TheGame wrote:

Vmart wrote:Rautins for Rudy and that is it. We might be giving up to much in this deal too. Rudy isn't that good.

LOL. Rudy has not fallen off that much. He still has the potential to be a solid player. I would consider a Walker for Rudy swap. I however would not give up Chandler for him. Chandler is a much better player.

Yup.

Trade Walker, and let Rudy battle for time with Chandler and Azubuike. He can also play a bit of PG.

I don't think he would be happy with his playing time here either. He has almost averaged 25 MPG with Portland- does he expect to get over 30 MPG with the Knicks?

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Im scared that Dolan does not like Chandler and he has the execution notice on his head. I consider Chandler a Joe Johnson type hog from the Suns circa 2005--if they change that for Rudy F I will drop us down to 45--that will be a HUGE step back a big loss

do you really thing Dolan has that type of influence with a player like Chandler?

MDA, staff and Donnie have gone out of there way to praise this kid.

Do I think a guy who owns the team has influence?

BRIGGS wrote:

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Im scared that Dolan does not like Chandler and he has the execution notice on his head. I consider Chandler a Joe Johnson type hog from the Suns circa 2005--if they change that for Rudy F I will drop us down to 45--that will be a HUGE step back a big loss

do you really thing Dolan has that type of influence with a player like Chandler?

MDA, staff and Donnie have gone out of there way to praise this kid.

Do I think a guy who owns the team has influence?

no. Do you really think Dolan does not like Chandler and has an execution notice on his head? Without a drop or hint of that EVER being heard of?

I mean, you just made that up.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=3204

He did what thet ask of him with out complaining until now, same went for AR in Golden State.
His FG% is low because 70% of his attemps were from DT, look at the stats. To top it off, he only avg roughly 19 mins pg..and he plays with Roy.

AZ is coming off a serious INJURY, Walker is SUSPECT, TD is to small to play SG, and chandler, is suited for SF/PF. I would still prefer the knicks to aquire a VETEREN considering how young this team is, but Rudy is a solid shooter, and this offense needs plenty of those, so I don't see the issue.

BRIGGS wrote:Im scared that Dolan does not like Chandler and he has the execution notice on his head. I consider Chandler a Joe Johnson type hog from the Suns circa 2005--if they change that for Rudy F I will drop us down to 45--that will be a HUGE step back a big loss

CrushAlot wrote:I agree with the comparison to Johnson. I really didn't want the Knicks to commit the max to Johnson or Gay because they already have Chandler and I think he could be that type of player. I don't know why Chandler is always brought up in trade scenarios and his talent and youth are disregarded. I hope he isn't moved for anyone. I think moving him for Fernandez would be a huge mistake.

I would not trade him for Rudy, straight up, though.

Paladin55 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I agree with the comparison to Johnson. I really didn't want the Knicks to commit the max to Johnson or Gay because they already have Chandler and I think he could be that type of player. I don't know why Chandler is always brought up in trade scenarios and his talent and youth are disregarded. I hope he isn't moved for anyone. I think moving him for Fernandez would be a huge mistake.

That is exactly the reason he is considered- he has value as a player in the eyes of the Knicks, just not enough to make him untouchable if the right deal comes up.

I would not trade him for Rudy, straight up, though.

If they threw in Babbitt and bayless I would do it.

Paladin55 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I agree with the comparison to Johnson. I really didn't want the Knicks to commit the max to Johnson or Gay because they already have Chandler and I think he could be that type of player. I don't know why Chandler is always brought up in trade scenarios and his talent and youth are disregarded. I hope he isn't moved for anyone. I think moving him for Fernandez would be a huge mistake.

That is exactly the reason he is considered- he has value as a player in the eyes of the Knicks, just not enough to make him untouchable if the right deal comes up.

I would not trade him for Rudy, straight up, though.

If they threw in Babbitt and bayless I would do it.

Hell, the Blazer fans would storm their offices and put Pritchard back in place if they gave us that much for Chandler.

I would only trade Chandler if I was getting a deal that brought back a significant value., This is a 23 year old athletic 6-8 225 G/F who avg 15-5 48%. I know he had an infraction+ some minor injuries but so has half of the NBA.

I'll do Walker because we get rid of some very real knee concerns.

Chandler is nothing special to me but he is much more proven than Rudy.

Come to think of it, I would do Rudy and a first for Chandler.

GustavBahler wrote:I really could care less if Chandler got traded, I don't care about the weed. He's
shown that he has the skills to be something special but he doesn't seem that committed
to taking his game to the next level. He also can't manage to stay healthy for very long.
Just hope we can get something decent in return.

He's had injury problems, but I think it's ridiculous to say that "he doesn't seem committed to taking his game to the next level", from what we know about him, he's hard working and liked by the coaching staff. He seems to be solely interested in basketball and improving. Last year he was recovering from surgery so he couldn't work on improving any bits of his game, and when the season began he was still suffering from pain in his ankle and got off to a slow start. However as the season went along you could clearly see him improving and changing his game- at the start of the year people complained that he was taking too many 3s, and he stopped that and started taking it inside more. By Dec or January he was looking really good and much improved, however he then got hit by a variety of injuries that led to his decline. If he can just stay healthy this year, then you'll see a big improvement from him, I think. His work ethic and attitude are ideal, in my opinion.