amare is the rabbi.

Marv wrote:Give me lebron baby. All day everyday and twIce on sunday.

What the hell i put up with you guys what's one more douchebag in my life?

Not good for my self-esteem.

I might just have to take my posting to South Beach.

TMS wrote:
if Lebron would have manned up to the challenge of playing in NY, there's no way i wouldn't have preferred that over what we have now, but i'm not upset he didn't choose us after how he revealed himself this summer... i want guys that aren't afraid to step up & take on that leadership mantle... Lebron is free to have his fun on South Beach, that's his right, but the way he handled himself w/this whole situation was disappointing.

Yup- it really comes down to the fact that we learned more about his character than we had known previously, and what we learned was not too complimentary or even honorable.

He also could have manned up and played in New Jersey, and become a modern day Moses by leading them to Brooklyn; gone to Chicago and taken on the challenge of playing against the legacy of a true BB legend; or stayed with the Cavs for at least 3 more years and become loved by Cleveland fans and respected by everyone else as he attempted to achieve the quest of bringing a first title to his home town.

Instead, as we have all discussed, he takes the easy path, and then allows himself to be put into that rather embarrassing Vegas situation by his loser friends.

It was a defining moment that will always follow him, and one that will always tarnish the image that he so carefully created. Add to this the fact that his BB camp is now a way for his agency to have influence over future stars in way that others agents or agencies cannot compete with, and you have the making of a true slimebag legacy.

sidsanders wrote:winning is a cure all... kobe was waaaay down after his... problems. gets some titles as the lead guy, and he certainly has made some gains. reggie jackson was not a great guy and sure had his run ins with his own coaches and team. do yankee fans hate him?

i would find it hard to believe most wouldnt be happy as heck if lbj signed and this team went on to win a title (or more than 1). if mike is the coach and the current knicks (maybe with a few additions) win a title, will there be any folks still mad about his early years in ny?

i don't think your Reggie example fits, he already had 3 rings before he came to NY... he was already a proven winner... the reason Yankee fans had a problem w/him initially was over his "I'm the straw that stirs the drink" comment that sorta dissed Thurmon Munson, the captain of the team & a very popular Yankee... but like all winners, he eventually won the Yankee fans over w/his gregarious personality & penchant for coming up huge in big games... Reggie was made for NY... Lebron obviously wasn't.

Gymkata wrote:Truthfully, when The Decision was announced I began to almost hope that he WOULDN'T choose MSG. The content of his character really started to come into focus during that cluster-F. I'm not upset that he bypassed NY. The reason I think he's an insufferable dick is what he did to Cleveland. It takes a special kind of a-hole to humiliate a long-suffering Rust Belt city on national TV. And that, primarily, is why I will take much joy in every loss the Heat endures.

So after humiliating the long suffering Rust Belt city and at the end of the show he said he was taking his talents to broadway, you mean to tell me you wouldn't root for the Knicks an longer?

Content of his character? Are you serious? This is sports. I root for the players in the blue and orange for 2 hrs a night. I could care less what they do with the other 22. Thats the problem with the multi media of today, its all tabloid and too concerned with eveything but the game any longer. Did you have a problem with the content of Sprewells character after he joined the Knicks? How about Ewing, who after games would frequent strip clubs and humiliate his family?

Gymkata wrote:Of course I'd still pull for the Knicks if LeBron came. But my respect for LeBron would have dipped significantly, just as it did when Ewing's shenanigans were revealed. And just as my respect for Amare increased with his classy letter to Phoenix and his enthusiasm to be with the Knicks. It's not a zero-sum game.

that was a standard pr move to me... i kinda agree on the not worrying too much about what these guys do off court. as long as it isnt ridiculous/illegal. there are limits to it, thats up to how much each fan can take. charles was right, they arent role models. they mess up like anyone else. when they win, it heals lots of wounds, and can allow for forgiveness long after the winning has stopped and more probs start (doc/straw for example).

EwingsGlass wrote:

We have explained the salary cap numerous times in numerous threads. Do you know how the Heat are consistently signing Veteran Free Agents, even though they are capped out? You could fill the roster with the Veteran's exemption, like the Heat have done.

I know about signing vets for the minimum doesn't count against the cap- but what I meant was that the reason the Heat got their players so easily is because they look much more likely to win a championship than we would have with just Lebron and Stat- I don't think some of the players that signed with Miami would have done so with the Knicks. Also the heat got helped out by the fact that Bosh, Lebron and Wade signed for less, so they had room to sign Mike Miller- again, it's unlikely we would of had the space sign him like that. It would have been trickier for us to have filled out the roster, I think.

SupremeCommander wrote:there's something appealing about watching a young, promising come up together and learn to play with one another... there is definite appeal to this team. But it's easy to say that now and I certainly would've taken the Queen and his Chambermaids

EXACTLY. I like lebron the talent, and would have wanted him here, no doubt. As you said, after the fact this team does have a definite appeal to it. I like seeing a young group grow up together and win. Knowing what I know now about lebron makes him less appealing, especially with all of his cronies hanging on, but I would have taken the queen had he signed here...