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knicks1248
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8/16/2010  12:32 PM
Are you kidding me, there aren't that many true centers in the league, if david lee can play the position at 6 9" for 2 seasons, I think AR can play it r occasionally, and like i have been saying..i see him using AR like he did JJ, guarding all 5 positions.

This league is so strap for solid centers,that the USA olympic team is going to battle with TYSON Chandler as the lone center.

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8/16/2010  12:32 PM
Anthony Randolph should fill Jared's old role....Jared is rail thin as well. Randolph's handle, jumpshot and finishing ability is way better imho. D'antoni will play the kid if he's under control and producing. I personally like to have his energy/change of pace come off the bench. He could spell all 3 front court spots. At the end of te night he should still see 30+ minutes
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8/16/2010  12:42 PM
misterearl wrote:Let's see the girly-man Lakers match up with:

G - 6'10 Randolph

G - 6'8 Mayor

F - 6'10 Gallo

F - 6'10 STAT

C - 7'1 most interesting Knicks player in the world

Go big or go home

I love it:)

RIP Crushalot😞
Marv
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8/16/2010  12:44 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
misterearl wrote:Let's see the girly-man Lakers match up with:

G - 6'10 Randolph

G - 6'8 Mayor

F - 6'10 Gallo

F - 6'10 STAT

C - 7'1 most interesting Knicks player in the world

Go big or go home

I love it:)

you guys are kidding i hope. this team wins 30 games.

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8/16/2010  12:48 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Are you kidding me, there aren't that many true centers in the league, if david lee can play the position at 6 9" for 2 seasons, I think AR can play it r occasionally, and like i have been saying..i see him using AR like he did JJ, guarding all 5 positions.

This league is so strap for solid centers,that the USA olympic team is going to battle with TYSON Chandler as the lone center.

Agreed. Definitely an upgrade over Lee (Defense & Offense). Plus not many true centers in the league. Lastly, HE IS 6' 11"! LOL

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Panos
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8/16/2010  12:54 PM
Marv wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
misterearl wrote:Let's see the girly-man Lakers match up with:

G - 6'10 Randolph

G - 6'8 Mayor

F - 6'10 Gallo

F - 6'10 STAT

C - 7'1 most interesting Knicks player in the world

Go big or go home

I love it:)

you guys are kidding i hope. this team wins 30 games.


Marv, the voice of reason.

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8/16/2010  1:12 PM
EnySpree wrote:Anthony Randolph should fill Jared's old role....Jared is rail thin as well. Randolph's handle, jumpshot and finishing ability is way better imho. D'antoni will play the kid if he's under control and producing. I personally like to have his energy/change of pace come off the bench. He could spell all 3 front court spots. At the end of te night he should still see 30+ minutes

Jeffries is older than Randolph and probably a good 10-15 lbs heavier. Both make a big difference. I think Randolph will eventually develop into a guy you can play at center. I just disagree with talks of starting him at center now. I think all you would accomplish is getting AR hurt.

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8/16/2010  1:34 PM
I agree with most though Randolph is not physically mature enough yet to take the regular pounding down low..
But then who is? PF would be his natural position for now?

I want to see all the rotation players in the 30-35 minute range on average. Less toll on their bodies. 82 games is
a long season...last year was nothing for Lee to go 40+ on back-to-backs. Too much wear.

Hopefully Turiaf and Mozgov/JJ can take the brunt of the 5. Or miracle of miracles Curry.

Celtics and Lakers as an example. I recall no time last year when there 'C' played 40+ on back to backs.

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8/16/2010  1:54 PM
If AR can start and play a good chunk of minutes at C then this team fits together a lot better- AR, Amar'e and Gallo are the starting front court, Turiaf as back up C, then you can then have Chandler as 6th man, getting most of his mins as back up PF and SF, which frees up SG for Azubuike, Walker and Mason Jr to fight it out- at least that way you'll always have a 3pt shooting threat at SG. This also allows AR to be a starter, which I think will be important to him, especially when his contract is up. If he can't play C, then it screws things up- we'd have a hole at C, AR would have to be a bench player, getting his mins at SF and PF, which means Chandler would have to start at SG to get his mins (reducing 3pt shooting on the starting unit), which then creates a logjam at SG of Azubuike, Walker and Mason Jr all fighting it out just to be back up. I don't think AR would put up with being a bench player in the long term so we'd then have to chose between him and Gallo. So basically there are a lot more problems.

Are they really that many bulky C's starting for teams these days? (my mind has gone blank, and I don't have time to calculate!) Certainly Boston, Orlando and the Lakers, but with a lot of teams it's not really a problem- eg Miami, Chicago, Atlanta etc etc.

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8/16/2010  2:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/16/2010  3:18 PM
I got a question to ask everybody -- why can't Amar'e play the 5?

Consider the lineup Phoenix went with against the Spurs in the 2005 playoffs..The Spurs took that series over the Suns 4-1 but Amar'e was an ABSOLUTE BEAST on the interior in every game against league MVP Tim Duncan..Now all of a sudden he can't play 5 anymore? It's somehow out of the question now??? Come on.. Look at the box scores from those games:

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=250522021
http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=250524021
http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=250528024
http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=250530024
http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=250601021

Dude not only held his own that series as the sole interior presence, HE WAS DOWNRIGHT FILTHY!!!! He just ripped it up! San Antonio had no answer for him. Phoenix went down that series but it had nothing to do with Amar'e's play, that's for sure..Amar'e was the main guy down low basically in that Phoenix attack, along with 3 guards and a SF. And he was PRODUCTIVE AS HELL!! Now we have this guy..I could definitely see Amar'e as the man in the middle for us, flanked by AR (in the Marion do-it-all F role) and Gallo (in the Q-Rich outside threat F role)...Why not? Did Amar'e not respond well in the past with this role? Yes he did..Here's the proof that he did..That team won 62 games that year in the regular season with Amar'e in the middle (along with another 9 playoff wins = 71 wins total that year). I'm not saying we're gonna come out this year and win 71 total games but what we can do is use a very similar player alignment -- a similar philosophy. In the frontcourt anyway...Remember, same coach back then in PHX as he has now in NY..Amar'e 5, Randolph 4/3 and Gallinari 3/stretch 4 would be my guess for a starting frontline as of right now.

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8/16/2010  3:10 PM
Marv wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
misterearl wrote:Let's see the girly-man Lakers match up with:

G - 6'10 Randolph

G - 6'8 Mayor

F - 6'10 Gallo

F - 6'10 STAT

C - 7'1 most interesting Knicks player in the world

Go big or go home

I love it:)

you guys are kidding i hope. this team wins 30 games by Christmas

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"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
Marv
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8/16/2010  3:11 PM
fishmike wrote:
Marv wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
misterearl wrote:Let's see the girly-man Lakers match up with:

G - 6'10 Randolph

G - 6'8 Mayor

F - 6'10 Gallo

F - 6'10 STAT

C - 7'1 most interesting Knicks player in the world

Go big or go home

I love it:)

you guys are kidding i hope. this team wins 30 games by Christmas

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good god it's the wingspan boys. get a room.

fishmike
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8/16/2010  3:21 PM
I think AR is bigger than JJ skinny. I was looking at vids and AR has put on some good weight in his 2 years in the league. He's gone from a Taysaun Prince type build to something closer to Camby which is good.

AR has talent.. its up coach to figure out where the guy plays. I dont care if he's the starting SG, so long as he's playing and playing well.

MDA doesnt play the 5 conventional positions. He plays a PG and 4 other guys.

If I know half of what I think I know about this sport the Knicks will be a good team next year.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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8/16/2010  3:26 PM
fishmike wrote:
Marv wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
misterearl wrote:Let's see the girly-man Lakers match up with:

G - 6'10 Randolph

G - 6'8 Mayor

F - 6'10 Gallo

F - 6'10 STAT

C - 7'1 most interesting Knicks player in the world

Go big or go home

I love it:)

you guys are kidding i hope. this team wins 30 games by Christmas

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actually thats johnwallace... but since you mentioned it I looked it up and AR goes for a 7'3 wingspan. My god we are winning the title next year :)
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
Marv
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8/16/2010  3:27 PM
fishmike wrote:I think AR is bigger than JJ skinny. I was looking at vids and AR has put on some good weight in his 2 years in the league. He's gone from a Taysaun Prince type build to something closer to Camby which is good.

AR has talent.. its up coach to figure out where the guy plays. I dont care if he's the starting SG, so long as he's playing and playing well.

MDA doesnt play the 5 conventional positions. He plays a PG and 4 other guys.

If I know half of what I think I know about this sport the Knicks will be a good team next year.

that's what i'm concerned about *cough* eddy's good for 15/5/55 BOOK it *cough*

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8/16/2010  3:29 PM
Marv wrote:
fishmike wrote:I think AR is bigger than JJ skinny. I was looking at vids and AR has put on some good weight in his 2 years in the league. He's gone from a Taysaun Prince type build to something closer to Camby which is good.

AR has talent.. its up coach to figure out where the guy plays. I dont care if he's the starting SG, so long as he's playing and playing well.

MDA doesnt play the 5 conventional positions. He plays a PG and 4 other guys.

If I know half of what I think I know about this sport the Knicks will be a good team next year.

that's what i'm concerned about *cough* eddy's good for 15/5/55 BOOK it *cough*


Don't get him started...

Panos
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8/16/2010  3:30 PM
I think JJ Mosgov and Turiaf should race down 33rd Street.
Winner is the backup center.
Marv
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8/16/2010  3:33 PM
Panos wrote:I think JJ Mosgov and Turiaf should race down 33rd Street.
Winner survivor is the backup center.

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8/16/2010  3:47 PM
Marv wrote:
misterearl wrote:"I've got 99 problems but a chick is kicking me, spitting in my face, swinging at me, trying to scratch my eyes out ain't one"

Anthony Randolph can play four positions.

Center ain't one of them.

u're gonna put him in the backcourt

marv, i believe mda suggested this after the trade was made.

given the ball handling skills he has for his size.

Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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8/16/2010  3:49 PM
PresIke wrote:
Marv wrote:
misterearl wrote:"I've got 99 problems but a chick is kicking me, spitting in my face, swinging at me, trying to scratch my eyes out ain't one"

Anthony Randolph can play four positions.

Center ain't one of them.

u're gonna put him in the backcourt

marv, i believe mda suggested this after the trade was made.

given the ball handling skills he has for his size.


Not without a 3-point shot, he won't.

Randolph will start @ C--

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