sidsanders wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Gallinari will average 22 6-3 Randolph 16-9-3-3 Chandler 17-6-5 this year and you will forget about Chris Paul

if they improve that much, would anonthy in 2011 matter?

Nope--I do believe we have the horses. I think Gallinari will take the role of 22-24 pt scorer and got to guy--don't need 2. That will be a problem in Miami

win win for everyone!!

BRIGGS wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Gallinari will average 22 6-3 Randolph 16-9-3-3 Chandler 17-6-5 this year and you will forget about Chris Paul

if they improve that much, would anonthy in 2011 matter?

Nope--I do believe we have the horses. I think Gallinari will take the role of 22-24 pt scorer and got to guy--don't need 2. That will be a problem in Miami

if you believe that then you should be all for trading for CP3 now if we can somehow hold onto Gallinari in the process... CP3 & Amare running the P&R with Gallo on the wing is ideal for MDA's system... then you plug in a shotblocker like Okafor to rebound & defend the lane & contribute his 10 points a night, along with Mozgov to back him up, Felton backing up CP3 & possibly Walker or Fields at the 2 taking over Wilson's role, & you have a very nicely balanced roster... so what that we'd lose the cap space to sign Melo next summer? if Gallo's going to be that good then there's no need to think about Melo anyway... & keeping Felton means we'd have insurance in case CP3's knee gives out over the next 2 seasons.

let's be honest here, if Anthony Randolph's name was out of the equation, would you be so adamantly against the idea of trading for CP3? i know you think AR is going to be a superstar, that's your right to be high on any prospect, but if the trade was Gallo, Wilson, TD, Turiaf, Bukke & Curry's expirings, & GS's 2nd rounders for CP3 & Okafor, would you do it?

C - Okafor
PF - Amare
SF - Gallo or AR
SG - Walker
PG - CP3
6 - Felton
7 - Mozgov
8 - Fields

you honestly don't think that roster trumps what we have right now?

sidsanders wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:In 2011 Curry & Bookey come off the books Chandler has a qualifying offer.

That gives us the money to sign Melo in 2011. In 2012, Gallo, Randolph have qualifying offers, Felton has a team option, Douglas has a team option, Mozgov has a TO, Turiaf comes off the books.

If Amare is making 20mil, Melo is making 18mil and the salary cap is 55mil, that leaves the knicks with 17mil to sign Paul to the same contract as Melo and Amare.

So yes its possible to sign Melo and CP3 in 11 and 12 just not likely.

that means we let all the young guys folks dont want to trade walk for little to nothing to get this done by 2012. thats what tms is asking, why are some opposed to trading them now if we let them walk in 2 years.

Well we wouldn't need to take on Okafor's contract. By that time we would know what we have in Gallo and Randolph. We could all ways look to trade Randolph and Gallo for draft picks rather then let them walk for nothing.

If we got Melo in 2011 and Paul was still on the Hornets, that would make Gallo expendable for other assets like draft picks. With Melo and Amare it would be a lock for Paul to sign with the Knicks as a free agent if he was still with the Hornets. That gives us the room that season to evaluate what to do with Randolph.

If Randolph is able to play center and developed his game he may be a keeper over Paul, who by that time we will also know how his knees are holding up. Or Randolph may just become a role player and we can dump him for a pick at the trade deadline or something in 2012.

Better yet if you sign Melo in 2011, then you package Felton and Gallo for Paul. Paul can demand that he is leaving for NY as a free agent. Hornets will be scared to lose him for nothing, done deal.

umynot wrote:

TMS wrote:

umynot wrote: Then Melo is easily attainable with Curry Uzzubuke Chandler Douglas

please take the advice i offered to eViL earlier.

Just talking money wise TMS not talent nor value of course

But think about it if you add this years pick ( regardles if it ours or houstons) and 2012

its way more value then losing him.......But finically it works thanks to currys 12 mil

let's get this straight, we are not getting Carmelo Anthony for that package... that's like saying we could steal CP3 away from the Hornets this summer for a bag of magic beans, 2 second rounders & some cap space... it ain't gonna happen... players like CP3 & Carmelo Anthony are going to require some real assets to obtain in a trade, unless of course they sign w/us as free agents, in which case like i said before we will have to let our young players like Wilson & Gallo walk anyway because we won't be able to afford to keep them.

btw, we can't include this year's pick in any trade deals until AFTER we make the pick... we can trade the player's draft rights, but can't trade the pick because our pick in 2012 is already forfeit & teams aren't allowed to trade 1st round picks in consecutive seasons... so the earliest pick we could offer any team in a trade now would be our 2014... sorry, but that isn't going to entice anyone.

TMS wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Gallinari will average 22 6-3 Randolph 16-9-3-3 Chandler 17-6-5 this year and you will forget about Chris Paul

if they improve that much, would anonthy in 2011 matter?

Nope--I do believe we have the horses. I think Gallinari will take the role of 22-24 pt scorer and got to guy--don't need 2. That will be a problem in Miami

if you believe that then you should be all for trading for CP3 now if we can somehow hold onto Gallinari in the process... CP3 & Amare running the P&R with Gallo on the wing is ideal for MDA's system... then you plug in a shotblocker like Okafor to rebound & defend the lane & contribute his 10 points a night, along with Mozgov to back him up, Felton backing up CP3 & possibly Walker or Fields at the 2 taking over Wilson's role, & you have a very nicely balanced roster... so what that we'd lose the cap space to sign Melo next summer? if Gallo's going to be that good then there's no need to think about Melo anyway... & keeping Felton means we'd have insurance in case CP3's knee gives out over the next 2 seasons.

let's be honest here, if Anthony Randolph's name was out of the equation, would you be so adamantly against the idea of trading for CP3? i know you think AR is going to be a superstar, that's your right to be high on any prospect, but if the trade was Gallo, Wilson, TD, Turiaf, Bukke & Curry's expirings, & GS's 2nd rounders for CP3 & Okafor, would you do it?

C - Okafor
PF - Amare
SF - Gallo or AR
SG - Walker
PG - CP3
6 - Felton
7 - Mozgov
8 - Fields

you honestly don't think that roster trumps what we have right now?

Number 1 you're in fantasy land concerning the position of NO and what they will actually take for Paul--there would only be one offer for Paul which would include taking Oh4 and getting rid of Gallo Chandler and Ar which IMO is nuts.

Either way, no need to get tense on an improbable trade. Suffice it to say that it is good that players of Chris Paul's caliber want to be NY Knicks. That is all that needs to be said on this matter.