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Bonn1997
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7/24/2010  6:46 PM
foosballnick wrote:Olbrannon - your link says they removed a "PORTION" not the entire meniscus. That is what I typed above and is how Orthopods REPAIR a mensiscus tear. They cut the tear part out and reshape the remaining meniscal cartilidge, they shave the associated bone if there are rough edges to help prevent longer term arthritis. The knee can be braced during activities such as running, playing sports etc, although this is not necessary, it is most likely advised for an NBA player to help prevent further damage.

Not only have I had the surgery, my brother in law is an orthopedic surgeon and I confirmed this with him. This is consistent with other links I have read such as http://www.nba.com/hornets/news/chris_paul_has_successful_surg_2010_02_04.html. This is a common surgery ...people in this thread are blowing this way out of proportion....sheesh.


As the Hornets prepare to play their 19th consecutive game without him - and the 27th overall this season - Paul remains sidelined as a result of Feb. 4 arthroscopic surgery to remove the torn portion of the meniscus cartilage in his left knee, a convalescence originally termed to last four to six weeks.

That's a bit more reassuring but I still would give up no more than AR
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7/24/2010  7:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/24/2010  7:10 PM
foosballnick wrote:Ummmmm....am I missing something? Yes I used the term Repair several times. In athroscopic surgery ....REPAIR = CUT OUT A PORTION. Is that so hard for you to understand? Do you continue to believe that his entire Meniscus was removed? Are you that thick? Even though several people on this thread have stated that they've had the surgery? Even though your own Link uses the term PORTION?

As the Hornets prepare to play their 19th consecutive game without him - and the 27th overall this season - Paul remains sidelined as a result of Feb. 4 arthroscopic surgery to remove the torn portion of the meniscus cartilage in his left knee, a convalescence originally termed to last four to six weeks.

Here's another link that uses http://REPAIR..http://www.nba.com/hornets/news/chris_paul_has_successful_surg_2010_02_04.html

How bout this one on "Mensical Repair" for Paul
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4888073

If you want - you can read up on Meniscal REPAIR here.
http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/meniscusinjuries1/a/meniscusrepair.htm

But I guess you don't need to since you know more then everyone on the entire planet.

You sir are the one who is obtuse. I at no time in any of the above posts said they removed the entire
meniscus. In several posts I said how much was removed is not pointed out. It is usual in the case of minor removals for the athlete to return very soon.

The implication is that the tissue removed was significant since he has taken so long to return.
nothing more. Get a grip

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7/24/2010  7:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/24/2010  7:39 PM
7. Chris Paul
My least favorite trend of the No Benjamins Association era: teams twisting the truth about potentially serious injuries so they don't hurt ticket sales, or because they know the media won't challenge their stories and call them out afterward. After seeing Boston string Celtics fans along with KG's bum knee and the Clippers legitimately lie about Blake Griffin's knee injury, when I heard the Hornets claim CP3 would miss only "four to six weeks" after "minor" knee surgery, my BS Detector started beeping. Especially since we learned that doctors removed Paul's torn meniscus ligament rather than repairing it.


Intrigued, I asked Will Carroll (the injury expert for Baseball Prospectus and Basketball Prospectus) for his thoughts. Will pointed me toward a piece he wrote about meniscus removal a few years ago. The key section: "One reason teams are so quick to allow this surgery is that the players come back so quickly, usually in a matter of weeks. But … surgeons don't repair the meniscus in most cases; they just take it out, either in part or in whole depending on the size of the tearing. That leaves the athlete with no shock. Eventually, with the remaining meniscus overstressed and aging, they end up with the bones grinding together. Yes, that's as bad as it sounds in a game of running and jumping."

(Hold on, we have to wait for the Hornets fans to clear out that puke from their mouths. Waiting … waiting … OK, we're good.)
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7/24/2010  7:46 PM
Olbrannon wrote:
foosballnick wrote:Ummmmm....am I missing something? Yes I used the term Repair several times. In athroscopic surgery ....REPAIR = CUT OUT A PORTION. Is that so hard for you to understand? Do you continue to believe that his entire Meniscus was removed? Are you that thick? Even though several people on this thread have stated that they've had the surgery? Even though your own Link uses the term PORTION?

As the Hornets prepare to play their 19th consecutive game without him - and the 27th overall this season - Paul remains sidelined as a result of Feb. 4 arthroscopic surgery to remove the torn portion of the meniscus cartilage in his left knee, a convalescence originally termed to last four to six weeks.

Here's another link that uses http://REPAIR..http://www.nba.com/hornets/news/chris_paul_has_successful_surg_2010_02_04.html

How bout this one on "Mensical Repair" for Paul
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4888073

If you want - you can read up on Meniscal REPAIR here.
http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/meniscusinjuries1/a/meniscusrepair.htm

But I guess you don't need to since you know more then everyone on the entire planet.

You sir are the one who is obtuse. I at no time in any of the above posts said they removed the entire
meniscus. In several posts I said how much was removed is not pointed out. It is usual in the case of minor removals for the athlete to return very soon.

The implication is that the tissue removed was significant since he has taken so long to return.
nothing more. Get a grip


I have read reports that its was a partial removal and the entire removal of the meniscus. However, Will Carrol from Baseball Prospectus addresses the long term implications of a partial removal in the portion of the Bill Simmons article I just posted.
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7/24/2010  7:54 PM
This question regarding whether the doctors removed the whole meniscus or only part is a very important question which bears on whether we should trade for the player and who we should be willing to give up for him. So far, I haven't seen a definitive answer to it. It shouldn't be hard for the media to track down, but so far they haven't done it.
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7/24/2010  8:02 PM
There are two meniscuses in each knee. I too have been confused in believing that one was removed entirely. Now after reading this thread I am not sure that is the case. The bone on bone stuff is a possibility but teh otehr meniscus is still intact and does provide at least half the usual functionality in terms of shock absorption. I also think they transplant tissue from other joints to the knee when doing this type of surgery and that tissue can grow with time to provide additional relief. The only thin we fans can say with certainty is WE DON'T KNOW the exact details of what happened in that surgery.
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7/24/2010  9:16 PM
In a typical meniscus tear they do 1 of 2 things - 1) repair the damage or 2) snip off the frayed edge so it doesn't irritate the joint. They did the latter. Whether an athlete or a layman, they simply wouldn't remove it altogether.
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