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Rashad McCants article......Great read.
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martin
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7/28/2010  11:33 AM
joec32033 wrote:
martin wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
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joec32033 wrote:Sorry about the lack of format guys. Posted that from my cell. Martin or Andrew, maybe you could edit for ease of reading?

Anyway...this kid has now become one of my favorite players. I know since MikeD was quoted in this article it won't happen, but I would love to see this kid get a shot with the Knicks.

Oh, and F**k Randy Whitman.

instead of posting article from your cell, perhaps just post link and let others help you?

Sure. Tell me who has access to ESPN insider and I will. Ask for a little help and I get my ass handed to me. Thanks.

Last insider article I post.

dude, come on. All I was doing was asking you to post the link so that I or others could help you format the article. When you have posted unformatted articles before I have come across the same article and edited your post to make it better (without much of a word that I had even done so).

You are being a little sensitive here and not very appreciate of what I was really getting after. Ass handed to you? jeez man.

Do you really think I have time to edit a post that is like 5000 words long? really?

I can't ask you to post a link to the article so I dont have to go hunting it down?

damn man.

You have edited one post for me, the winners and losers of FA thread. All I did was ask politely. This thread isn't the place to talk about this. Email me if you want to discuss further.

dude, just post the link when you are posting an article, that's all. And dont think that you are getting your ass handed to you when if fact I was politely asking you to just post a link.

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7/28/2010  11:44 AM
VERY SAD. he comes off as a good kid who may be very quiet. I heard of the "attitude" problems before, but never really read of any player having negative things to say about him. Other than kevin love, most of his teamates liked him off and on the court..

Randy whitman is a douche and deserved to be fired.. that bum..

I hope Mccants finds a place in the NBA, the guy is loaded with talent... If not now sometime in the near future. I am suprised that no euro team has made him a good offer. he could easily go over there and become a big time player...

I wish him the best..

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7/28/2010  11:50 AM
Does anyone know why he didn't play for Cleveland's summer league team? McCants has a ton of talent but it appears that he has not been humbled to the point where he would correct the flaws in his ego/personality to be picked up by a team. There have been a lot of very troubled guys who have been given a chance with teams. This guy has a ton of talent. He hasn't had legal problems that I am aware. Something must be terribly wrong for no team to take a chance on him.
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7/28/2010  11:53 AM
Methinks Joe and Rashad are one and the same.
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7/28/2010  11:54 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Does anyone know why he didn't play for Cleveland's summer league team? McCants has a ton of talent but it appears that he has not been humbled to the point where he would correct the flaws in his ego/personality to be picked up by a team. There have been a lot of very troubled guys who have been given a chance with teams. This guy has a ton of talent. He hasn't had legal problems that I am aware. Something must be terribly wrong for no team to take a chance on him.

Think i read some place that his Mom was sick and he did let CLE know and they acknowledged the same.

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7/28/2010  11:56 AM
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Does anyone know why he didn't play for Cleveland's summer league team? McCants has a ton of talent but it appears that he has not been humbled to the point where he would correct the flaws in his ego/personality to be picked up by a team. There have been a lot of very troubled guys who have been given a chance with teams. This guy has a ton of talent. He hasn't had legal problems that I am aware. Something must be terribly wrong for no team to take a chance on him.

Think i read some place that his Mom was sick and he did let CLE know and they acknowledged the same.

Thanks. I asked that question before and I don't think anyone knew the answer.
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7/28/2010  12:02 PM
Andrew wrote:Methinks Joe and Rashad are one and the same.

One point to "the other mod".

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7/28/2010  12:03 PM
iSergio wrote:Rashad McCants seems like a moody *******. No thank you. It's these type of players we need to stay away from. Character does count, you know?

In some cases, it's become more important then a players talent and skills. Like the article stated in so man words, chemistry starts in the locker room and finishes on the court. people get fired all the time for there lousy attitudes, no one likes anyone who is anal, or a moody SOB. Thats why there so many single chics now

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7/28/2010  12:05 PM
NBA coaches are very sensitive about control of their team and they don't like malcontents! Some coaches are tougher than others but still it's not a good thing to constantly give off an air of attitude. I've fired talented guys like that before. My clients have enough attitude already and what I need are Engineers that don't fan the flames of an egotistical Artist.

We know MDA is the last coach that would touch a player like this, but trust me you'll appreciate things just being about BB for a change.

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7/28/2010  12:19 PM
joec32033 wrote:
Andrew wrote:Methinks Joe and Rashad are one and the same.

One point to "the other mod".

damn joe is spittin fire at you guys today.

geez, imagine if you asked cooch not to post the article like that.. this board might be turned upsidedown.

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7/28/2010  12:31 PM
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Does anyone know why he didn't play for Cleveland's summer league team? McCants has a ton of talent but it appears that he has not been humbled to the point where he would correct the flaws in his ego/personality to be picked up by a team. There have been a lot of very troubled guys who have been given a chance with teams. This guy has a ton of talent. He hasn't had legal problems that I am aware. Something must be terribly wrong for no team to take a chance on him.

Think i read some place that his Mom was sick and he did let CLE know and they acknowledged the same.

Did a Google news search - read his mom had cancer and he was taking care of her.

Whether that is an excuse or not- don't know.

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7/30/2010  10:40 AM
I think he has a hard time doing his due diligence when managing multiple priorities. So while it may have been legit that he had to deal with something related to his mother's illness, all that was required was for him to make a quick phone call either directly to the Cavs organization or to his agent to pass on the message.

As far as he was concerned he probably made the right decision "ie take care of family first"... but in the business world, not doing what you've said you're going to do is not good.

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7/30/2010  10:51 AM
technomaster wrote:I think he has a hard time doing his due diligence when managing multiple priorities. So while it may have been legit that he had to deal with something related to his mother's illness, all that was required was for him to make a quick phone call either directly to the Cavs organization or to his agent to pass on the message.

As far as he was concerned he probably made the right decision "ie take care of family first"... but in the business world, not doing what you've said you're going to do is not good.

insofar as I know, that's exactly what he did and what the Cavs said he did.

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7/30/2010  11:05 AM
There is a lot more to McCants then was in this article. As talented as he is, to be blackballed like this I can guarantee there are 10000 more stories that we don't know about. The biggest problem is that he is being told the same thing by a number of people and his take is that he is not in the league "because he doesn't smile". He still doesn't get it.

I had a friend like this. We used to all hang out with him, go to the clubs etc. He was a hot head and everytime we went out he would get into a fight. We tried to explain to him that we no longer wanted to be getting into trouble and wanted to get away from all that fighting. He continued to do it so we started blowing him off. After a few years we stopped hanging out with him entirely. I saw him years later(still a hot head) and he held a major grudge against us. His take was that we stopped hanging out with him because "he liked to drink and have fun". Some guys never get it.

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7/30/2010  11:10 AM
^^^ I was hard on him for the SL thing earlier, but if his mom is going through a C crisis, and he let the Cavs know what was going on, he is doing the right thing.

Had to go through this with my family twice, so I know what it is like, and what he might be going through.

Does not excuse him for past lapses in judgment, though.

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7/30/2010  1:16 PM
Good read....McCants is just victim of the nba fraternity. There are tons of nba talent that get pushed away for no good reason. "Attitude" is a cop out cuz you can run with it. Having to see a psych? Come on....the nba blacklist people all the time and we've talked about that here tons of times.

McCants has to grow a pair and go out there and play somewhere. He's good enough to make millions in Europe. He's gotta link with clubs that have nba ties. Period...he's gotta acknowledge it and let it go. He's 25 now...in 3 seasons he'd be 28....that's a whole other list of labels he'd have to get over

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7/30/2010  3:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/30/2010  3:17 PM
EnySpree wrote:Good read....McCants is just victim of the nba fraternity. There are tons of nba talent that get pushed away for no good reason. "Attitude" is a cop out cuz you can run with it. Having to see a psych? Come on....the nba blacklist people all the time and we've talked about that here tons of times.

McCants had problems with Doherty in college(who also asked him to see a psychologist) and some issues with Roy Williams as well. Now NBA coaches and some of his teammates have said the same. At what point is the attitude problem real? What is the motivation for coaches and GM's to indiscriminately target and blackball talented players? What do they get out of it?

The reality is that he is faced with a real world situation with real world responses and no longer is being shielded by the fact that he is more talented then everyone else. In high school he could get away with it. Now he can't. In the real world if you fight with your 3 previous bosses and develop a reputation in your industry as a trouble maker people are not going to take a chance on you. You either have to move or try a differetn industry, or become so talented that no one can refuse you. Or start from the bottom again and rebuild your reputation. McCants is going through this right now. He's talented but not so talented that he gives people no choice. He has a reputation as a problem child and teams are hesitant to take a chance. He can either continue doing what he is doing and continue to be blackballed. Or change is attitude (guarantee there are a million more stories then what you read). Or become so talented he gives no other choice. If not, he wil always be walking around going "teams don't like me for no reason, they don't want to sign me because I don't smile". Poppycock!

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7/30/2010  3:19 PM
exACTLY. if mccants thinks he's out of the NBA because he "frowns too much" which is what the article indicates, then he clearly doesnt "get it" and probably won't be in the NBA any time soon. nobody is bigger than the game! man up, listen, play hard, and he can easily be making a few million bucks a year on an NBA team. if he can't do that, i have no sympathy for him. if pro sports has shown one thing, if you have the skills and can help a team win, it doesn't matter what you've done (strawberry and gooden with drugs, roethlisberger, mike vick, i mean there are hundreds of examples). but if you're going to be a whiney head case who can't be relied upon, (which seems to be the case with mccants), then teams aren't going to risk it.
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7/30/2010  3:24 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Good read....McCants is just victim of the nba fraternity. There are tons of nba talent that get pushed away for no good reason. "Attitude" is a cop out cuz you can run with it. Having to see a psych? Come on....the nba blacklist people all the time and we've talked about that here tons of times.

McCants had problems with Doherty in college(who also asked him to see a psychologist) and some issues with Roy Williams as well. Now NBA coaches and some of his teammates have said the same. At what point is the attitude problem real? What is the motivation for coaches and GM's to indiscriminately target and blackball talented players? What do they get out of it?

The reality is that he is faced with a real world situation with real world responses and no longer is being shielded by the fact that he is more talented then everyone else. In high school he could get away with it. Now he can't. In the real world if you fight with your 3 previous bosses and develop a reputation in your industry as a trouble maker people are not going to take a chance on you. You either have to move or try a differetn industry, or become so talented that no one can refuse you. Or start from the bottom again and rebuild your reputation. McCants is going through this right now. He's talented but not so talented that he gives people no choice. He has a reputation as a problem child and teams are hesitant to take a chance. He can either continue doing what he is doing and continue to be blackballed. Or change is attitude (guarantee there are a million more stories then what you read). Or become so talented he gives no other choice. If not, he wil always be walking around going "teams don't like me for no reason, they don't want to sign me because I don't smile". Poppycock!

couldn't have said it better myself bip.

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7/30/2010  3:34 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Good read....McCants is just victim of the nba fraternity. There are tons of nba talent that get pushed away for no good reason. "Attitude" is a cop out cuz you can run with it. Having to see a psych? Come on....the nba blacklist people all the time and we've talked about that here tons of times.

McCants had problems with Doherty in college(who also asked him to see a psychologist) and some issues with Roy Williams as well. Now NBA coaches and some of his teammates have said the same. At what point is the attitude problem real? What is the motivation for coaches and GM's to indiscriminately target and blackball talented players? What do they get out of it?

The reality is that he is faced with a real world situation with real world responses and no longer is being shielded by the fact that he is more talented then everyone else. In high school he could get away with it. Now he can't. In the real world if you fight with your 3 previous bosses and develop a reputation in your industry as a trouble maker people are not going to take a chance on you. You either have to move or try a differetn industry, or become so talented that no one can refuse you. Or start from the bottom again and rebuild your reputation. McCants is going through this right now. He's talented but not so talented that he gives people no choice. He has a reputation as a problem child and teams are hesitant to take a chance. He can either continue doing what he is doing and continue to be blackballed. Or change is attitude (guarantee there are a million more stories then what you read). Or become so talented he gives no other choice. If not, he wil always be walking around going "teams don't like me for no reason, they don't want to sign me because I don't smile". Poppycock!

couldn't have said it better myself bip.

No one could have

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