the best SG on the market we could get, plus he's on a small contract for another year. If we get Melo, he's probably the best fit we could have at the SG position, along with Buike and Mason. Having a ton of shooters like this is the way it needs to be, and there will come a time where Chandler just won't be needed. The only reason i would be hesistant is i want to have Chandler available in a deal for Melo.

He is where I don't like that strategy--right now we have Gallo Azubukie Douglas and Walker--who alone will take a fair number of 3's--not counting anyone else. there comes a point where i say TOO MANY 3 pt shots taken to MUCH emphasis on long range shooting BALANCE Wil Chandler gives you the mid range the slash the D the mismatch at the 2. Emphasis on D is just as important as O.

how many 2G shot 48% last year?

nyvector16 wrote:There is only 1 Reason on EARTH to trade Wilson Chandler. It is to have cap relief next year, instead of resigning him.
His cap hold I believe is 200% of this year's salary since he is a base year compensation (BYC) player.
His salaray this upcoming season is $2,130,481. So his cap hold is $4,260,962.
With Wilson's contract included our cap next year is about 42.5 Million (includes Turiaf 4.3m).
That is with Amare getting 17 and Felton getting 8. Their salaries are not yet released.

With a cap of 57m that would leave us with 14.5 in cap space.

If we pick up options on Rautins, Fields, Mozgov, & Mason. Along with our 1st rd pick next year. We do not have the cap space for Carmelo in this scenario.

The cap flexibility for Carmelo will really be the tricky part in all this.
In my opinion, we have to get rid of Turiaf and we are in Business.

I want to play --and i want to win. I don't want to over focus on fa anymore. I think we have a good club here. What we have learned from last years fa is we can remove cap AFTER the season is over if need be--the only criteria they should be thinking about now is win baby win--what can we do to enhance the team now on the bench?

BRIGGS wrote:

nyvector16 wrote:There is only 1 Reason on EARTH to trade Wilson Chandler. It is to have cap relief next year, instead of resigning him.
His cap hold I believe is 200% of this year's salary since he is a base year compensation (BYC) player.
His salaray this upcoming season is $2,130,481. So his cap hold is $4,260,962.
With Wilson's contract included our cap next year is about 42.5 Million (includes Turiaf 4.3m).
That is with Amare getting 17 and Felton getting 8. Their salaries are not yet released.

With a cap of 57m that would leave us with 14.5 in cap space.

If we pick up options on Rautins, Fields, Mozgov, & Mason. Along with our 1st rd pick next year. We do not have the cap space for Carmelo in this scenario.

The cap flexibility for Carmelo will really be the tricky part in all this.
In my opinion, we have to get rid of Turiaf and we are in Business.

I want to play --and i want to win. I don't want to over focus on fa anymore. I think we have a good club here. What we have learned from last years fa is we can remove cap AFTER the season is over if need be--the only criteria they should be thinking about now is win baby win--what can we do to enhance the team now on the bench?

lol, i feel you. All the rumors and bad talking just too much :)