BRIGGS wrote:

rvwink wrote:"Man, Shannon Brown for $4-5M?? Wow..Sylven Landesberg was the guy to add for SG depth."

Donnie Walsh put out a clue a couple of weeks ago when someone asked him if he was done adding players this year. Actually, he said, our quality at shooting guard could still be improved. I definitely don't think that he is adding "SG depth" with Shannon Brown. Instead, I think he believes the great fit between Shannon Brown's talents, and the way the Knicks want to play, makes him an excellent candidate to start for the Knicks at shooting guard. The advantage of adding Brown, is that it frees up the Knick's ability to trade Chandler either now or down the road.

How do you feel about trading Wilson, misterearl and others?

I would have to get a significant deal back that made sense. I think WC really fits in with what we have and you would be sacrificing his 6-8+225 frame and length at SG which gives him a mismatch on nightly basis for a guy who has not been proven as a starter in the nBA. That makes a big team smaller and I would think a step back from what I believed we could be.

I agree that we have to get value back to trade Wilson. Let's speculate a little. Maybe Donnie already has a deal worked out - either for Wilson or Azubuike, which will make sense if Brown agrees to become a Knick. Maybe that deal will free up enough money to enable us to pay Brown an average of $4-5 million per year over 5 years.

With another max contract taking up cap space, Chandler doesn't give me the right signals that he is the guy to keep long term. Also, instead of selling him for next to nothing at the last minute, this year, we should be able to get more value for trading Wilson Chandler, then when everyone knows we need to dump him.

July 11th, NY Post

"According to a person familiar with the Knicks' thinking, the club will explore trading Wilson Chandler, possibly packaging him with the expiring contract of Eddy Curry. The Knicks would love to trade for a premier outside-shooting big man.

Chandler, who has had ankle surgery two straight offseasons, has a contract the Knicks likely will move to be enough under the 2011 salary cap for a maximum contract. The addition of versatile forward Anthony Randolph and swingman Kelenna Azubuike makes Chandler more expendable for a roster lacking size. The Knicks don't believe Chandler can handle shooting-guard duties."

Bonn1997 wrote:

iSergio wrote:We have exactly $3,043,279M left.

Then this is what a 5 year contract works out to be
3.043279M
3.28674132M
3.549680626M
3.833655076M
4.140347482M

Total: 17.9M, average = $3.6M (not far at all from "roughly 4 mil")

And if the Lakers are williing to work a sign and trade, the Knicks can send them Rautins, and a future #2 pick.
Including Rautins frees up an additional 500k. So Brown's first yr price would be 3.5 and about 3.8 in year 2.

It would only need to be a 3 yr deal to work out to nearly 4mil per year on average.

Solace wrote:Hmm, I'm not convinced this is possible, but if it is, I have to ask what we are doing. We were totally in play for Carmelo next season. Now we're filling up with contracts that will prevent us from getting him. I like running with a young team, but at the time, the cap space is something we have absolutely not had before, and to just give it up is a bit disturbing. I hope that this is a sign that Chris Paul is coming in Dec, because otherwise, I don't really understand this move. Giving Shannon Brown anything more than 2 years is unjustified, IMHO.

If we could sign and trade him for a playmaking guard... that's really what we need is someone else besides Felton who can create a shot for themselves.

EnySpree wrote:Good convo guys....

Wilson Chandler has already been replaced by Gallo as the starting 3...He's not playing power fwd with Amare here...Even though he had a horrible summer league, Walker proved enough last season and but losing the weight that he is ready to be in the rotation at 2 guard. Fields is there also...Azubuike is coming off major surgery, but hes a better shooting guard than Chandler, period.

So that's without Shannon Brown...Signing Shannon Brown opens up the posibility of trading Chandler and others for a "jumpshooting big man"....

Yeah so why is anybody even complaining about losing Chandler? All the bases are covered....if anything the Knicks need more of an option at center.

iSergio wrote:We have exactly $3,043,279M left.

How are you arriving at this number?

CrushAlot wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Good convo guys....

Wilson Chandler has already been replaced by Gallo as the starting 3...He's not playing power fwd with Amare here...Even though he had a horrible summer league, Walker proved enough last season and but losing the weight that he is ready to be in the rotation at 2 guard. Fields is there also...Azubuike is coming off major surgery, but hes a better shooting guard than Chandler, period.

So that's without Shannon Brown...Signing Shannon Brown opens up the posibility of trading Chandler and others for a "jumpshooting big man"....

Yeah so why is anybody even complaining about losing Chandler? All the bases are covered....if anything the Knicks need more of an option at center.

Wilson is better than all of the guys mentioned to replace him and he is still very young. I am hoping that the lineup on the floor that gets the most minutes has Acare at the 5 with Gallo and Chandler playing the 3 and 4. I think between Azubuike, Douglas and possibly Brown the Knicks would be fine at the two. I think Felton is going to play a ton of minutes next year.

It doesn't matter if Wilson Chandler is better than those mentioned....keep in mind if he's traded he's being traded for someone that's gonna help the team....that's why I put Okurs pic in there...its funny cuz Curry makes more than Okur so that idea would have to include another player if Wilson is gonna be included. Still if you could trade Wilson and Curry for Okur and a filler...the Knicks got way better. Just an example.

Bippity10 wrote:On Knicks night, Alan Hahn said this was a rumor. The Knicks are talking to Brown but no offer has been made. Either way someone is blatantly wrong or is lying to us. This happens100 times a day in the media. Why do do many still believe everything they read or hear

Its not about believing its about discussion.....wouldn't be a message board without it