loweyecue wrote:

nixluva wrote:I don't find what he said disturbing. He feels that he can do a lot of things on the court and really I AGREE!!! What Nellie was probably seeing was a kid that still needed to develop his shot and other aspects of his game and so he wanted him to limit what he was doing to the things he was already good at. But really think about it, do you prefer a kid that's chomping at the bit to do more and wants to take on more responsibility or a kid that isn't giving you all the energy and effort you think he should? There's nothing wrong with wanting to do more, just when you get that chance you've got to make it work.

He says his shot is better and his game overall has more going so i'm anxious to see what he's gonna be able to do here. AR and Gallo are set to have breakout seasons now that we have Amar'e and Felton. Felton won't freeze these kids out and Amar'e will draw attention and also be a role model for these guys in playing dominant ball.

I DISAGREE. I am worried about this guy turning out to be a selfish player. I don't care how skilled you are, you get paid to do a job and the coach decides your role. So go out there and do the job you get paid to do. Of course I hope he has a breakout season and blends in great, but I think this guy is quite immature and there is a lot of "me" in that interview.

I don't see Ar as s elfish player and I watched him a lot. He is a great help defender he is a hustle player and I want to emphasize that I think he WILL turn into a GREAT mid range jump shooter. So here is a guy who can defend rebound who can take the ball end to end at 6-11 who has strong finishing ability--a guy who can be a solid passer just like Gallo should be and will have all sorts of room while other teams contend with the spacing GALL from deep and Amare in the middle will provide. GS never had a post presence like Amare and lets judge Randolph as a fresh start @ 21 from day 1 with the Knicks.

newyorknewyork wrote:

playa2 wrote:
Playa's Definition or Interpretation of the term "COMMUNITY PICK"

Obviously we have two different interpretations of the term "COMMUNITY PICK" on Ultimate Knicks

(Grabs Mic) When it comes to NBA basketball where the predominate player is African American, a "Community Pick" would be a white player that's usually over hyped or taken sooner than expected in the draft whether he's American or International player, but he looks predominately like the PAID AUDIENCE that watches NBA games in the Arena's.

The media usually gives him a pass on draft night if he's known in college or overseas to do one thing well if that. It's usually a reach pick to go after him, but the hype kind of gives fans a very optimistic point of view.

That my friends is my definition and point of view of a community pick (Drops Mic)

Anthony Randolph doesn't fit the criteria

I have a question though. What if that pick can actually play and play well. Is he still considered a community pick or does his skill level automatically get overrode by his skin color?

exactly, that's why the whole community thing is pretty stupid.

misterearl wrote:Randolph is a locker room cancer and a sefish player only interested in his own stats. The interview is an indication of how poorly constructed the roster is

sheesh

Donnie Walsh acquires a 21 year old 6'11 talent with nothing but training camp ahead of him Nd the best we can do is parse each word of every one of hie responses?

I need a vacation

yah, I need a beer and gonna go get one

Paladin55 wrote:

martin wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

playa2 wrote:
Playa's Definition or Interpretation of the term "COMMUNITY PICK"

Obviously we have two different interpretations of the term "COMMUNITY PICK" on Ultimate Knicks

(Grabs Mic) When it comes to NBA basketball where the predominate player is African American, a "Community Pick" would be a white player that's usually over hyped or taken sooner than expected in the draft whether he's American or International player, but he looks predominately like the PAID AUDIENCE that watches NBA games in the Arena's.

The media usually gives him a pass on draft night if he's known in college or overseas to do one thing well if that. It's usually a reach pick to go after him, but the hype kind of gives fans a very optimistic point of view.

That my friends is my definition and point of view of a community pick (Drops Mic)

Anthony Randolph doesn't fit the criteria

I have a question though. What if that pick can actually play and play well. Is he still considered a community pick or does his skill level automatically get overrode by his skin color?

exactly, that's why the whole community thing is pretty stupid.

Hate to speak up for Playa, but the "community pick" definition also includes a provision for players who can "play and play well.":

"In the regular course of a player's career, within 2-3 years of being drafted, if a player, previously designated to be a community pick, plays above and beyond the level of play generally ascribed to a community pick, to whit he shows that he can play the game and play it well, by contributjng to his team's success in a variety of ways commensurate to the position he was drafted in, the designation of community pick shall heretofore be recinded, and the player in question shall be deemed a "good pick."

don't over think it, it's plain dumb.

martin wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

martin wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

playa2 wrote:
Playa's Definition or Interpretation of the term "COMMUNITY PICK"

Obviously we have two different interpretations of the term "COMMUNITY PICK" on Ultimate Knicks

(Grabs Mic) When it comes to NBA basketball where the predominate player is African American, a "Community Pick" would be a white player that's usually over hyped or taken sooner than expected in the draft whether he's American or International player, but he looks predominately like the PAID AUDIENCE that watches NBA games in the Arena's.

The media usually gives him a pass on draft night if he's known in college or overseas to do one thing well if that. It's usually a reach pick to go after him, but the hype kind of gives fans a very optimistic point of view.

That my friends is my definition and point of view of a community pick (Drops Mic)

Anthony Randolph doesn't fit the criteria

I have a question though. What if that pick can actually play and play well. Is he still considered a community pick or does his skill level automatically get overrode by his skin color?

exactly, that's why the whole community thing is pretty stupid.

Hate to speak up for Playa, but the "community pick" definition also includes a provision for players who can "play and play well.":

"In the regular course of a player's career, within 2-3 years of being drafted, if a player, previously designated to be a community pick, plays above and beyond the level of play generally ascribed to a community pick, to whit he shows that he can play the game and play it well, by contributjng to his team's success in a variety of ways commensurate to the position he was drafted in, the designation of community pick shall heretofore be recinded, and the player in question shall be deemed a "good pick."

don't over think it, it's plain dumb.

what's stupid about it is that it's just assuming a player sucks because of the skin color - guilty until proven innocent so to say. basically it's no different than racism.

martin wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

martin wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

martin wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

playa2 wrote:
Playa's Definition or Interpretation of the term "COMMUNITY PICK"

Obviously we have two different interpretations of the term "COMMUNITY PICK" on Ultimate Knicks

(Grabs Mic) When it comes to NBA basketball where the predominate player is African American, a "Community Pick" would be a white player that's usually over hyped or taken sooner than expected in the draft whether he's American or International player, but he looks predominately like the PAID AUDIENCE that watches NBA games in the Arena's.

The media usually gives him a pass on draft night if he's known in college or overseas to do one thing well if that. It's usually a reach pick to go after him, but the hype kind of gives fans a very optimistic point of view.

That my friends is my definition and point of view of a community pick (Drops Mic)

Anthony Randolph doesn't fit the criteria

I have a question though. What if that pick can actually play and play well. Is he still considered a community pick or does his skill level automatically get overrode by his skin color?

exactly, that's why the whole community thing is pretty stupid.

Hate to speak up for Playa, but the "community pick" definition also includes a provision for players who can "play and play well.":

"In the regular course of a player's career, within 2-3 years of being drafted, if a player, previously designated to be a community pick, plays above and beyond the level of play generally ascribed to a community pick, to whit he shows that he can play the game and play it well, by contributjng to his team's success in a variety of ways commensurate to the position he was drafted in, the designation of community pick shall heretofore be recinded, and the player in question shall be deemed a "good pick."

don't over think it, it's plain dumb.

what's stupid about it is that it's just assuming a player sucks because of the skin color - guilty until proven innocent so to say. basically it's no different than racism.

exactly. We are talking about a GM who picked Reggie Miller over Steve freakin Alfred while GM at Indiana.

And who has plenty of experience and the record to back it up as GM.

I've used stupid and dumb. I'll add ignorant.

Playa put down the mic that no one wanted you to pick and and put it away permanently. Please.

when are you going to pull the plug on the mic in the WTC thread

SupremeCommander wrote:

martin wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

martin wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

martin wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

playa2 wrote:
Playa's Definition or Interpretation of the term "COMMUNITY PICK"

Obviously we have two different interpretations of the term "COMMUNITY PICK" on Ultimate Knicks

(Grabs Mic) When it comes to NBA basketball where the predominate player is African American, a "Community Pick" would be a white player that's usually over hyped or taken sooner than expected in the draft whether he's American or International player, but he looks predominately like the PAID AUDIENCE that watches NBA games in the Arena's.

The media usually gives him a pass on draft night if he's known in college or overseas to do one thing well if that. It's usually a reach pick to go after him, but the hype kind of gives fans a very optimistic point of view.

That my friends is my definition and point of view of a community pick (Drops Mic)

Anthony Randolph doesn't fit the criteria

I have a question though. What if that pick can actually play and play well. Is he still considered a community pick or does his skill level automatically get overrode by his skin color?

exactly, that's why the whole community thing is pretty stupid.

Hate to speak up for Playa, but the "community pick" definition also includes a provision for players who can "play and play well.":

"In the regular course of a player's career, within 2-3 years of being drafted, if a player, previously designated to be a community pick, plays above and beyond the level of play generally ascribed to a community pick, to whit he shows that he can play the game and play it well, by contributjng to his team's success in a variety of ways commensurate to the position he was drafted in, the designation of community pick shall heretofore be recinded, and the player in question shall be deemed a "good pick."

don't over think it, it's plain dumb.

what's stupid about it is that it's just assuming a player sucks because of the skin color - guilty until proven innocent so to say. basically it's no different than racism.

exactly. We are talking about a GM who picked Reggie Miller over Steve freakin Alfred while GM at Indiana.

And who has plenty of experience and the record to back it up as GM.

I've used stupid and dumb. I'll add ignorant.

Playa put down the mic that no one wanted you to pick and and put it away permanently. Please.

when are you going to pull the plug on the mic in the WTC thread

everyone can be as factually inaccurate as they want in the OT forum.

nyk4ever wrote:

what's stupid about it is that it's just assuming a player sucks because of the skin color - guilty until proven innocent so to say. basically it's no different than racism.

It is no different than racism because it is racism, but it is a certain individual's racism, and not something that can be objectively defined.

Vmart wrote:It is very disturbing when a young player speaks his mind. For some reason he think he is going to be given free reign. You can pretty much figure out why he was in Nellie's dog house. Randolph seems like a guy that wants to do his thing with blatant disregard for team concept.

I think we must have read a different interview, I don't think he came across that way at all.

I think the thing with AR, that might rub people up the wrong way is that whenever he makes an impressive move or shows skill, he looks genuinely delighted with himself- I don't know, it's just unusual to see a player essentially going "wow! did you see what I just did!". He seems to love the fact that he has a great handle and can move and play like a guard, and really wants to show that off and use it. Personally, I just see it as youthful enthusiasm, and I think over time he'll mature and overcome it (I don't think it's a big deal), and I think if he has those skills, which I think he does, then they should be encouraged and developed and honed instead of forbidden because "big men shouldn't do that"- I think he can master those skills and become a really special player.

Of course it's a double edged sword because if he tries those fancy moves that big men don't usually do, and makes a mistake then he looks like an idiot, and that's why he gets the "low basketball iq" label. I think that was essentially what the fued with Don Nelson was, and I hope D'Antoni doesn't take the same approach as he did- it would be a disaster. That's my main worry.

I liked the interview- I liked hearing his enthusiasm at playing in New York- he comes across as being without fear (which you can see in his game), I like that he's improved his shot- if he can master that, he can become deadly. I think he's smarter than people think, and he sounds like a hard worker. It's a real shame Portland re-signed Camby to such a big deal before he became a free agent- he would of been the perfect mentor for AR, and could really have solidified our front court while AR develops. However, I think Amar'e will do a good job supporting him and keeping him heading in the right direction.